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I read that metabolic syndrome is associated with autoimmune diseases (so also hashimoto), so I decided to prevent it (I found a book on the spot, let's hope it's good).

Has anyone else successfully followed izabella wentz's advice? I really liked her advice and put it into practice right away.

Myendocrinologist for tpo30 trg9.4 and a 'finely inhomogeneous thyroid' a tsh at 1.36 and t4 1.02 prescribed me a small dose of dry thyroid. In theory, as Wentz says, I should benefit the thyroid by putting it at rest a little, if I'm not mistaken 🤔.

Theinteresting thing about bringing down the tpo's 'scavengers' is that they tell us how severe the autoimmune attack is (even if it's not the tpo's that do the attack).

Whatdo you think, is my endocrinologist right? And am I right to prevent M.S?

ps: Being Asperger's I like to know everything, everything about a topic (now it's a passion)

Sorry for my english🙂

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In theory, as Wentz says, I should benefit the thyroid by putting it at rest a little, if I'm not mistaken 🤔.

Well, you will, anyway, if you take thyroid hormone replacement. That's what it does. But, I've never heard that it 'benefitted' the thyroid in any way. No idea what she's talking about, there.

I started out following Wentz, but pretty quickly found out she was living on a different planet. Thyroids in my world don't behave they way they do in hers.

Theinteresting thing about bringing down the tpo's 'scavengers' is that they tell us how severe the autoimmune attack is (even if it's not the tpo's that do the attack).

'Scavengers' is not the word I would use. That has negative connotations. antibodies help by cleaning up the blood. So, I would call them janitors, rather than scavengers.

So, what is the point of know how 'severe' the attack is? There's nothing you can do about it, anyway. And, how do you know that you're catching them at their highest point, given that they're likely to fluctuate from day to day? Does he suggest testing every day? Sorry, your endo might be right, but I can't see the point. It's like one of those useful bits of info that you squirrel away for playing Trivial Persuit or a pub quizz.

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darkacademia in reply togreygoose

Endocrinologists also say that the t3 drug is useless and only t4 is useful. So I don't trust them.( No one ever says they're working on stem cells to cure destroyed organs.) And I really hope that TPOs aren't as fluctuating as endocrinologists say. Thanks to izabella I realized that gluten bothers me a lot and I have always had pain in my intestines. I found h.pylori that worsens anemia, in my analysis... All as you said I don't think she lives on another planet, but the other doctors do. I read your biography and you had to treat yourself with t3 (as the lawyer Paul did in 'Circadian T3 metod' because no one was able to help him, do you know that book?). I hope that by following her instructions I can remain in remission. For example, in the book from which many endocrinologists study, the "william textbook", they do not take into account 'hepatic steatosis' and they boast T4 as the only medication that works for every person 🙄.

Almost none of the doctors tell us that the 'levothyroxine' in the instruction leaflet (eutirox in Europe for example) causes 'increased hunger', and I report what they wrote "Changes in laboratory tests to assess liver function, as they may indicate liver dysfunction" ... liver? yes,

very important for the conversion of T4 to T3.

Anyway for many wrong grammar terms in English, I'm sorry but I use the translator, English is not my native language🙂

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Don't worry about the grammar! I understand what it's like to try and make yourself understood in a foreign language, because I live in France. You're doing very well!

OK, so endos are very, very wrong about T4, we patients all know that! But, as I said, they don't know what T3 is. They just don't learn about it in med school. I don't trust them, either! lol

No one ever says they're working on stem cells to cure destroyed organs.

Which is a shame because we know that can work. But I'm not sure it would be very helpful for people with Hashi's, because the Hashi's would just start attacking and destroying the new thyroid!

And I really hope that TPOs aren't as fluctuating as endocrinologists say.

Well, actually, I'm pretty sure they are - especially early on in the disease. But, so what? They're not doing any harm. They're just clearing up the debris left by an attack on the thyroid, to keep the blood clean.

Thanks to izabella I realized that gluten bothers me a lot and I have always had pain in my intestines.

Well, you don't need Izabella to realise that. We're always talking about gluten on here, and the advisability of trying a gluten-free diet.

All as you said I don't think she lives on another planet, but the other doctors do.

They all do! Izabella included.

as the lawyer Paul did in 'Circadian T3 metod' because no one was able to help him, do you know that book?

I know of it, but I haven't read it. I don't think his method would be of much use to me because I don't have the same problem as him. My problem is poor absorption at a cellular level, so I need to take a large dose of T3 all in one got to saturate the receptors. That is not his method.

I hope that by following her instructions I can remain in remission.

Sorry, but I very much doubt that.

For example, in the book from which many endocrinologists study, the "william textbook", they do not take into account 'hepatic steatosis'

Fatty liver, yes. That will affect conversion, but doctors know next to nothing about conversion, anyway. And it's not the only cause of poor conversion.

Almost none of the doctors tell us that the 'levothyroxine' in the instruction leaflet (eutirox in Europe for example) causes 'increased hunger',

Well, it does for some people, but not everyone. But, what difference does that make in the general run of things? Diogenes posted a paper about it a short time ago. But, the problem is not that levo increases hunger, but why it does, and what are the implications of that? They still don't seem to have worked that out!

But the average doctor doesn't read these research papers, anyway. They just go by what they learnt in med school - even if it was thirty, forty years ago and knowledge has moved on since then. And what they learnt was not enough and most of it wrong.

I don't trust doctors and very rarely respect them. That is why I self-treat. As soon as I realised I could 'write my own prescriptions' I said 'doctors, bye-bye!' I'm far better off on my own!

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darkacademia in reply togreygoose

"That is why I self-treat. As soon as I realised I could 'write my own prescriptions' I said 'doctors, bye-bye!' I'm far better off on my own!"

How did you do that? 🙂 Now I'm curious!

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I bought my own thyroid hormone on-line and dosed by symptoms. I know my body weel enough to be able to do that.

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darkacademia in reply togreygoose

wow! Which website can you buy? Just out of curiosity, I'm very curious, I know, but if I 🙂 can learn a lot of things from different people, it's better

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We're not allowed to mention names of these sites on the forum, I'm afraid. :)

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I saw that there are chats, can you write it to me there ? Thank you very much ❤️

I've already sent you a message 🙂

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