Found great multi-vitamin with no iodine

[ali2341]

hi everyone i know some people are not a fan of taking multivitamins, but i cant take 10 pills a day of different vitamins as i need a lot. this multi has no iodine and has quality ingredients for the vitmains, has d3 , zinc, magnesium, selenium, b vitamins and more.

reflexnutrition.com/product...

Might help someone who is struggling taking lots of tablets a day.

[Lalatoot]

But what if you are not deficient in some of those vitamins? You will be upsetting a balance by taking them rather than targeting deficiencies..

The tablets contain B12 and Vitamin C - vit c can affect the uptake of b12 if they are taken at the same time.

Also other minerals, such as calcium, phosphorus, and magnesium, can impair the absorption of iron. pharmacytimes.com/view/r587...

The advice from the Mayo Clinic is Do not take zinc supplements and copper, iron, or phosphorus supplements at the same time. It is best to space doses of these products 2 hours apart, to get the full benefit from each dietary supplement.

[ali2341 in reply to Lalatoot]

it has the methyl version of b12, think that is absorbed different from normal b12

[Lalatoot in reply to ali2341]

The absorption is similar though the retention of methyl B12 may be better. However for best results methyl b12 should be taken along with adenosylcobalamin which is the other active form of b12 .

[greygoose in reply to ali2341]

Doesn't matter if it's methyl or cyano, the iron will block the absorption. And, if any does get through, the vit C will stop the body from using it correctly. Vit B12 and vit C should be taken two hours apart.

It also has folic acid, rather than methylfolate. And very small quantities of everything. It's just as rubbish as every other multi, I'm afraid.

[helvella Administrator Thyroid UK]

Thanks for posting - but I am confused!

Active Ingredients:

Biotin, Chromium, Copper, Magnesium, Manganese, Selenium, Vitamin A, Vitamin B1 (Thiamine), Vitamin C (Ascorbic Acid), Zinc

Ingredients:

Coenzyme Q10 / Ubiquinone, Folic Acid, Iron, Multimineral, Multivitamin, Vitamin B12, Vitamin B6, Vitamin D3 (Cholecalciferol), Vitamin K2 (Menaquinone), Zinc

Ingredients:

Magnesium Citrate, hard gelatine Capsule (bovine gelatine, black iron oxide), L-Ascorbic Acid, Bulking Agent (Microcrystalline Cellulose), Green Tea Extract (95% Polyphenols), Grapeseed Extract (95% Proanthocyanidins), Zinc Bisglycinate, L-Choline Bitartrate, L-Selenomethionine (Selenium Yeast), Lycopene (Lyc-O-Mato®), menaquinone-7 (K2VITAL®), Delta Tocotrinols as DeltaGold® (35% total tocotrienols of which 84-92% Delta-Tocotrienol, 8-16 % Gamma-Tocotrinol), Quercetin Dihydrate, Nicotinamide, Pyridoxine Hydrochloride, Riboflavin, Cholecalciferol, Calcium D-Pantothenate, Inositol, Thiamin Hydrochloride, Sodium Borate, Anti-Caking Agent (Magnesium Stearate), Bacillus Coagulans (LactoSpore®), Lutein Esters, Copper Bisglycinate, Coenzyme Q10, Bulking Agent (Maltodextrin), Retinyl Acetate, Manganese Bisglycinate, Piperine (BioPerine®), Bifidobacterium Bifidum, Lactobacillus Acidophillus, Lactobacillus Rhamnosus, Chromium Picolinate, Pteroylmonoglutamic Acid, D-Biotin, Methylcobalamin, Anti-Caking Agent (Calcium Silicate).

REFLEX NUTRITION NEXGEN MULTIVITAMIN

multi Vitamin & MINERAL COMPLEX

Best Before: may 2023 minimum

28 active ingredients

60 CAPS - 30 servings

Amount per serving 2 capsules %NRV*

Vitamin A 800µg 100%

Vitamin D3 25µg 500%

Vitamin K2 11µg 15%

Vitamin C 200mg 250%

Thiamin 12mg 1091%

Riboflavin 10mg 714%

Niacin 20mg 125%

Vitamin B6 10mg 714%

Folic acid 400µg 200%

Vitamin B12 50µg 2000%

Biotin 150µg 300%

Pantothenic acid 10mg 167%

Magnesium 100mg 27%

Iron 6mg 43%

Zinc 15mg 150%

Copper 1000µg 100%

Manganese 1mg 50%

Selenium 55µg 100%

Chromium 100µg 250%

When I try to correlate these lists - I'm afraid I get lost and cannot fully make sense.

[ali2341 in reply to helvella]

sorry not sure what you mean , i have edited the post and linked to main site where it has proper ingredients list

[helvella Administrator Thyroid UK in reply to ali2341]

What I was referring to was having three ingredients lists on one listing!

One says "Active ingredients". But I really cannot understand why some things are in one list, some in two, some in all three lists.

The listing you now link to seems to be more sensible.

[SeasideSusie Remembering]

ali2341

As we are always saying here, there is no good/great multivitamin.

First of all, they generally don't have enough of the active ingredients needed to raise low levels or deficiencies, for example it contains 50mcg B12 and if anyone was low in B12 they'd need at least 1,000mcg.

25mcg D3 = 1,000iu and again this isn't enough to raise a low level, it's just about a maintenance dose for someone with a good level already.

K2 is the correct form (MK7) but at 11mcg it's nowhere near enough, the recommended amount when taking D3 is 90-100mcg.

Magnesium is 100mg and when taking D3 we need the normal amount in a separate magnesium supplement which is 350-450mg.

It contains both zinc and copper. We Hypos tend to be high in one and low in the other and they should be balanced. So it's really not recommended to take either unless we test and know which one we need.

Q10 is 10mg whereas the usual amount in a stand alone supplement is 100-200mg

Pteroylmonoglutamic Acid is, I understand, folic acid and rather than say folic acid, folate or B9 they've disguised it as this rarely seen name, so is it synthetic folic acid which the body needs to convert or is it the bioavailable form methylfolate?

Certain active ingredients shouldn't be taken together.

Vit C and B12 should be taken 2 hours apart because the Vit C can stop the body using B12, this supplement contains both.

Zinc and magnesium shouldn't be taken at the same time.

Zinc and copper shouldn't be taken at the same time as zinc affects absorption of copper.

Vitamins A, D, E and K should not be taken at the same time as they are all fat soluble and will compete with any available fat for absorption. This supplement contains A, D and K.

It also contains iron and this should be taken 2 hours away from any other supplement as it affects their absorption.

So I'm afraid this one, even though it doesn't contain calcium or iodine, still comes under the category of their is no good multivitamin and comes under the category "supplements for the worried well".

[Ellie-Louise in reply to SeasideSusie]

“Vitamins A, D, E and K should not be taken at the same time as they are all fat soluble and will compete with any available fat for absorption.”

So why are we advised to take K2 with D3 if they can’t be taken together?

[SeasideSusie Remembering in reply to Ellie-Louise]

Ellie-Louise

Who has advised you to take them together?

Whenever I respond about D3 and K2 I explain that they are fat soluble and will compete for fat so if both are oil based supplements they will have their own fat so that is OK. If they not, eg one is soft gel and the other tablet or capsule, or both tablet or capsule, then they should be taken at different times of the day and if they are not oil based then they need to be taken with some dietary fat.

Any combined D3/K2 supplement should be checked to see if it is oil based, if not then don't use it.

[Ellie-Louise in reply to SeasideSusie]

I always had the impression from information here that they had to go together so that D is pointed in the right direction. My D is oil based capsule, my K is tablet.

[SeasideSusie Remembering in reply to Ellie-Louise]

Yes, K2 is needed when taking D3 but as above. Nobody would have said they need to be taken at the same time.

[Ellie-Louise in reply to SeasideSusie]

All I said was that I had the impression, that’s probably my mistake then.