Hubby had cold symptoms last week and tested positive, I felt ok at the time but had a faint line. Roll on 6 days I’ve had the all over aches, hot and cold sweats, pain in my throat, unbelievable sneezing and runny nose, a bit of a cough but not much. Most of that has gone except for that familiar CF PEM feeling, need a sit down after the most trivial of tasks, have been out of character depressed anxious, tearful, miserable. Unable to work, grow/pick and only manage the most restful of yoga poses.
It feels a bit like my unmedicated hypothyroid state of 2 years back. Hubby right as rain… me not recovering.
I just wanted to know if any of this is familiar?
How much is hypothyroid related and how much is Covid? and what advice folks might have to speed up recovery. GP suggests upping T4 from 75mcg to alternating 75/100mcg temporarily.
I have been following the Dr Sarah Myhill Vit C treatment and upped my Vit D (not at the same time obvs).
A miserable Regen 🥴 🌱
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Oh that’s rough, hopefully the jab makes it less rough when you get it. I feel pretty similar to when I had it the first time with no vax at the time because it didn’t exist yet. 🦠
Ah mate, that sounds lousy 😕 I don't have any great words of wisdom as I have yet to succumb but I'm sending you a big hug 🤗 and will be following closely for when it finally gets me.... I have read that when ill a dose increase isn't a bad idea as though you aren't doing much there is a whole battle being fort within which sap everything
p.s at least irritatingly bounce back husband can spoil you rotten 😁
Yeah do you think it’s an autoimmune and immune battle?
Old GP told me my immune system is not impaired… but I’m certain Covid pokes around at thyroiditis.
Everyone around me family/colleagues/85 year old Mum bounces back so much quicker yet I’m the one eating and supplementing like some crazy vitamin cult member. Bah 🤧
So sorry to hear that you are feeling so poorly Reggie☹️ It's probably a mixture of both the virus and your thyroid being knocked at the same time. Viruses can do untold damage and it's important that you don't try to fight it too much but be kind to yourself and rest up as much as you need. I'm speaking from experience as I was diagnosed with CFS after having a Coxsackie B virus which debilitated me for an awful long time and it was only when I got to see a virologist and was put onto NDT that I started to see some improvement. There definitely seems to be a connection with Low T3 Syndrome and fatigued states so do keep this in mind. Most people will have some sort of post viral fatigue following a virus and your symptoms are normal but seriously rest is the key word here - try and forget about all that needs doing and give your body what it needs to make a full recovery🤗 Hugs xx
I’m sending you very best wishes. I definitely had an inflammatory response to Covid (significant back pain)and rheumatologist advised turmeric with ginger & black pepper as first step. Unfortunately I needed step two - a cortisol injection, but I’ve got to say this has also helped improve my symptoms. Plenty of rest is also needed! 🦋
Good call, will give this a go. Easy one to try. Thanks for sharing the idea. Sorry to hear the resulting cortisol was needed but good that you got some improvement. 🌱
Poor you. My husband and I have a virus too. Sounds just the same but not had a positive test yet. Last year my son had to do 3 tests before he got a positive one. There certainly is a lot of it about.
My poor 90 year old mother in law has COVID for the second time despite having had all the available immunisations. She had her most recent one 30 mins before meeting the neighbours who gave her Covid. They’d been on holiday in Italy. Sod’s Law!
The only suggestions I can make are try some zinc and I’m also taking Black Seed Oil & Oregano oil. Might help.
Ugh it’s everywhere isn’t it. A work tip is to do your throat as well as your nose and properly mash the swab into the liquid for a full 30 seconds then only the 4 drops. Xx
Yep hubby was 3 days in with runny nose and sneezing. Plus we had to remember how to test properly and find the instructions. As soon as he did that it came up with two lines. 🌱
There is some anecdotal evidence that COVID (& possibly even the vaccine) depletes b12 enormously, so worth making sure you have plenty of it. You can’t overdose but need to have good levels of folate to utilise it effectively. Hope you recover soon. 🙏🏾
I think there have been some early trials piloting b12 as a treatment for COVID so well worth it. If it helped then was short lived it definitely suggests you may need more. If you increase the dose significantly, it’s always wise to ensure you get plenty of potassium from food too. Good luck 🍀
It does sound like low T3 or adrenal fatigue as adrenals have probably had to do a lot to compensate for struggling thyroid. Might be worth trying an adrenal support for a couple of months ?
Thanks for this, already taking pure encapsulations adrenal support for about a month, pre covid it really helped smooth out the bumps of my intermittent high adrenaline anxious state. It felt like it slowed the world down around me. I take T3 too and was at top 25% of range last test. But agree these levels could be dropping/impacted by Covid. Need to rest more I think, have been trying to do too much too soon. 🌱
I had Covid last summer. I felt dreadful and had the post viral fatigue for about a month afterwards. I didn't increase my thyroid meds but I did have plenty of b12 jabs. I just had to accept a slower pace of life for a while. The fatigue would come over me quickly and affected my processing too. Luckily my employer was kind and let me wfh during this and tale rest breaks. My advice is not to push yourself.... research has shown that those who take things gently recover better in the end.See yourself as convalescing and given your hubby who has bounced back (lucky thing!) maybe he can do the running around for you. Rest up, increase your B12 jabs, vit C, make sure your Vit D level is optimal, plenty of fresh food and lots of sleep/rest.
Thank you, I will follow your advice. I’m a total newbie to injecting B12, took me a fortnight to feel brave enough to order it all and another week of it sitting in a box in a drawer 🤣 I have done 2 so far about a fortnight apart. Last one was Friday a few days ago. How often would you suggest? The numb arm and tingling fingers vanished but I’m still clattering around dropping stuff and bumping into things. Mental clarity and working memory is best it’s been for years. 🌱
Every other day is recommended if you have neurological symptoms until no further improvement is noticed. Just make sure you have v good levels of folate & plenty of potassium from your diet to support this (you should be good if doing the Zoe diet).
Glad I ejections are helping. Neurological symptoms like numbness, motor cordination etc NICE advice is B12 injections alternate days until fully recovered. I would suggest you also take a basic B complex like Thorne's Basic B with folate to keep the B vits balanced.
totally agree that Vit D especially should be optimal. A study done in Spain in the first year of Covid infection showed good results in patients who were supplemented with vitamin D.
Good for you. I find when the weather gets cold I really need more T3. It always amazes me the difference this makes. Same for when I’ve had a stressful time or when I’ve had a virus , my thyroid isn’t able to step up like people with a healthy thyroid so I have to add a bit more T3.
So nice he is doing that. I only ask because I find it very hard to stop, even when my body needs it. I think the driven part is very helpful but not for recovery. It needs to take a holiday!
I've just had covid and a chest infection at the same time and felt exactly as you describe. 2 weeks after 'getting better', I'm beginning to feel a little more energetic, hang in there. The anxious/depressed/high emotional state I was in for a few days really caught me off guard, it felt very strange.
Yes to this! Thanks so much for sharing your parallels, I’ve been so teary and miserable, lonely yet not alone, hopeless feeling. Not like me at all, very blue. Ok patience required 🤗
One thing to add, are you taking vit K2 with your vit D3? There's a FB group called Vit D Wellness and their protocol has raised my levels significantly over 3months, they're still not optimal, but getting there. Also, covid seems to batter B12 stores and low B12 can leave us feeling pretty similar to what we've experienced, so I've started a high dose of that too.....I feel like I rattle nowadays 😂
Okay, I had COVID four times, whilst my household only once each in the two years I was most likely undiagnosed hypothyroid and the last three infections knocked me for six for about four to six weeks. I actually think the first COVID infection finished off a poorly but functioning thyroid. I found that rest when my body told me to and attentive supplimenting of iron and B12 and vit D seemed lift me out of exhaustion. I'm sure Levothyroxin would have been a better option, but the vitamins helped, a choice I made because it felt like anemia. Any infection sends your system screwy with inflammation, and COVID has a particular talent for it.
Catching COVID I do believe affects tsh levels, so you may need a change your dosage (higher) You may also need a course of steroids/antibiotics. Speak to your Doctor. I have had all my COVID vaccinations and flu vaccines covid hit me like a bus, and I now have LPR. Hope you feel better soon 💕
Sorry to hear about your LPR, I’ve had that T shirt. What’s working for you?
I had to… take betaine with pepsin at meal times, stop fizzy drinks. Eat before 7pm, increase FT3, raise head end of the bed. ENT clapped at last appointment and told me it was a remarkable recovery and delighted I ignored any PPI and Gaviscon advice as conferences he was going to showed they don’t work. He said controlling hypothyroidism is the one thing most LPR patients could do better. Good luck resolving 🌱
Sorry to hear you got the t shirt , they are not very trendy 🙄🙂.I totally agree with that, I was prescribed omeprazole and gaviscon advance, I tried the omeprazole for a month. But during that time I felt worse and did some research to see that not many got better on it. So I kept a food diet as prior to COVID I had sneezing a lot but never figured out why or what. After a couple of weeks I found that bread was my trigger, I haven't had white or wholemeal bread in about 3 months and my symptoms have gone. Occasionally if I have spicy food I will have some gaviscon advance just incase. But thankfully I have had a few months of peace and sleep on a normal pillow again ❤️
Argh that’s the worst isn’t it. Made me feel dreadful every time but then I thank my lucky stars it made covid less awful for me. I can’t even imagine what it would do to me without the benefit of some antibodies already built up, my 20 year old had it unvaccinated first time round because the vax wasn’t out yet and he was floored. Constitution and temperament of an Ox, flat out in bed for days. Keel well 🙏🌱
I had Covid in February for the second time. I felt just as poorly as the first time I had it. I was just moving from the bed to the sofa and back to the bed for 3 days. Then I saw Dr Myhill’s YouTube video about
“treating viral infection, part 1”
I started the treatment on the evening of the third day and by the next day I was functioning again.
I use it now every time I start feeling something coming on and I haven’t had any colds etc take hold since then.
Hey Venicefan i just wanted to say how amazing your suggestion is. Watched the video, downed 8g Vit C over the day to bowel tolerance. I usually can’t tolerate more than 1g!! Ordered the salt pipe which arrived next day. Repeated day 2, and I am back at work today. I am certain you speeded up my recovery, so simple ✅☝️🌱
Hey Venicefan 🙏 to you from my 85year old Mum, she has been Vit C dosing and salt piping with iodine and has warded off what felt like a post covid chest infection no antibiotics so far. Absolutely delighted with her recovery. 🥳
I tested positive over 2 weeks ago negative after 6 days however I had very similar symptoms to you no energy feeling down and exhausted. I put it down to the fact that one of my symptoms was a very upset stomach therefore I don't think I was absorbing my medication or supplements. Slowly feeling better but having to pace myself and rest more. Left with some congestion and a cough but a virus can take a while to recover from . It is frustrating watching other people recover more quickly.
Thanks so much il have a watch. I do have low zinc, below normal range in recent blood test, supplements don’t seem to be doing much. GP taking advice as apparently OTC supplements should work. So far picolinate did nothing, zinc went downon that. Trying biglycinate now. I don’t eat many whole grains anyway but oats/rice definitely not at same time so can’t be that either. 🤷🏽♀️
These doctors have treated covid patients with higher zinc doses at the beginning of illness with good results, quicker recovery times. All info in video.
I am so sorry to hear all you're going through. I have not had COVID (+the last time I had flu was 50yrs ago) but followed the supplement regime I learned from America regarding covid. What I can say is that I understand about supplementation is it works even after catching COVID to aid recovery. The Biggie for me is that Zinc prevents replication of viruses in the cells but you need quercitin to get the zinc into the cells, zinc is the bullet+quercitin is the gun. So quercitin, I understand, is essential+I've included it my regime for nearly 3 yes now. Maybe it's something to investigate yourself! I trust you are soon fighting fit+this present situation is but a vague memory
When I had Covid in 2021, it really messed with my thyroid. I went hyper, I had to miss/ reduce some meds for weeks. But the PEM lasted much longer, no energy at a cell level lasted for months on/off
Sorry to hear that, mine went the other way in 2021 hypo. It’s a right pain isn’t it. Hope you dodge it this round, seems to be everywhere out here in the West.
Also had it in early 2021, with thyrotoxicosis (over-range fT4 and fT3, with same dose). Hampered in getting back on an even keel by the vacutainer shortage which limited testing frequency. I do tend to go hyper with illness, injuries and stress. The hotline doctor asked if I had a blood glucose meter (I did!), and maybe the dietary changes have also improved my thyroid hormone conversion capability. Even so, I'm not doing as well as a family member who was in ICU with COVID-19 last November.
Thank you. One of my main issues was a feeling of discomfort in my upper chest, which would reduce a walk to a stagger after a few minutes. It wasn't breathlessness, and a GP suggested deconditioning (but didn't push the matter). After 21 months, with no real exercise, it just went. The thyrotoxicosis caused some tachycardia and insomnia, and may have been responsible for feeling out of sorts when standing. My stock of Thiroyd was running low, so I decided to go back to levothyroxine, only, but my TSH stayed suppressed for a few months until now, when it's risen to 4.3.
COVID can take a running jump! But trying to sweep it under the carpet doesn't work.
So sorry you are going through this - I have a similar story, but on hyperthyroid Graves disease.
I was in remission for 5 years when covid no2 hit and 4 to 6 weeks later I started having the dreaded symptoms… did an advanced thyroid blood test through Thriva and found elevated antibodies on all fronts… so got back on Selenium, vitamin D3+K2, and of course huge amounts of Omega 3 (I work up slowly from normal dose to double/triple over a few weeks - my gut tells me if I take too much 😅)… thankfully 3 weeks later blood tests came back normal.
For fatigue I look at anything from blood circulation (l-arginine is great to take to improve blood circulation and try and avoid blood clotting after covid), to inflammation (omega-3), nerve and neuro regeneration (lion’s mane mushroom powder) and mitochondrial function (activated B vitamins, NAC, coQ10).
Still takes 4-5 weeks to feel normal!!! The constant post-nasal drip makes it hard to sleep well in the first few weeks so I do take an antihistamine at night plus some melatonin to make sure I get good sleep at night.
Hope you can find your own combination of supplements to ensure good sleep and regeneration. Ashwagandha is also great to modulate immune response if immune system is overreacting - but it has to be taken long term (at least 3 months) and it will also build resilience to stress inyo your nervous system.
When I had Covid I was using thyroid hormone replacement because I had a thyroidectomy due to cancer. I was very sick in bed for two weeks. I broke out in hives and welts. I was able to move around the third week. Took awhile to recover. Sending well wishes!
Hello RA, no wisdom to add to all this (although Patrick Holford espouses high doses of Vit C if you believe him) but just wanted to wish you better very soon and agree with SD that rest is best. Sorry to hear you are feeling so meh.
Hello Regenallotment really sorry to hear you are unwell. I had the original flavour of covid back in 2020 and ended up sick for many many months. But from what I understand this is far less likely once you are vaccinated or previously infected. I had the same nasty new covid infection with streaming nose and fatigue about three weeks ago, so did my 30 year old niece. We both felt really really rough and it took a good two weeks to start feeling wellish again. The fatigue was a horrible symptom especially for those of us who have struggled with horrible thyroid fatigue. Day six is really really early, give your poor bashed up body loads of rest, tlc and good food and it might take a couple of weeks more to get past the covid effects. Wishing you well, now rest like it was an Olympic sport.
I also have just had covid. Started with a bit of a sore throat and developed into fever, massive headache (I could feel the vessels on my scalp inflamed) and what seems like pulsating tinnitus and loud noises? All this improved quite quickly thank goodness. Like you, my mood took a dive and I was in a very dark place for about a week, but gradually everything is getting back to normal and my stamina is slowly increasing.
I think of my health as a very delicate ecosystem and the slightest thing can knock it off balance and I have to start putting things together again! Take care x
Interesting about sound, the day before I had symptoms I was hyper sound sensitive to the point of comedic ear covering at the slightest noise. A colleague had something similar. Our bodies do the strangest of things don’t they 🤷🏽♀️
Hi from the US. This October 6, 2023 article in reference to long cold landed in my inbox today. Hope it may shed some light. Take care. Janet thelancet.com/journals/ecli...
Thanks and hi 👋 from the UK from a little town close to the border between England and Wales. I’ll have a read. The other links here have been very informative. Plus my teaching union advice on long covid has been a good read. Thanks for sharing 🙏
Ah, you poor thing, as so many have said do rest. Once well enough I indulged in good books then when headaches and eyepain went I watched some TV and did lots of interesting cpd and kept reminding myself there was no reason to feel guilty for being too ill to work but enjoying other things. There is evidence that in some people covid does affect the thyroid badly, so you might need more meds for a while, I'm sure if you post a question about covid and thyroid function someone will reply with a link.
I came across your post because I am having a similar experience. A few days of sneezing, super-runny nose, slight cough, headache. I didn’t test but it sound like the symptoms of the most recent COVID variant. Now as the symptoms ease off I feel exhausted.
Are you past all that now? If so, how long did it take?
Some really helpful advice here BTW. So happy to have stumbled upon it!
It was 2 weeks on Monday since I tested positive. Feeling much much better but still have that throat ache I associate with viruses and thyroiditis. I have to say the advice from Venicefan had the most instant impact although I’m also following the quercitin with zinc tip and was already doing vit D etc and upped my B12 jabs along with the complex. Give it time, in the throes of it you feel like you will never recover, it’s awful and did a real number on my mental health and gave me a bonus period I wasn’t expecting. 🌱
I’m glad to hear that. Although congratulations on the extra period, I guess 😘 Yes I watched the Sarah Myhill video earlier. I’ve been off Vitamin D on the advice of my endo. Great! Was planning to retest so I could get advice from the forum before restarting but going back on it now. Will order the salt pipe etc too. And thanks for sharing about the mental health side of it for you. It has definitely knocked me that way too.
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