Worst panic attack ever

[Kevin160]

Yesterday i had the 2 worst panic attacks ever, it came without any warning i dont know what triggered it honeslty but suddenly i felt nausea , and i became sore of dizzy and i could barely even take a breath , my left hand started hurting and i tried to ignore it because i know its psycological, usually when i go to bed im a bit calm , but it hasnt went away since yesterday, im just panicking more than before and it was frightening even though i really feel there is nothing to worry about, i know anxiety wont kill me but it feels that way. I just want to hold up until later this month so i can start seeing a therapist

[Hidden]

When this happens...do your slow breathing and force happy thoughts into your mind...I know how much it stinks...seems to me...you have a very good attitude...that's wonderful. Have a beautiful day. Dump trucks of love, peace, light, joy & hugs for you!

[Kevin160 in reply to Hidden]

Ya , yesterday was horrible but today i feel a bit better thank you for the support ❤️❤️

[Hidden in reply to Kevin160]

Feed all the positive you can into your mind and more today...you can do this...remember how special you are..there's only one you! Fight the good fight for you. Love, peace, light, joy & hugs for you!

[Dicksoan]

My friend I have suffered from psychosis before and it can bring scary thoughts.so I'm gona say to u that be brave...be bold....stand your ground no matter the panic or anxiety.u need to start fighting sir.fight and fight till it stops. Refuse to feel panic. When you do feel it challenge it. If you fear dark rooms then go in there and spend an hour just to challenge the fear. Victory is very sweet sir sometimes you just need to fight so that you taste victory

[Kevin160 in reply to Dicksoan]

I wish i can do that but i dont know what triggers this, i just panic for no reason, i mean the thing that scares me is that i will die from this as i always here stories from people dying from stress , now im healthy physically and i dont have any risk factors and i try to ignore it and i dont always think about it but this is what makes me panic more when i feel an attack coming , so i dont really know how to face this because there is no apperant trigger.

[masa2333 in reply to Kevin160]

I am going through exactly the same, death is my biggest fear. My panic attacks were also out of blue without any visible trigger so I know how scary it is. I’m here if you need to talk to someone

[Kevin160 in reply to masa2333]

I would like to talk to you that would be great , so we can share our experiences and see how we can get better

[Kevin160 in reply to Dicksoan]

I just also fear that im gonna keep panicking like this for no reason eventhough deep down i know there is a trigger but its became sort of im just worried about stress and what is going on with me, not that i have a stressful life or traumatic events because im over that

[Dicksoan in reply to Kevin160]

I too once started having fears that I'm gona die but guess what I did...I refused those thoughts this are psychotic so u just need to refuse. Be brave and say no im not going to die.

Also you guys need to go into meditation. That is self introspect. To look as far as childhood and see what really cause your panic attacks. It could be caused by maybe you were bullied at school and your still sad and started getting angry at such people feeling like you need to go back in time and pay them back. Such things cause different mental disorders so go and reflect at your past hursts and deal with them

[Kevin160 in reply to Dicksoan]

Well i did talk about some of my problems in previous posts u can check but in a nutshell, my health anxiety was likely caused by the fact that cancer runs in the family along with hypertension and diabetes, my mom and aunt and grandma were diagnosed with cancer along with distant relatives, family troubles too and some bullying when i was a kid, anyways i did try to overcome these its easier to face i feel like i have a bit more control of my thoughts i still get panic attacks for some reason

[Jeff1943]

Kevin, this recent attack was a brilliant opportunity for you to practice acceptance (for the time being) which has led to full recovery for so many people over the last 50 years.

I'm not sure you took the opportunity to Face, Accept, Float and Let time pass: the method several of us have explained and recommended to you on a few occasions.

Acceptance is not something you switch on like a tap, it takes time. You say you don't know what triggered it, as explained there doesn't have to be a trigger: your nervous system is over sensitised 24/7.

You say you responded with panic and fear: this would release hormones that maintain the over sensitivity of your nervous system.

O.k. Keven, I think you may have decided that Claire Weekes' Acceptance method is not for you and her book not your cuppa tea. There are other roads to recovery which you could use for recovery but the Weekes method is the only one I can advise you on. I hope you find another solution before too long.

[Kevin160 in reply to Jeff1943]

I swear i thought of you when it started happening, i was saying to myself: “you will be fine, you have anxiety nothing else you wont die,it just feels like it” , i had the worst pain and feeling of weight on my chest that i thought it wasnt but i mean im better now even that i now cant even relax because im just worried every waking moment , but somehow i feel a bit hopeful because im no longer thinking about my pulse or bp anymore and its been. While since i measured it and its always low like it doesnt cross my mind and i really feel im over it, but this is happening for no apparent reason because i just panic and feel attacks coming without doing anything, i guess its because i experienced panic and i know how terrible it is i started being afraid of it and somehow it became like another terrible cycle, i t ot to analyze it myself and say it will get better , but im going to a therapist as soon as possible so we will see, my obstacle right now is to not keep thinking im going to die from a stroke or heart attack because i know its unlikely but because the physical symptoms and my mentality and thinking during a panic attack is never logical and im just worried about eveyrhting , even things that didnt worry me before

[Jeff1943]

Just accept the painful symptoms, just accept the strange thoughts, for the time being, attach less importance to them. Do nothing, don't fight it, surrender to the symptoms of anxiety. Your nerves don't need a trigger to give you a panic attack, your nervous system is in a state of hyper sensitivity 24/7, that's all it needs.

You're still fighting, checking for it, just accept everything.

[Kevin160 in reply to Jeff1943]

I thought i accepted it because i kept telling myself its anxiety but i guess u r right i should face it and accept it not this way ...Ok i will try harder

[Jeff1943 in reply to Kevin160]

Not just to accept in your mind that it's anxiety, that's the first part of Claire Weekes method: Face - Accept - Float - And let time pass.

The second part, Accept, means to accept the discomfort and strange ideas without giving them any importance or obsessing about them, just accept the discomfort for the time being. You can't accept and fear at the same time, stop the fear and before long your nerves become desensitised and all the symptoms pass.

[Dicksoan]

Guys I hear all your saying but I have a different opinion. I too am struggling with depression. I have straggled with it for the past 26 years but I finally decided to challenge it. I really really know why I'm depressed. Its because of my low self esteem not being able to stand for myself always trying to please everyone. This causes serious depression I have learned that in every moment I have to stand for myself first and fight for my wants and desires. Well not physically but inteligenlty in speech in communication. So I have found out that I'm getting less and less depressed each day as I fight every day for high spirits I'm way better than when I started I now have joy I'm no longer lonely.I speak my problems to everyone which realy really helps me and the person I talk to. And I even get advice just buy sharing my daily struggles with strangers. So I think u need to reflect and see from inside what u really fear and fight that and panics will eventually stop

[Kevin160 in reply to Dicksoan]

Yes i understand what u mean, however for me im not depressed its just anxiety, and because it lasted for a long time, now im so afraid of the feeling itself that i find myself panicking regardless if there was a trigger, i just panic that im going to lose control and go crazy, also that i will die from this because chronic anxiety and severe panic every waking second is not healthy

[Hidden in reply to Kevin160]

Hi there, know your post was old but read all of them an I'm identical to you everything you say I too have! I'm going out a my mind an have no dr so can't get any help just wondering how your doing now an if anything helped you? I so understand every word you've said am like you no trigger for these attacks but in a constant loop an the physical symptoms have taken over my entire life. Hoping your better.

[Kevin160 in reply to Hidden]

Hey abbagail, im sorry youre experiencing all of this, just wanted you to know that as bad as it seems you can get better.

To start this long comment that i apologize for first and foremost because i talk alot haha.

Two important realizations were that

1. anxiety is never constant even if i wanted it to or not

2. There are new tools and realization that help up every single day so losing hope isnt a concern at all even if it feels like it, you just havent figured out and found what works for you yet, trust me there is alot of things, simple or weird or complex or whatever that works for people like us.

You can text me privately if you wanted to, but i barely use this forum anymore but because i probably wont be able to explain 3 years journey in one comment, i will try to hop in more frequently if you decide to to do so.

There is alot that i did to get better but as brief as i can be, i followed alot of advices here and the reason i got better is because i understood why were these advices important One of the most important advices were to accept the anxiety, and know that it will never be this way, the ONLY reason i was panicking 24/7 is because i thought my whole life will be like this, and i will never find a cure, ofcourse i had stressful events and things that scared me but because i was so worried about the effects it caused i was scared of the fear itself, the panic, the hopelessness, i was scared what will that to me my life and future , especially as a teenager i was clueless about alot and when i matured a bit it helped, i realized our bodies and mind will always shift and we will continue to improve, its inevitable, our hormones and brain chemistry always change whether we want or not so time will help, as long as you put this conceot in your head, if you keep convincing yourself you will stay like this you will prolong this process of fear, you also need to be aware that everything will be fine eventually.

I also started to stop psyching myself out, since i got anxiety attacks all the time, i reached a point where i dont think its a heart attack, and as bad as it sounds i stopped caring if it was a health thing, maybe thats the hopelessness or depression demon in me but i felt empowered that i rathered have a heart attack and die from it rather than panic from this anxiety attack and let it control my life. I guess to me personally i felt anger at some point, that i will NOT LET this to comtrol me anymore, i stopped being as superstitious in that period because i was done, i felt that i dont have anything to lose anymore so im going to get over all my fears and superstitions, later I started to get out of my comfort zone, if im afraid of going outside the house , i would litteraly drag myself out and do something thats scary to me, it was hell but it helped me gain confidence, and confidence helped me see that im much stronger and helped me not feel as anxious, remember in a point in time in the future, all your worries will be less intense, every once in a while i read about new things to help, i was introduced to home CBT tools like journaling, and not catastrophizing everything , you can read all about it, it takes time but it truly helps, and just because someone founds something that doesnt work for them doesnt mean it wont work for me, even a simple conversation would go a long way, so find what works for you ok

Anxiety isnt a constant line, its kind of like a wave, its not always bad, and its not always good, but our mission is to orepare ourselves that when it gets severe sometimes it wont break us down and we know what to tell ourselves and what actions to take.

Advice is because we are more sensitive to anxiety and stress is to limit it from our lives, to me i stopped reading things and seeing videos about depression and anxiety, only look up solution, talk to people who i know wont trigger me, and limit my usage of news and social media pages that i know will post things that will make me worry a bit, even if just temporarily helps when youre at a dark phase.

Important thing to know is that a step back doesnt mean you lost all the progress, i still get severe anxiety from time to time, i feel dissapointed but i shouldnt because i know i came a long way and that progress cant dissapear, take notes if you fear that you can forget a specific moment that makes you feel brave, or a tool that calmed you down before and stuff like that, its what imdo, and when i feel like i fell all the way down to the bottom with no way to get out and forget all the tools i learned i go back to the notes and remember all the things and i practice them again, after a while i re-use all the tools i gathered through years if work and research and talking to people and learning my body and mind and what works and what doesnt. and you will never not have anxiety, its a human reaction that is sometimes a good thing, you can still have a very great and fullfilling life even with anxiety.

If in the near future you were able to go to a dr, i highly recommend it, i only went once or twice and didnt take the meds i was provided because i was worried about the side effects, now im not recommending you ignore drs orders but to me, just having a diagnosis and knowing what path to take was crucial and that was through going to therapy, knowing that i had GAD and panic disorder, that i had alot of ocd tendancies to work through and what kind of tools help, i was recommended meds and cbt but i stuck with cbt and feel better, not saying i never got worse, and that i wont or dont need to go to therapy again, and if i need to i will take the meds.

Again sorry for the extremely long comment, but i wanted to mention as much as i can because there is alot that can be done for anxiety and depression. ways to trick your mind , or help it manage the frequent surge of adrenaline and other hormones that are produced when we feel this scared

Goodluck and if you need anything dont hesitate to send back.

[Hidden in reply to Kevin160]

Hi there, thanks so much for the reply an it wasn't too long at all with a lot a really good helpful info an I appreciate you taking the time you took to explain all a that in hopes of it helping! I'm very happy you have gotten better I realize it's always gonna b there but it sounds like you've gotten through the worst of it! It's quite a struggle! I think I could possibly tone down the general anxiety if I could get past all the physical symptoms fueling my health anxiety. It truly ruins your quality of life! As I've said I haven't had a gp in almost 20 years so it's emerge visits an dr Google...which only makes me worse but searching for anything similar that might not be as bad as I'm thinking about what I may have! I will definetly try some of your very kind suggestions..please stay in touch!! Thnx so much again.

[Kevin160 in reply to Hidden]

Yes you seem aware of your triggers and thats a great first step, important for you to not google symptoms, if possible go to a dr for any concerns to get tests, but if emergency visits are showing nothing is wrong then youre fine , its hard to accept at times and thats normal, out minds make us truly believe something is wrong, but thats not always the case, as i said find what works for you and keep practicing, you will get alot better, and if you need anything let me know.

[Beevee in reply to Kevin160]

Bravo Kevin, Bravo 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

[Kevin160 in reply to Beevee]

Thank you

[Blu7]

I used to have panic attacks daily, even wake up right into one. Honestly educate yourself about what a panic attack is and how it chemically affects your body. Understanding it made a difference, along with accepting them. Yes I remember how crazy they made me feel, and how stressed I felt thinking that I might die. But no you will be fine. I watched a video on YouTube where one lady even institutionalized herself and got shock therapy from how frustrated she was with her panic attacks. In the end she realized she never needed to do that to herself and that it comes down to understanding how panic attacks function, and learning about yourself.

[Kevin160 in reply to Blu7]

Thank you so much , i will try to do that

[weazle74]

i get panick attacks everyday i even loose my vision cant breath and get high bp shake all over... i cry and i am afraid of dying i do breathing techicks and listen to mozart music sometimes it helps .