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Hi can anyone tell me if these latest results are OK please. Tsh 3.93 (0.27-4.2 )Down from last result of 4.95.

FT3 4 (3.1-6.8) Down from 4.7 last results

Ft4 16.4 (12-22) Down from 17 last results

TGA 237 (0-115. Down from 369 last results

TPO 600 ( 0-34) No change from last results.

Have been struggling with thyroid for a while but have made diet changes and supplement b vits . So I'm hoping I'm heading in the right direction. 🤔

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How much levothyroxine are you taking

How long on this dose

Which brand is it

How do you feel

What vitamins are you taking

Your results show you are ready for next dose increase in levothyroxine

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moljanie in reply toSlowDragon

Hi Slow Dragon, Thankyou for your response.I could not get on with levothyroxine felt sped up on it so decided not to carry on with it . None taken for past 6 months . I only take thorne b complex vitamins . Have also cut out supermarket bread and seed oils from my diet . Would you say my levels are OK. Thankyou.

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SlowDragonAdministrator in reply tomoljanie

I would say your high thyroid antibodies confirms autoimmune thyroid disease also called Hashimoto’s

Your thyroid is slowly failing

You need to be restarted on Levo

You were started on too high a dose previously

See GP

Request starting again on lower dose

Initially ideally at 50mcg ……but if you want to start lower at 25mcg initially you could

Then retest after 6-8 weeks

There’s 3 brands in U.K. that make 25mcg tablets

Wockhardt, Mercury Pharma or Teva

Avoid Teva unless you know you are lactose intolerant. Teva upsets many people

You will need to SLOWLY increasing dose Levo up over coming year or so

retest 6-8 weeks after each increase

Typically dose is increased upwards in 25mcg steps, but some people have to increase more slowly at 12.5mcg

ESSENTIAL to regularly retest vitamin levels

Remember to stop B complex 5-7 days before any blood tests as contains biotin

Instead take a daily folate that week…..and daily B12 if Serum B12 below 500 or active B12 below 70

High TPO antibodies

Gluten Free Diet does need to be absolutely strictly gluten free to be effective

TG antibodies tend to reduce as Levo dose increases and TSH reduces

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Your antibodies are high showing thyroid autoimmune disease/Hashomoto's. Hormone levels can flare up....though clearly not at the time of that lab test.

Hashi's is a common cause of hypothyroidism

Most benefit from a gluten free diet

Your Frees are far too low....and falling

FT3 4 (3.1-6.8) Down from 4.7 last results

Ft4 16.4 (12-22) Down from 17 last results

If you are hypothyroid you need replacement hormone for life, dropping it will make you ill I'm afraid

Diet and supplements won't resolve this....thyroid hormone will

Levothyroxine is a bioidentical hormone treatment to replace T4 which is essential to the body

What levo dose did you start on?

I could not get on with levothyroxine.....

with levels as low as yours you need to start on a very low dose ( say even just 10mcg) for a week or more to allow the system to adapt to it, and then you slowly increase the dose.

Normal adult starting dose is 50mcg....25mcg for elderly

The dose you were taking was likely too high causing you to over react.

So, no, your results are neither OK nor heading in the right direction because you have stopped your essential mediction

You can learn more about your thyroid condition here

thyroiduk.org/if-you-are-hy...

Suggest you go back and speak to your GP who hopefully is clued up and will re-start your medication

Later!!

PS....just checked back and see you were started on 75mcg levo....no wonder you felt "sped up". That's like putting high octane racing fuel in an old Mini!! You should have been given a further test/ review after 6 weeks of starting levo.

Your doctor was treating you wrongly....but you must see someone else who will do a better job

So sorry you've had to put up with this.

Go and educate them!!!!

....and earlier

Doctor stated it is a normal reaction when starting levo due to T3 pooling and cortisol reactions.

Well that is nonsense....she was clearly asleep during thyroid lectures at med school

It's not the levo that's the problem....it's that doctor!

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moljanie in reply toDippyDame

Hi Everyone, Thankyou for your input. I am disappointed that I'm not improving. Hated the way levo made me feel so very reluctant to go back . The doctor was one I found on thyroid uk site . Not sure where to turn now . My gp states my thyroid is fine . Fed up with it all tbh.

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DippyDame in reply tomoljanie

Start on a very low dose of levo as we've advised....it was the size of the dose that was the problem rather than the levo per se.

Ignore the GP, he's clueless. If he had thyroid disease I bet he would know more!!

We have also cautioned that progress will have to be slow.....

Anything else guarantees failure

Not what any of us have wanted to hear....but that's the bottom line.

So, as the lyrics of an old song goes.... " pick yourself up, dust yourself down, and start all over again"

I hit rock bottom several years ago.....and that was my only option. It worked!!

We're all here to help....just ask!!

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Many people find Levothyroxine brands are not interchangeable.

Most easily available (and often most easily tolerated) are Mercury Pharma or Accord

Mercury Pharma make 25mcg, 50mcg and 100mcg tablets 

Mercury Pharma also boxed as Eltroxin. Both often listed by company name on pharmacy database - Advanz

Accord only make 50mcg and 100mcg tablets. Accord is also boxed as Almus via Boots, 

Wockhardt is very well tolerated, but only available in 25mcg tablets. Some people remain on Wockhardt, taking their daily dose as a number of tablets 

Lactose free brands - currently Teva or Vencamil only

Teva makes 25mcg, 50mcg, 75mcg and 100mcg

Many patients do NOT get on well with Teva brand of Levothyroxine.

Teva is lactose free.But Teva contains mannitol as a filler instead of lactose, which seems to be possible cause of problems. Mannitol seems to upset many people, it changes gut biome 

Teva is the only brand that makes 75mcg tablet.

So if avoiding Teva for 75mcg dose ask for 25mcg to add to 50mcg or just extra 50mcg tablets to cut in half

But for some people (usually if lactose intolerant, Teva is by far the best option)

Vencamil (currently 100mcg only) is lactose free and mannitol free. 25mcg and 50mcg tablets hopefully available from summer 2024

March 2023 - Aristo now called Vencamil

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Helpful post about different brands

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List of different brands available in U.K.

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