Metavive Thyroid

[Flatfred]

Is anyone here on Metavive thyroid replacement. I’m currently on Armour Thyroid and am looking for a cheaper source and Metavive looks promising.

Thanks

[SlowDragon Administrator]

Would you consider levothyroxine plus T3

More endocrinologist are willing to prescribe T3 alongside levothyroxine these days

Email Thyroid UK for list of recommended thyroid specialist endocrinologists who will prescribe T3

...NHS and Private

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[Flatfred in reply to SlowDragon]

Hi. Thanks for the recommendation but I’m never going anywhere near synthetic thyroid meds again. I cannot tell you the problems T4 caused me. Huge negative auto immune response. I was a bad batch from Mercury Pharma and I’m not taking the risk of that happening again.I’ve felt so much better on Armour Thyroid, it’s just the cost which is about 10% of my meagre pension, but I’ll stick with it over synthetics.

Best wishes.

[June25]

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Perhaps if you invited PM's you would get more info about it?

[Flatfred in reply to June25]

? Sorry? Not allowed to talk about it or the strength? Forgive me but what on earth is the point of the forum if we can’t discuss meds.

[SlowDragon Administrator in reply to Flatfred]

Private messages only please

[June25]

I'd have to refer you to an administrator to answer that question fully (edited by admin)

Don't shoot the messenger. I already had previous posts … edited by admin for this reason.

[Hidden]

Hi, Metavive IV works for me, been on it for about 2 years

[Flatfred in reply to Hidden]

Hi. Ok and thanks for the feedback.

[bellehelen in reply to Flatfred]

Works well for me too.

[petalouda in reply to Hidden]

Hi. How much do you take. Is it the only hormone that you take or you make combo.

Thank you?

[Hidden in reply to petalouda]

Hi, I just take Metavive IV, was taking 80mg but last thyroid test came back too low so have increased to 100mg, must book another test asap.

[petalouda in reply to Hidden]

OK about labs, but what about symptoms?

[Flatfred]

Hi June. I do apologise for biting back the way I did. I just find it a bit daft (edited by Admin) However I do understand about not wanting to rock the boat. As usual I’ve had a mixed response with some doing well on Metavive and others not so. Just goes to show we’re not all the same. I cannot in any way tolerate synthetic T4. Being on Armour for the past 7 yrs is the best I’ve felt but the cost is becoming prohibitive. I’ve tired just about every other brand of NDT but just don’t feel as well as when taking Armour so I’m guessing I probably won’t get on too well with Metavive but at a fifth of the cost I’m hoping I do! Apologies again.Best wishes.

[Elainemawby]

Hi Flatfred. I have been taking Metavive for several years and after the initial few months trying to get the doseage right, I now am doing very well on it and feel completely normal again. It's definitely worth a try, good luck!

[petalouda in reply to Elainemawby]

Hi. How much do you take. Is it the only hormone that you take or you make combo.

Thank you?

[Polaris]

Hi Flatfred

I've been fine on 2 x capsules of Metavive II a day for a while now, reduced from 3 after finding optimum dose of B12 as I also have B12Def/PA.

Hope it works for you 🤞🤞

[metamorphica]

Looked at Metavive but was put off by a post i saw somewhere that said about an additive of the new formula that actually interfered with the thyroid. ( i wish i could remember specifics.)

I use Thyrogold which is American and was created by a dr to make NDT more easily available. Its also marketed as a supplement but you'll find lots of positive posts about it here. I usually get 2 bottles and dont get hit with customs but US postal charges are still expensive. Cheaper than Armor though!

Also to note id avoid Thyrovanz, their formula changed during Covid and it was not an improvement.

[Mlinde]

Have you seen this?

salesatdrmyhill.co.uk/metav...

[Polaris in reply to Mlinde]

Thanks v. much for this linkMInde! I tried to order from usual website yesterday, The Natural Health Choice, but gave up after being sent round and round with frustrating password problem 🤦‍♀️

[Mlinde in reply to Polaris]

I just bought some Metavive, waiting on delivery, so no probs.

[Polaris in reply to Mlinde]

From Dr Myhill's site ?

[Mlinde in reply to Polaris]

Yes

[Polaris in reply to Mlinde]

Thank you Mlinde 🤗

[Mlinde in reply to Polaris]

good luck

[Micky7 in reply to Mlinde]

hi, did you start Metavive?It arrived verry quickly in my country..in 4 days..that is really something new for me.

[Mlinde in reply to Micky7]

No, not yet, I wanted to get a fresh blood test first with the levels before I start mixing and matching. I've had the test, just waiting on results.

[FinneUK]

Hi Flatfred , I've been taking 2, (now 1) capsule of Metavive II and my TSH dropped rapidly from 10 to in range but my T4 remained low in range. I'm going for more tests soon. I felt better on Armour but I was several years younger so hard to say!

[ThyroidSuser]

I'm on Metavive - currently taking 120mg (up from 80mg a year ago). I'm absolutely fine on them. I was taking ThyroidS but at the start of Covid couldn't get them from Thailand. Metavive was very easy to transfer to from ThyroidS. I'm SO pleased it's a UK company too. I will NEVER take levothyroxine again - was on 150 & both myself & hubby thought I was dying. I think I had every side effect to the nth degree. Still docs won't prescribe natural thyroid - it's a disgrace! Good luck on changing to them.

[Mlinde in reply to ThyroidSuser]

Well I'm on 125mg of Levo but will cut to 100mg with 1 Metavive II at first to see how it goes.

[Noelnoel in reply to Mlinde]

How did you get on with Metavive

[Mlinde in reply to Noelnoel]

I didn't, it didn't seem to do anything at all, so I gave up on it.

[Noelnoel in reply to Mlinde]

Did you take enough do you think? At the moment my FT4 is low so I’m slowly increasing it

[Mlinde in reply to Noelnoel]

Well, I was mixing it with Levothyroxine (125mcg), so I started off adding 1 Medivive II tab for a couple of weeks but didn't notice any change in symptoms and I didn't want increase the dose.

[Noelnoel in reply to Mlinde]

It’s a shame you decided not to give it longer because with Metavive the changes seem to be subtler and gentler if you like and it can take a good six weeks to be able to say for certain that there’s a lasting and definite change

Not the same the same for everyone though. Sometimes in some people, change takes effect more quickly and not always for the better

[Mlinde in reply to Noelnoel]

The problem lies with the fact that I have no idea how much FT3 the Medivive II contains, so it's impossible to know what kind of dose I need to take. I don't convert FT3 at all well which is why I tried the Medivive. I still have it, so maybe I 'll try it again.

[Noelnoel in reply to Mlinde]

What do you mean when you say you don’t convert T3 well?

[Mlinde in reply to Noelnoel]

Sorry, I meant T4

[Noelnoel in reply to Mlinde]

Well there’s no reason you couldn’t try again when you feel ready or inclined but as Dr Peatfield advised, it must be very carefully and slowly, gauging with every new step/dose increase, how you feel. Only one Met l at a time.If it’s only Met ll you have, open the capsule and take just half at each increase

For some it’s an increase every six weeks, for others it can be more often, even every two weeks. It’s different for everyone. When you start to feel something changing (and you will) you could perhaps decide by how much you can begin phasing out your levo.

Using a combination of what your latest labs showed and how you feel will give you an indication of how to proceed but crucial to remember, irrespective of whether that’s good, bad or optimal, never try to rush the process

The effects of Metavive are usually as said, more subtle and gentle. It’s a mistake to presume nothing’s happening and up the dose because you can’t yet feel the change. Most often it’s a case of waiting and then taking more. Of course there are times when it simply isn’t working, lots of people report that but as with all things thyroid, change for the better can take a long time

Often levo, lio, glandulars/NDT rightly, get blamed for the lack of success but just as often it’s simply our lack of patience

Why don’t you post the question of how to proceed. Lots of people on here take Metavive. Maybe you could ask for responses from people with positive experiences and how they achieved their success

[petalouda in reply to ThyroidSuser]

Hi, what are the results of your labs with this dose? Take another hormone too?

[ThyroidSuser in reply to petalouda]

Hi - my blood results came back as 'normal' from bloods taken nearly 2 wks ago, so I'm sticking with 3 Metavive 1. I tried to get the figures BUT couldn't unless I manage to get a phone call from my doc. I'm writing him a letter today & just hoping he'll phone me soon. I feel a million times better on Metavive then on levothyroxine. I honestly don't think I'd be around today if I had continued with levo. I don't take any other hormone.

[jand123]

Hi it didn’t work for me after coming off WP thyroid. My symptoms came back. My doc put me on T4 plus T3. Now dropped T4 but personally I think I should be back on T4 .

[jand123 in reply to jand123]

I didn’t like synthetic T4 but Thybon T3 seems good

[Polly91]

Hi FlatfredI was on Levothyroxine for nearly 20 years and also tried synthetic T3 for about 6 months but it was hard to get dose right and my FT3 got very high.

I have been on metavive for about 2 years and I feel really good on it. It took a while to get the dose right but once there it’s great. I can now do yoga & circuit training & running again. My sleep is also much improved - I no longer wake up at 2 or 3am. I can sleep for 7-8 hours per night virtually uninterrupted which hasn’t been the case for years.

I take 2 metavive I and 4 metavive 3 per day Ie 6 capsules in total split in 3 doses on an empty stomach (avoiding food for 2 hours before & after) FYI I also take vit D, B complex, zinc, magnesium (and controversially iodine with selenium).

Good luck & if you have any questions let me know

P x

[Mlinde in reply to Polly91]

I'm just about to start on a mix'n'match of T4 (Levo) and Metavive II. I currently take 125mcg of Levo but it doesn't convert well, so I'll start with 100mcg Levo and 1 tab of Metavive II <edited by Admin>

[Polly91 in reply to Mlinde]

I’ve never taken metavive II so don’t know anything about it. <edited by Admin>

FYI I started on Met I and as I got better I switched to a combination.

I took my first Met I in the evening when I first started switching from levo.

Good luck.

[petalouda in reply to Polly91]

Hi, how much do you take?

[Polly91 in reply to petalouda]

Sorry are you asking how much of each (metavive I and met III ) I take ? If so it’s 1 capsule met I and 4 capsules met III.

[petalouda in reply to Polly91]

Is there any reason to mix porcine and bovin?

[Polly91 in reply to petalouda]

Don’t think we can discuss this detail on this group. Feel free to private message me and I can share what I know. It’s not a great deal!!

[Flatfred]

No sure if I’ve gone about this the right way for all to see but I wanted to say a BIG thank you to all that replied. It’s been really helpful and has helped me decide to try Metavive. My latest order for Armour has just arrive, approx 10 days late, so I’ll try to slowly introduce the Met as I reduce the Armour. I’ve got all fingers crossed that I’ll tolerate it and not react as I have to most other brands. Apologies to admin for my lack of understanding.Thanks people.

[Saza in reply to Flatfred]

Stick with it FlatFred; I converted to metavive about a year ago now; it does take a while to get the dosage right but hopefully you'll get there in the end. Best I've consistently felt for years.

[Flatfred in reply to Saza]

Hi. Thanks for the feedback. I’ll slowly swapping over from Armour as it starts to run out. Best I can tell is it’ll take 7-8 Metavive1 to = the 2 grain of Armour. It took a while to get the dose right on Armour so used to that lol.Thanks again.

[Mlinde]

All I can say is, we'll see...

[TRbo]

Yes I’m on it and find it great, take one with breakfast and one other dinner. Better with food.

[reliablerebel]

Bit late to the party Flatfred, but I have been on Metavive a couple of years now. Latest blood test results today are the best they ever have been. Initially I was overmedicated, they were stronger than I thought - then a little undermedicated, and now seem to be just right. And my antibodies are down by 50% so all good. Best of luck on your journey with it!!

[Flatfred]

Thanks for the reply, all very helpful. I’m hoping to reduce the Armour as I introduce the Metavive. Glad it’s worked out well for you.

Cheers

[Lynneypin in reply to Flatfred]

would love to hear how you are doing now Flatfred?