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I have had GAD for many years, since a child. I am a senior now. Yes, I have tried everything. For a while I did lead a normal life while taking paxil then it quit and I am daily battly anxiety at some point. What I would like to know is: does anyone wake each morning with horrible nausea (no vomiting) and a feeling of pressure in their stomach. It is horrible. I have tried gravol and Gavascon, flat gingerale, prescription from dr. that they give to those taking chemo and are nauseated....no help. Now I am scared....I keep over thinking that maybe I have stomach cancer or a stomach tumor. Our family dr. does not take anxiety seriously and suggests nothing. I am afraid to go to other health appointments in case I throw up or faint. I try to keep my mind busy on the 333 game and other things but I cannot get relief. I feel so scared and hopeless. Does anyone else have this. Thank you.

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b1b1b1 profile image
b1b1b1

If Paxil helped you, you might want to try another anti-depressant. There are a number to choose from, including some new ones. Lexapro seems to help some people I know. Discuss this with your psychiatrist.

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kama24 in reply tob1b1b1

Ontario has a huge shortage of drs. My psychiatrist retired 2 yrs ago, no more in town. I do take Luvox but it literally does nothing, also take 2mg ativan every day. Thank you for replying.

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SouthernSally

I also suggest a psychiatrist. They of course take it seriously. I've done two sessions in person when required by my psychiatrist's licensing board and otherwise do online visits every six weeks. She'd allow me to spread them out more but I like the regularity. She doesn't analyze or do therapy. She just wants to know how I'm feeling and which meds are helping. I take Alprazolam (Xanax) which helps with relaxing the system to sleep. If I wake up with anxiety it's mostly in my chest. I also have been taking bupropion (Wellbutrin) for years. I'm 65.Please get checked out. I have a chronic pain issue and wish a doctor would find something seriously wrong so it could be removed or treated. Have you had a colonoscopy or a stomach x-ray? A gastroenterologist would see to that. Also if you haven't heard of Dr Claire Weeks process for treating anxiety (she passed a few decades ago but still has a tremendous following) I recommend reading Hope and Help for your Nerves or checking out videos on YT.

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kama24 in reply toSouthernSally

I had Wellbutrin and so many others back before the nausea hit. Nothing helped. I have a pinched nerve in my hip and go to see a specialist in Sept. The other pain clinic is a 2 yr wait. I had a colonoscopy, endoscopy and stomach xray many yrs ago This nausea has just started about 5 mon. ago. I have a big fear of drs. and tests. Yes I have the book by Dr. Claire Weeks. I read it twice. The medical service here is in a real mess. Thousands have no family dr. I just don't understand why I feel so sick the last 5 months when I never had that symptom before. Thank you for replying

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b1b1b1 in reply tokama24

Even though you have a fear of doctors and tests, it is important that you do try to rule out any physical problem. Only after that should you focus on psychological issues that may be causing nausea.

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kama24 in reply tob1b1b1

you are right.....and I will try.

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SouthernSally

Strange question but have you been eating a lot less? I go through periods of nausea sometimes related to lack of calories. There's an over the counter tablet here on the shelves near Tums, etc. It's called Nauzene. I find it very helpful although I have to warn you it's a chewable and tastes awful. So you have to get past that. You can get it on Amazon.

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kama24 in reply toSouthernSally

Yes I have sure reduced what I eat due to the nausea. I will look for Nauzene at the drugstore and check Amazon out. Tums have never helped me. Thank you for replying.

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SouthernSally in reply tokama24

You're welcome! Two more things that help with nausea. I know this because I used to get very car sick often. Peppermints and vanilla ice cream. A little dixie cup of Haagen-daz vanilla did the trick. And peppermint tic tacs. Since you don't eat enough try the ice cream in the morning.

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kama24 in reply toSouthernSally

good idea, will try it.

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Formula1fan

I have gone through bouts of that myself and it is awful. The savior for me was a drug you dissolve under your tongue called ZOFRAN. Being a chronic pain patient I have to take a lot of oral meds. I got nausea so bad I couldn't keep anything done, including my meds. The more I kept throwing up my meds and my pain level was rising so wwould the anxiety, it was a vicious cycle. I went through all the testing and would recommend you do the same to be safe, my GP said everything was fine except my ability to control my anxiety and to work with my specialist. My stomach would be like a Rollercoaster going in and out of that nausea but the Zofran worked like a miracle, and it works fast.

I hope you find a solution.

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kama24 in reply toFormula1fan

Thank you. Yes I was given Zofran, I called it a Communion Wafer....no help ...so many tell me its my anxiety causing the nausea...it may be. I've had GAD for many many years, the nausea for about 5 months. Thank you for replying to me.

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kama24

thank you, I do like eggs

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Formula1fan

oh I am sorry the Zofran did not work for you. I know this may sound like a wives tale but I got this from my Doctor. Small sips of regular Coke can settle you stomach. Around the turn of the century, Coke syrup was sold through pharmacies for that reason...of course that was still when it contained cocaine so it may have worked better then. I hope you feel better soon.

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kama24 in reply toFormula1fan

thank you for your kindness.

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b1b1b1 in reply toFormula1fan

I have been told the same thing by my doctor. He says to pour it in a glass, let it go flat and warm up and then sip it.

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kama24 in reply tob1b1b1

My mom always had peppermints and flat gingerale beside her for nausea. Never really helped sadly

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NeuroSeeker

Just a thought, fo you take proton pump inhibitors (like omeprazole)? If so, it could be that your stomach is struggling to digest food.

Nausea and a feeling of fullness are two common symptoms of gastroparesis. It's not deadly, but it sure is a bummer og a condition.

I find DGL licorice helps with stomachache and nausea. Also, drinking warm water can help.

Good luck... nausea is a complete killjoy. Hard to be upbeat when your body keeps threatening to throw up!

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NeuroSeeker

Oh - and if cannabis is legal where you are, that is also helpful for many nausea sufferers.

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kama24 in reply toNeuroSeeker

Yes it is legal in Ontario. I was on CBD capsules for a year then dr put me on THC capsules 10 mg....no help

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NeuroSeeker in reply tokama24

I'm not pushing weed... but I am curious- did you use actual cannabis products or did they have you take a pharmaceutical version of cannabis?

I wouldn't trust pharma THC or CBD, at least not here in the US. Canada may be more evolved in this regard.

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kama24 in reply toNeuroSeeker

It was in capsule form issued by a MD. I know the real stuff is very different. I had a couple of friends try it but their reaction was rather frightening. I have never smoked in my life nor want to. It would have to be edibles I guess but I worry about how they would Make me feel. I think I'd panic

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NeuroSeeker in reply tokama24

It's a possibility. If you choose to try and you're nervous, having a friend with you for a first try is an idea.

Edibles are much easier to dose than flower. For me, they tend to target the body more than flower does. An edible is what I use when I'm having an anxiety day. It helps.

You can cut gummies into small pieces and start small. Avoid sativas, as they are more likely to activate anxiety. Indicas are typically more sedating.

Anyway, I wish you well. Anxiety is a crappy condition, and all those stress hormones can mess with your body, mind, and spirit in so many ways!

PS- I live in an area with a severe doctor shortage as well. It's very difficult being a patient at this point in time, sadly. We have to do a lot of the work ourselves, which is very taxing. Keep asking for ideas and do what you think is right for your well-being! ❤️

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kama24 in reply toNeuroSeeker

Thank you for your advice. About 5 yrs ago I went to a local clinic where a MD would prescribe both CBD and THC capsules (10 mg) I took both for a few yrs but not one bit of help I have had 2 friends suggest going to a real cannibus store (it is sold leagally in Ontario) Frankly I am scared to try it. A friend of mine who had cancer tried an edible and had a frightening experience. You know what it is like to be in a doctor lacking city then! ER here is unreal if you have to go for something non urgent, at minimum a 6 to 9 hr wait. With my anxiety lately I feel so nauseated and breathless. No one really understands unless they have "been there done that". I will consider your advice though. Thank you.

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NeuroSeeker in reply tokama24

Interestingly, I was in the ER last Thursday. I'd been unable to hold down liquids for over 18 hours, was puking stomach acid and crapping my brains out.

I was at the ER for 7 hours. I finally got a saline drip after 24 hours of no fluids.

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kama24 in reply toNeuroSeeker

A 7 hr wait sounds like Ontario. After Covid our medical help just fell to pieces. There is nothing worse than non stop nauseau. I hope you are ok now.

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NeuroSeeker in reply tokama24

I'm coming along!

Dixie9326 profile image
Dixie9326

You really NEED to get retested. I know how difficult that is ! But you need to face your fears if you ever want to feel good again… pick up the phone and call a gastroenterologist . That is the only way you’ll be able to find peace. If there is indeed something wrong, they can treat it. I know exactly how you feel, I do the same thing addressing what I need to do but take the bull by the horns now and please call..😘😘😘

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FlamingoSiren

when I was suffering with GAD, the mornings were the absolute worst. And like you, I tried stopping my meds but it was a no-go for me. I’m 55. I have to accept the fact that I will probably be on meds the rest of my life. I take lexapro and it’s a godsend.

You need to get beyond your primary and have your stomach checked out. It may very well bring you peace of mind. My gut says it’s the GAD but I’m not a physician.

Best wishes. My heart goes out to you.

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kama24 in reply toFlamingoSiren

I never used to have this nausea issue, I am so scared it is something serious and will be my end, My family dr is not very understanding frankly I do not care for him at all but I have the thought I am going to die in my mind and life is terrible for me. I know I have to do something soon. Thank you for replying

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NeuroSeeker in reply tokama24

Nausea accompanied my GAD from way back in childhood... before I'd ever heard of anxiety!

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kama24 in reply toNeuroSeeker

I never started with the nausea until about 5 yrs ago. Childhood was fear.....First psychiatist I saw was wonderful...sadly he passed away, Second one did not want to talk just write a prescription

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Dixie9326 in reply tokama24

I am older too and I’m always terrified that my symptoms will lead to the end for me. You do need to find the courage to call a gastroenterologist (making the phone call is the hardest for me but it’s a relief after I do even though I’m still afraid). My life is the same when I have unusual symptoms that I’m terrified of…I’m a retired Emergency Department RN and my background knowledge can sometimes be a curse..I imagine the worse but so far they have been unfounded. I wish there was more I could do and say to help…you know what you have to do! Let us know, we care:(😘

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kama24 in reply toDixie9326

Thank you for replying. I find it so strange that the fear and nausea is when I wake in the am. if I get up in the middle of the night it is not there. My family is all telling me its just anxiety....I do have a LOT of that. Oh to be normal again. I will give it another month then ask family dr. his suggestion, however he really doesn't seem to care much. Yes Dixie its fear my symptoms will lead to the end for me too.

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NeuroSeeker in reply tokama24

"Just anxiety" is a stupid thing to tell someone. Anyone with anxiety knows "just" doesn't apply. It hijacks everything.

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b1b1b1 in reply tokama24

If you know you have to do something, then actually put it on your calendar and try to do it. I think it will make you feel better, even though it is very scary. It is sad to go on worrying when there is a solution.

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kama24 in reply tob1b1b1

you are right. I woke at 3:30am with nausea then pressure in the gut and shaking. I will eventually have to ask if there is something other than OTC meds for nausea

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b1b1b1 in reply tokama24

"Eventually" is not the best word to use when there is a health issue you are worrying about. A better thought would be "tomorrow" I will take action and make an appointment with a gastroenterologist. This would be worthwhile even if you have to see a doctor privately and pay for the appointment. If you cannot afford this perhaps you should go to an emergency room and be very honest about your problems and lack of help and really insist on a plan to resolve the issues.

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kama24 in reply tob1b1b1

I agree with you....Im going to have to go and ask about something for the nausea. We don't have private medical care in Ontario ER is usually a 9 hr wait to see a dr. I know I'm going to have to do something soon

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b1b1b1 in reply tokama24

It is not that you need " something for the nausea. " The issue is that you need tests to find out what is causing the nausea. The sooner you get the tests, the more relaxed you will be, and if there is any cause it can be treated.

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kama24 in reply tob1b1b1

you are absolutley right. It take about 2 wks to get an appointment. I'm going to see how I am tomorrow and if not good will call

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Always-frozen

Hi, yes, did that for a year. If you can, bypass your GP and see a gastroenterologist. Faint and/or throw up, whatever it takes to get there, because you are only compounding it with the stress of worry. Get a trusted friend to go with you and get it out of the way. Medical clearance, chamomile tea and acupuncture is the only thing that finally helped me.

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kama24 in reply toAlways-frozen

Here in Ontario there is no way you can even find a new family dr. and 9 hr waits in ER Yes I've had acupuncture. Still going to physio for pinched nerve and no help. Specialist in Sept. out of tow Thanks for your suggestions.

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TaliaTalia5

I have something similar. I wake up in fear. Leads to panic. Feel it in my throat. I have a physical throat problem. Helps if I lay down, breathe. But I waste a lot of time in bed in the morning. Usually take clonazepam but try not too. Sometimes it is too difficult to swallow the pill. I suck on losenges.

I have diagnosis of gad and panic

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kama24 in reply toTaliaTalia5

I so understand what it must be like for you. Throat issues can be frightening. Have you ever tried ativan sublingual? it is soooo tiny and you just put it under your tongue and it melts. I take the 2mg one but it does come in 1 mg. When I think of all the meds I've tried and here I am still living in fear. I too have GAD and panic. I did have some years where I was normal, taking paxil, then it stopped helping and here I am fearing ea day. I truly hope things will get better for you. Thank you for sharing.

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CaptainAnxiety

I don't know how it works in Ontario, but if a psychiatrist could help with your anxiety and in-person is a struggle, there is betterhelp. I know that they can aid in prescribing medication and are actual licensed doctors. I couldn’t even imagine not being able to get in with one struggling like you mentioned. I believe it might help you while you wait, at least the anxiety portion of your struggle. Praying for you!

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CaptainAnxiety in reply toCaptainAnxiety

Just to clarify, I 100% believe you should be going through a psychiatrist to help you on your mental health journey. There is not compareing family doctors to psychiatrists, they're specialized in there feild and can help you far better.

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kama24 in reply toCaptainAnxiety

I did go to a psychiatrists for many years then he passed away. After a long wait I got another one. He retired after about 4 yrs. There are absolutely none available or taking on new patients. According to a recent study commissioned by the Ontario College of Physicians, 2.3 million Ontarians are currently without a family doctor. If you need to go to ER there is usually about a 6 to 9 hr wait to see a dr. Psychiatrist here no longer "talk" to the patient and try to help them verbally they only prescribe medication. It is truly a mess. I do talk to a therapist bi weekly (they cannot prescribe). She is very caring and has suggested so many things to try like meditation, journals, tapping, deep breathing, etc etc but NOTHING has helped. My family, I know is rather tired of hearing me complain but I just need someone to make me feel Im not alone. I've tried acupuncture, cupping, naturopaths, you name it. I just cannot shake this daily fear, fear of death is constant (we have lost numerous relatives in the last few years and several of my close friends). I just feel hopeless. I do appreciate that you took the time to reply. Thank you.

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NeuroSeeker in reply tokama24

Fear of death is a regular topic with my therapist. A few yearsy ago my mom and little brother died of heart failure, 11 months apart. Mom was a sudden shock to me (she hid how sick she was), and then I had my brother with me for his last 7 weeks. I have the same condition- it runs in the family, with a gene mutation in an inconvenient place in our DNA! Watching them both die (I saw mom as she died on an ER table, long story, she was already gone) triggered a massive fear of dying like they did.

Mom died almost 4 years ago, and I still cry a few times a week. I'm terrified of dying like they did. For me, my therapist, dukoxetine,

Cannabis, and the occasional clonazapam are what keep the worst at bay - but I still spend a few days a month under the blankets.

Anxiety, depression, GRIEF... they are difficult to work through. I've had to be more aggressive about my health (I have initial Dr appts the are scheduled sometimes 8 or 9 months out ... I have Dr appts scheduled into Nivember!). The wait to see them sucks, but having an appt and waiting is more proactive than not scheduling at all (this is what I tell my impatient, frustrated self).

Keep doing what you can do. Let ideas settle in your heart and let intuition guide you. It's easy to give up when you know that help is limited (and holy cow, do I understand! . I'm sending love and good vibes your way as you wander through a challenging situation with minimal support. Research ideas on the internet.

Also, I've found the guided meditations on Insight Timer to be really helpful. It's how I get to sleep.

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kama24 in reply toNeuroSeeker

I am so sorry for all your losses. Yesterday would of been my Mom;s 102 bd, I cried on and off all day. Dads 106 is coming up and I will cry again. I saw a lot of death and cemeteries as a 4 yr old, people laid out in their living rooms....told they were just sleeping, then to the cemetery and being placed in the grave "sleeping" I was beside Dad when he passed, it was a horrible suffering death. I cry every night when I pray for them. My husband and I are midd 70s I am terrified I do not believe grief ever goes away. Lately I have heard of seveal medical mis diagnosis of my friends and they didn't make it. Most days seem so hopeless and few understand I will say a prayer for you.

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Beevee

Hi Kama24

Sorry to learn that you are having a tough time.

You said you've tried everything to get rid of your anxiety.

Have you ever considered not trying to do anything to get rid of your anxiety?

Anxiety is a paradox. The more you try and get better, the less you recover. When you stop trying to get better, the more you recover and be free from crippling anxiety.

Best wishes.

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kama24 in reply toBeevee

That is a thought...thank you. I have had it so many many years...tried every thing....any more I just go one day at a time.

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Beevee

If you want to understand more of what I mean, you might find some my posts on this forum useful. The theme is the same and all based on my recovery by changing my attitude towards anxiety and depression and learning to accept the thoughtsxand feelings instead of the constant battle to try and avoid, suppress or deliberately distract yourself from those thoughts and feelings. That is a battle you cannot win because you are fighting with yourself. For more reading, I recommend Dr Claire Weekes and a website called anxietynomore.co.uk. Ive [no affiliation with either other than they both pkayed a very impotant part in my recovery.

Knowledge about why you continue to suffer is important and these two sources provide that as well as explaining how and why acceptance works in overcoming anxiety. It doesn't matter how long you have suffered, recovery is waiting in the wings.

Best wishes! ❤️

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kama24 in reply toBeevee

I have bought and read Dr. Clair Weeks book....I will google the web site and look into it. Thank you. I am a senior citizen+ and worry is constant with me. I have lost so many friends and relatives.......thank you for trying to help me.

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SHEPHER

Yes I feel nausea evey morning on waking. I do take medication and my gp says it's the tablets that are causing it. The new one I started 4 weeks ago maybe the cause sobecause I get benefit from it my gp is keeping Mr on them for another 2 weeks and gave antisickness tablets which I'm afraid to take has loads of side effects

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kama24 in reply toSHEPHER

Gosh I hope you get some relief soon. I go to the dr. Monday and hope he can suggest something for the nausea...I've had the meds they give to people for nausea after chemo but no help. Everyone says they believed the nausea is coming from my constant anxiety. Im taking meds for a pinched nerve too. Nothing helps.

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SHEPHER in reply tokama24

Try 10 mg for the pinched nerve that's what I have Ana it does help

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kama24 in reply toSHEPHER

thank you for getting back to me,

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NeuroSeeker

As a general thought, have you tried energy work, like reiki? Reiki has been a HUGE help for me.

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kama24

No I have not, I did go to RMT for a # of years....it is a good suggestion though

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