Only Thoughts

[alfreddy7]

“They are just thoughts and only thoughts”

“Worthless thoughts”

This phrase(s) is what has been helping my Anxiety and Depression very significantly.

Hope everyone had a good weekend 😎

[Agora1]

alfreddy7, good job...when a persistent thought would come my way, I'd ask myself,

"is this helping me?" No?? Kick it to the curb lol xx

[alfreddy7 in reply to Agora1]

Exactly.

Or if the thought is there. Then just say “ Oh, Cool! Let me know when you’re gone” and don’t forget to close the door”

Lol

[Agora1 in reply to alfreddy7]

Love it lol

[Hidden]

This tells me that u have good thoughts bcz a wise man once said, "as he thinketh in his heart, so he is". If those bad thoughts had power over you, u wouldn't be speaking like this, seems u control them when they pop up, how nice!!! I love when a person knows that the mind controls all of our body

[alfreddy7 in reply to Hidden]

Hi zoom. That’s an awesome quote.

I try to stay positive all the time. Some times the thoughts do creep up but I don’t let them get the best of me.

[Whiskers16 in reply to alfreddy7]

Omg I wish I could master this, the bad thoughts seems to be able to shout much louder than any positive ones, especially this morning.

[Hidden in reply to alfreddy7]

I know friend bcz positive thinking has become my strongest weapon. Negetive ones comes in like a flood but I just kick em out, which is really not easy. I am happy we get that. Depressions feeds on positive thinking, how I wish people can grasp that.

[Whiskers16 in reply to Hidden]

I wish I could grasp this, I really do it could literally save my life

[Hidden in reply to Whiskers16]

It really would. It all about convincing yoursef u are seeing blue when it actually red. It hard but when I see how reality sucks, I get more depressed and get enxiety until I forced positive thoughts. U need to try it out, it really would save you from depression

[Whiskers16 in reply to Hidden]

Please don’t think I’m making excuses as that’s what some people tell me on here but when the physical symptoms are so bad it really is hard to think anything positive.

[Hidden in reply to Whiskers16]

U are not at all making excuses friend. When those physical symptoms take over it is hard. This is why I usually meditate on positive thinking to strengthen my mind, so that when the physical symptoms take over, the mind will fight, but it is not easy at all especially in the beginning when the mind is not yet strong. Don't worry buddy, slowly but surely we are working thru this. We are still work in progress.

[Whiskers16 in reply to Hidden]

I have not had even one days break from these symptoms for the past 7 months, they start as soon as I wake up and are there even though I am taking medication. I’m so exhausted.I do try to meditate but it seems have the adverse effect and makes me think even more.

[Hidden in reply to Whiskers16]

I have not meditated the way people have. In fact I dont know if meditation for me is emptying of the mind, I don't know if that is even possible for me. My mind is always filled with something which is why I just decided to push positive thinking only. Meditation for me is when I repeat over and over those positive thoughts until my mind thinks of em only. I am however sorry that u are getting these bad symptoms. Have you seen a professional about them maybe to change meds and then while meds help, meditate as well.

[Whiskers16 in reply to Hidden]

I am under the mental health team here in the U.K. I have tried 3 different meds before starting this one, and this is why I think I feel so desperate as I know in my own mind they are not the answer.I have started reciting affirmations to try and push through positive thoughts.

[Hidden in reply to Whiskers16]

If you dealt with meds, I think that is good. With pushing positive thoughts, you will be okay. I struggle most of the time. I do not take meds for my depression and enxiety, I simply force thoughts, it is too hard when there are no meds which means that I have to do the double work but it does work for me. As long as those thoughts are kept at bay, I'm fine. But there are times where I have to just accept enxiety for that moment and just be in the moment instead of fighting it. It hard but I try. I have tried to study different kinds of emotions so that I can identify them so that when they take over, I let them be bcz I know they pass, they are not permanent. Depression and enxiety is the same for me, I can feel it bcz I know what it does to my body so I just sit down and let it take it course bcz I know the symptoms won't last forever. We will manage this demon friend, gradually.

[alfreddy7 in reply to Whiskers16]

Hi Whiskers,

I couldn’t agree more with what zoom has said in the couple of messages sent.

The key is not to fight it. Just let it run it’s course.

It’s not an easy task but it can be done.

You can practice a lot of mindfulness and other practices while you are finding the right meds.

One book that helped

Me the most is called “Self Help for your Nerves”

By Claire Weekes.

I I have read it at least 2-3 times to learn the ways and put them to practice.

I can also add other few tiles like

“Brain Lock”

And

“Feeling good”

You just gotta let time to heal you, But also put your own effort.

[Whiskers16 in reply to alfreddy7]

Thank you alfreddy and zoom I did read the Claire Weekes book but I know it sounds stupid but it frightened me.I know I’m trying to rush this but it’s because I have things in my life that this is affecting which is added pressure as there is a time scale.

I have been off work for 7 months and have another 5 months before they will end my contract, I have already gone down to half pay. My partner left and I’ve got to sell the house... both of these things are making me believe my life is ruined already.

I just wish I could find just a little relief to give me some hope.

[Hidden in reply to Whiskers16]

I am sorry u are going thru all this. Indeed u have a time frame. Positive thinking is not to be rushed bcz it a lifestyle, it grows gradually. You need something that will bring quick results, I hope you do find that in the meantime.

[Whiskers16 in reply to Hidden]

Is it best to say the positive thought out loud?

[Hidden in reply to Whiskers16]

That is another form of meditation according to my term for the word

[Whiskers16 in reply to alfreddy7]

Hi I’ve listened to the YouTube videos from Claire Weekes I must be stupid or something but how do you truly accept these feelings and not just pretend to accept them. I really want to understand this to be able to practice.

Thank you for any help you can give me

[alfreddy7 in reply to Whiskers16]

I know it’s hard to comprehend. I had trouble myself. I would say it took me at least a month to actually understand how you can “Accept”

It takes practice and patience.

Until this day I still have some trouble understanding but I’m in a better place than I was before.