First meal of the day
Had a coffee with 2 tbsp butter and 1tbsp coconut oil - fantastic- not sure how many of these I would be allowed in my 8 hour slot though ?
And 3 scrambled eggs, herbs, salt, whipping cream and butter served with 1/2 avocado, 2 slices Parma ham, french beans and red pepper . 😋
This is very enjoyable but I need to know am I overdoing the quantity?
That looks great! on LCHF I don't bother about the quantity too much, just don't eat until you feel hungry and it will all work out, you will fall into a natural pattern of eating that suits you.
Looks great 
Don't worry about quantity. Your body will be sorting itself and getting you back to a proper sense of hunger/fullness and thirst.
I've never tried butter and oil in my coffee and I remain to be persuaded but I enjoy coffee with double cream
Edit: also, my suggestion would be to concentrate on the food side of things and see how the eating pattern pans out, rather than setting out with an eating window in mind at this stage
Thank you for the feedback, really appreciated. But do try butter and coconut oil in the coffee when you haven’t any cream - it’s is delicious 😋
Oooh, not sure about that! And hell would freeze over before I'd run out of cream 
Me too. Always cream in our house!
😂😂
Ive got the cream, but I'm going to try the butter and coconut oil. only problem is my butter has sea salt crystals in it, will that ruin it?
Hi I only have 2 coffees a day with cream I’m doing ok on the losing side that just don’t sound right 🍏🍎
End of these day
What about calories ..?
Net carbs are down to 23.8 out of 25
But cals 1890 ? Is that not to many ?
Forget calories. Really. Just keep a close eye on the carbs for the next couple of weeks. By then you'll be in the swing of it and will have forgotten the word calories. And, chances are, you'll be eating few of them within a few weeks after that as your appetite sorts itself out.
Has anyone given you this link? It's a good guide to lchf induction healthunlocked.com/lchf-die...
Thank for quick reply, I have probably had the link but will re read it again. It’s just so new all this, having been a WW groupie for so long
You're welcome. I've just had a look at that post again and it should help you during the next few weeks
Welcome to BW instead - a better world
I’m with the others. When it’s too much, your body will say it’s too much.
Ok, well I keep going then .. 😀
I am trying to get my head around a tablespoon of butter and a tablespoon of coconut oil in ones coffee.
I think I might like it if it tasted like the inside of a bounty😁. It’s left me feeling quite puzzled to what it would taste like . Coconut butter.?..?
2 tbsp of unsalted butter, 1 tbsp of coconut oil and 250 ml black coffee add all to a blender and sap pour frothy coffee back into mug 😋 it’s one way of getting the fat in to my superb body 😂😂 recipe from diet doctor
Thank you for the explanation , my mind was so curious, I was thinking the butter and coconut oil would be blended but floating on the top🤣how silly of me, all makes sense and actually sounds quite nice.
Buy yourself a stick blender! They are quick to use and easier to clean. Just make sure to pour your coffee into a big enough mug so it doesn't splatter all over your counter :o)
Maybe try having milk in your coffee instead of butter and coconut oil? Unless your aim is to gain weight.
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Fat doesn't make you fat 🙄.
I wish I'd realised decades ago that avoiding fat was why my body had grown so misshapen. Low calorie, low fat, took weight off in the short term but made me continually hungry and angry, feeling as though I was being eaten away from the inside, and over time I piled it back on and more besides. I've reduced the carbs right down and reintroduced, butter, cream, coconut oil, avocados, salmon, chicken with the skin on - all the things I was avoiding. They satisfy my hunger, I no longer crave snacks between meals, and the weight fell off me within months. Oh yes, and full fat milk is back on the shopping list too for my coffee when I've run out of cream.
thank you for that, my mind feels now like its exploding, with all this info I am taking on. I suppose its years of low-fat, low-cal, skin off or cut off fat, medallions of bacon and those thoughts I now need to throw away into the bin. Then open up to full fat, and this new way of eating, adding cream to Vegetables - wow. I will miss pasta, but found a recipe that uses cabbage and the sauce with added prawns from DietDoctor. I Suppose it also means no more dry skin?
Can I still have Heck Sausages, or they a no no.?
I don't know Heck sausages, are they branded as low fat? Look at the ingredients on any packaging. I try to avoid process food now anyway. I thought I would crave the things I used to love most, but found there was life after bread I haven't tried to make substitutes for bread or pasta. I have bought cauliflower rice (making it was a faff), or served chilli in roasted halved peppers, chinese food on a bed of beansprouts. Mostly I just add more veg instead of potatoes. Get rid of the bland that was supposed to fill you up and eat more of the tasty bits
Heck sausages are good, so are most other premium brands. I check the carbs and if that is good, scan the ingredient list. If should be short. I am not too worried about fat content either way, there are plenty of fat sources in my diet, but I don't think any premium sausages are low fat.
The cheap sausages have a lot of cereal or potato starch.
I have never heard of anyone using bulletproof coffee as part of a meal. I don't think that is a good idea. Calories in a drink can bypass your satiety mechanisms. While I think that's only been shown for sugary drinks, it might be true for fatty drinks. And when that many calories are involved, I wouldn't risk it.
Bulletproof coffee was designed as a food to keep you going instead of breakfast, with the fats providing satiation without raising insulin, and the coconut or MCT oil boosting ketones. Drinking it along side breakfast is like washing down your WW breakfast with a SlimFast meal replacement shake. Have a black coffee or add a splash of milk or cream with our breakfast.
Everything else you are doing is great. That's a delicious looking breakfast, and right on of carb/protein/fats.
Ok, think I understand, so if having coffee have cream. I found the recipe for buttery coffee on diet doctor. So using cream, butter, oil in food that I have making and not serve it in coffee
Yes.
I was shocked that diet doctor had a recipe like that, without any explanation of how to use it. But then I had a second look, and if you page down after the recipe, they say pretty much what I say.
dietdoctor.com/recipes/bull...
Is butter coffee or Bulletproof® coffee good for weight loss?
Not really. Sure, if you drink butter coffee or the so called Bulletproof® coffee instead of having breakfast you might lose some weight. But you'd likely lose even more weight with a breakfast consisting of only black coffee (or just a little milk), i.e. intermittent fasting...
I don't think that's quite the same thing. That quote is saying to lose weight better not to have breakfast at all, JUST black coffee and continue the overnight fasting into the morning. For moonrise81, if they are going to have a breakfast, I don't see it makes a difference whether they put their butter and coconut oil in their coffee or fry eggs with it, if LCHF is working for them they will stop eating and drinking when they've had enough, which may mean leaving half the drink in the mug or the food on the plate.
P.S. as an explanation to my reasoning, I have to say I dont count calories anyway, because of what I've read about "all calories are not equal"
"if you drink butter coffee or the so called Bulletproof® coffee instead of having breakfast you might lose some weight."
They are definitely not suggesting having it with a meal.
All calories aren't equal, but it is possible to eat so much fat that you could stall your weight loss. And if drinking bulletproof coffee does get around your satiety mechanisms, but pouring butter adding butter to the meal would not, then you might end up eating past your natural appetite.
The only reason to drink it with a meal would be if you somehow wanted to get more fats than you could put on your plate. That doesn't seem the case here.
I just made myself a cup to see if I like it. 🤢
I don't think I'd have it as a meal replacement because I enjoy eating
Thank you for the that feedback. My hubby did look strange when he saw what I was doing. I haven't really mentioned exactly what I am doing. I am just changing things by adding cream and butter to my veg and cooking in butter and oil if need be.
Looking for new recipes to… and say no to high carbs.
Too much fat isn't a bad thing to start with they say. You are training your body to use a different fuel, so having it in abundance can't hurt. But eventually you will want to reduce it, because every table spoon you eat is one less that you burn of body fat.
That being said, I started with low carbs and low calorie (Fast800) and was successful. There are many approaches
Thank you, enjoyed my Brunch at 12:30! Along with some light reading
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