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Hi everyone,

I found a lump on the front of my neck (you can visibly see it) along with a raised lymph node. I had a neck ultrasound this week and I’m just waiting on the results. The radiologist said there is a 2cm nodule on my thyroid but that he couldn’t see anything concerning and would pass everything onto the consultant.

I would like a biopsy on the nodule just to be 100% sure that it’s nothing to worry about. He did say that they don’t do this anymore unless they feel there is reason to. Has anyone managed to get one even though they said it doesn’t look concerning? I would even pay for a private FNA just to put my mind at ease but I’m finding it difficult to find somewhere that does them.

On my recent blood tests it came back that I was borderline underactive,could the nodule be anything to do with this? I also have low iron that I’m on tablets for and high B12 (which they don’t seem to be concerned about). I’m due repeat bloods in August. I have all the symptoms of hypothyroidism but they don’t want to do anything about it until I’ve had my repeat bloods. If my bloods come back normal and I still feel this awful,where do I go from there?

Thanks

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On my recent blood tests it came back that I was borderline underactive,could the nodule be anything to do with this? I also have low iron that I’m on tablets for and high B12 (which they don’t seem to be concerned about). I’m due repeat bloods in August.

Suggest you get FULL thyroid and vitamin testing……privately if necessary

How low were iron and ferritin

What has GP prescribed

It can take many months to improve low ferritin

What was folate level

High B12 can be deceiving……Paradoxical B12 deficiency

b12oils.com/paradoxical.htm...

No vitamin D test result?

If not ….suggest you test via NHS private testing service

vitamindtest.org.uk

Full testing

For full Thyroid evaluation you need TSH, FT4 and FT3 tested

Also both TPO and TG thyroid antibodies tested at least once to see if your hypothyroidism is autoimmune

Very important to test vitamin D, folate, ferritin and B12 at least once year minimum

Low vitamin levels are extremely common when hypothyroid, especially with autoimmune thyroid disease

About 90% of primary hypothyroidism is autoimmune thyroid disease, usually diagnosed by high TPO and/or high TG thyroid antibodies

Autoimmune thyroid disease with goitre is Hashimoto’s

Autoimmune thyroid disease without goitre is Ord’s thyroiditis.

Both are autoimmune and generally called Hashimoto’s.

Significant minority of Hashimoto’s patients only have high TG antibodies (thyroglobulin)

20% of autoimmune thyroid patients never have high thyroid antibodies and ultrasound scan of thyroid can get diagnosis

In U.K. medics hardly ever refer to autoimmune thyroid disease as Hashimoto’s (or Ord’s thyroiditis)

Recommended that all thyroid blood tests early morning, ideally just before 9am, only drink water between waking and test

This gives highest TSH, lowest FT4 and most consistent results. (Patient to patient tip)

Private tests are available as NHS currently rarely tests Ft3 or all relevant vitamins

Post all about what time of day to test

healthunlocked.com/thyroidu...

Testing options and includes money off codes for private testing

thyroiduk.org/testing/

Medichecks Thyroid plus BOTH TPO and TG antibodies and vitamins

medichecks.com/products/adv...

Blue Horizon Thyroid Premium Gold includes BOTH TPO and TG antibodies, cortisol and vitamins

bluehorizonbloodtests.co.uk...

Only do private testing early Monday or Tuesday morning.

Link about thyroid blood tests

thyroiduk.org/testing/thyro...

Link about Hashimoto’s

thyroiduk.org/hypothyroid-b...

Symptoms of hypothyroidism

thyroiduk.org/signs-and-sym...

Tips on how to do DIY finger prick test

support.medichecks.com/hc/e...

Medichecks and BH also offer private blood draw at clinic near you, or private nurse to your own home…..for an extra fee

Come back with new post once you get results

First step is always to improve low vitamin levels

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Seashell8915 in reply to SlowDragon

Thanks for the info SlowDragon. I have actually ordered the Medichecks test this afternoon after reading good things on here. My results from 2023 and 2024 are below. They have never checked my vitamin D but I will ask them to include it in my tests in August.

November 2023

B12 970pg/ml (191-663)

Ferritin 25ug/L (12-233)

Folate 14.6ng/L (2.4-26.8)

T4 13.7 pmol/L (11-26)

TSH 1.07mU/L (0.27-4.2)

May 2024

B12 799pg/ml (191-663)

Ferritin 23ug/L (12-233)

T4 10.7 pmol/L (11-26)

TSH 1.71mU/L (0.27-4.2)

For some reason they didn’t test folate in May. They put me on ferrous sulphate for 3months until my next blood test and I’m not on any other medications or supplements. I know I have a lot to learn about how everything works with each other but I just need advice on what I need to be asking the GP for to make sure I get the right treatment. Hopefully the medicheck test sheds some light

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SlowDragonAdministrator in reply to Seashell8915

November 2023

Ferritin 25ug/L (12-233)

May 2024

Ferritin 23ug/L (12-233)

Ferritin is deficient - anaemic

Anaemia will cause fatigue

They put me on ferrous sulphate for 3months until my next blood test

Was this after first low ferritin test ….because ferritin has gone down at latest test

Are you vegetarian or vegan

cks.nice.org.uk/topics/anae...

Serum ferritin level is the biochemical test, which most reliably correlates with relative total body iron stores. In all people, a serum ferritin level of less than 30 micrograms/L confirms the diagnosis of iron deficiency.

Never supplement iron without doing full iron panel test for anaemia first and retest 3-4 times a year if self supplementing.

It’s possible to have low ferritin but high iron

Test early morning, only water to drink between waking and test. Avoid high iron rich dinner night before test

Stop iron supplements 5-7 days before testing

Medichecks iron panel test

medichecks.com/products/iro...

Look at increasing iron rich foods in diet

Eating iron rich foods like liver or liver pate once a week plus other red meat, pumpkin seeds and dark chocolate, plus daily orange juice or other vitamin C rich drink can help improve iron absorption

List of iron rich foods

dailyiron.net

Links about iron and ferritin

irondisorders.org/too-littl...

davidg170.sg-host.com/wp-co...

Great in-depth article on low ferritin

oatext.com/iron-deficiency-...

drhedberg.com/ferritin-hypo...

This is interesting because I have noticed that many patients with Hashimoto’s disease and hypothyroidism, start to feel worse when their ferritin drops below 80 and usually there is hair loss when it drops below 50.

healthunlocked.com/thyroidu...

Posts discussing Three Arrows as very effective supplement

Great replies from @FallingInReverse

re ferritin and Three arrows

healthunlocked.com/thyroidu......

healthunlocked.com/thyroidu...

healthunlocked.com/thyroidu...

Great reply by @fallinginreverse

healthunlocked.com/thyroidu...

Iron patches

healthunlocked.com/thyroidu...

Thyroid disease is as much about optimising vitamins as thyroid hormones

healthunlocked.com/thyroidu...

restartmed.com/hypothyroidi...

Post discussing just how long it can take to raise low ferritin

healthunlocked.com/thyroidu...

Iron and thyroid link

healthunlocked.com/thyroidu...

Posts discussing why important to do full iron panel test

healthunlocked.com/thyroidu...

Good iron but low ferritin

healthunlocked.com/thyroidu...

healthunlocked.com/thyroidu...

Chicken livers if iron is good, but ferritin low

healthunlocked.com/thyroidu...

Shellfish and Mussels are excellent source of iron

healthline.com/nutrition/he...

Iron deficiency without anaemia

healthunlocked.com/thyroidu...

Ferritin over 100 to alleviate symptoms

healthunlocked.com/thyroidu...

healthunlocked.com/thyroidu...

Great research article discussing similar…..ferritin over 100 often necessary

ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articl...

Low Iron implicated in hypothyroidism

healthunlocked.com/thyroidu...

Really interesting talk on YouTube, link in reply by Humanbean discussing both iron deficiency and towards end how inflammation can also be an issue

healthunlocked.com/thyroidu...

Inflammation affecting ferritin

healthunlocked.com/thyroidu...

Updated reference ranges for top of ferritin range depending upon age

healthunlocked.com/thyroidu...

Thank you for your incredible patience while you have been awaiting the outcome of our ferritin reference range review. We conducted this with Inuvi lab, which has now changed the reference ranges to the following:

Females 18 ≤ age < 40. 30 to 180

Females 40 ≤ age < 50. 30 to 207

Females 50 ≤ age < 60. 30 to 264l

Females Age ≥ 60. 30 to 332

Males 18 ≤ age < 40 30 to 442

Males Age ≥ 40 30 to 518

The lower limits of 30 are by the NICE threshold of <30 for iron deficiency. Our review of Medichecks data has determined the upper limits. This retrospective study used a large dataset of blood test results from 25,425 healthy participants aged 18 to 97 over seven years. This is the most extensive study on ferritin reference ranges, and we hope to achieve journal publication so that these ranges can be applied more widely.

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Seashell8915 in reply to SlowDragon

No I am not vegan or vegetarian,I eat a healthy varied diet so it did surprise me when the values were low. No they didn’t treat the iron deficiency in November,they just said it was low but nothing to worry about (I didn’t have the numbers myself back then) but when it had dropped further in May they decided to treat it for 3 months to see if that helps. I will definitely read through all the things you have sent,thankyou.

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SlowDragonAdministrator in reply to Seashell8915

It can be chicken and egg

Low thyroid levels tends to lower vitamin levels, especially ferritin

Low vitamin levels can affect thyroid function

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Seashell8915 in reply to SlowDragon

I have just realised that it is my T4 that is out of range not TSH, which it would be the other way around for hypothyroidism if I’m correct? I have just been reading about central/secondary hypothyroidism and I think this looks more correct for my blood results. Do you know much about this?

Thanks

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