K2 with Vit D

[Fortie]

I have a question about K2

The reason for the post is that on a previous blood test over a year ago. it stated that my Haemoglobin estimation was abnormal ( over range).

I put a note to the Dr for an understanding on this point but no reply, its just I have a little worry that if there is a blood clotting issue maybe I should not take K2 with Vit D? could also be in the B Complex?

If you have any knowledge on this, would much appreciate any addition information on this point.

Many Thanks

[greygoose]

Where blood clotting is concerned, it's usually K1 the culprit that you should avoid. But, there are differing opinions. Some people insist that both Ks should be avoided. Other that it's only K1. And I really don't have an answer. I just know they're both very difficult to avoid!

However, asking your doctor is not going to help because the chances of him know anything about it are very slim. Doctors know practically nothing about nutrition. And I have been told some very, very weird things by them. So, my advice is: never, ever, ask a doctor for nutritional advice. Maybe someone on here has a definitive answer? Maybe no-one really knows. But I shall be following this thread out of curiosity, because it would be good to know.

But, the thing is, if you don't take vit K2 with vit D, the extra calcium you'll be absorbing could end up in your arteries cause calcification. Which wouldn't be good, either. So, I just don't know.

[gabkad in reply to greygoose]

The important test is prothrombin time. Nothing to do with hemoglobin. It's about blood clotting factors. Should be 1.0 if a person is not taking blood thinners.

[greygoose in reply to gabkad]

Yes, but that doesn't really answer the question about K2, does it.

[gabkad in reply to greygoose]

My impression was that the question had to do with high hemoglobin and K2 and if the hemoglobin is high would taking K2 predispose to blood clots. They are not related.

Possibly the person was dehydrated when the blood was taken because hemoglobin is measured as a percentage of the sample. Were RBCs over range as well? We don't know.

Dehydration can predispose to getting blood clots but not because of the hemoglobin

or vitamin K2. It's easy enough to look up the information.

[greygoose in reply to gabkad]

OK. I took the question to be about whether K2 has the same effect as K1. But, maybe I'm wrong.

But it wasn't me asking the question so your reply is lost on me.

[gabkad in reply to greygoose]

Again:

Vitamin K2(K2), a therapeutic agent osteoporosis, is prohibited for patients with thrombosis who are receiving warfarin (WF). However, because some aged patients with thrombosis have osteoporosis, some patients treated with WF may be administered K2 concomitantly.

The person asking the question is confused because one thing (hemoglobin) has nothing whatsoever to do with vitamin K2. Or K1 for that matter.

[greygoose in reply to gabkad]

Again? I've never heard that before.

[Fortie in reply to gabkad]

=5😀 I also suffer from varicose veins which I was also factoring any risk

[Fortie in reply to gabkad]

Many thanks for your reply very informative. I probably am confused but when something abnormal shows up on a blood test and is not explained by Gp surgery, and due to not having much knowledge, I was trying to allay any worries which were niggling away in my little head. This was also due to when I did my finger prick test recently ( the blood seemed to congeal quite quickly) so putting 2 +2+5🙃

at the time RBC was 4.93 (3.8-5.3} normal

Haem Estimation 1.52g/l (120-150] abnormal

Haematicit 0.445l/l [0-37-0-45 normal

[gabkad in reply to Fortie]

Next time you do a blood test, make sure you have enough fluid on board. Sometimes people do fasting tests and don't drink water. Check the colour of your urine. If it's very yellow, you are mildly dehydrated. It should be slightly yellow, not colourless.

Women have a habit of not being sufficiently hydrated because we can't just go squat somewhere to have a wee. And there aren't toilets everywhere.

[Fortie in reply to gabkad]

Ok will keep that in mind next time. Many Thanks - I'll resume the K2 then

[Me2U]

This is an interesting question as I have just started taking a Vit D & K2 supplement. I have done so as i am currently experiencing fractured & breaking teeth - after years & years of no problems & wondered if it was due to low on calcium (though I drink lots of milk) I bought ones with k2 in as was recommended on a fb vid by "Dr Berg" After your post, am hoping it is order for me to do so.

[Polski]

Many Nutritionists (not doctors) don't consider milk to be the best source of calcium, as it is not easily absorbed. You may want to cut down on the milk, take a small calcium supplement, and find out what vegetables to eat to increase your natural supplies.