I have been just diagnosed with hypothyroidism under active thyroid. I probably had it 3 years, brain fog, weight gain, loss difficulty, hair loss alot.
I am into Natural Health. My GP wants to see me this week, to put me on thyroxin, what is the best NATURAL THYROID Treatment...????
WP THYROID, OR ARMOUR...
I have ordered supplements aswell, SEE BELOW.however do I need to have the NATURAL THYROID FROM THE DOC TOO...THE WP THYROID , OR ARMOUR
PLEASE HELP.
THANK YOU
CHRISTINE
HIGHER NATURE THYROID FORMULA 60 CAPSULES
AND ALSO HIGHER NATURE OCEAN KELP 300MG 180 CAPSULES, WHICH ARE GOOD TO TAKE TOGETHER.
Are you in the UK? If so it is very likely that you would be able to get Armour, etc, prescribe on the NHS as it is unlicensed here.
There is no "best" NDT, it's what suits the individual. They all have the basic thyroid powder but the fillers differ, and the fillers are synthetic, so even Natural Desiccated Thyroid isn't actually all that natural.
As for HIGHER NATURE THYROID FORMULA 60 CAPSULES
One capsule typically provides:
12.5mg Vitamin C,
15mgNE Niacin,
3.3mg Vitamin B6,
60µg Folic acid,
5µg Vitamin B12,
1.25mg Iron,
25mg Magnesium,
2.5mg Zinc,
30µg Iodine,
1.25mg Manganese,
250µg Copper,
30µg Selenium,
450mg Tyrosine.
This is a multivitamin/mineral. These are generally a waste of time and money. They contain too little of anything to be of help if we have low levels or deficiencies. They tend to contain the least absorbable and cheapest form of active ingredients. They also often contain things we shouldn't supplement with unless tested and found to be deficient. And if it contains iron, then that affects absorption of everything else, iron needs to be taken at least 2 hours away from any other supplements.
This supplement contains folic acid - this is the unconverted form and methylfolate is recommended. As for B12, it doesn't say what form this is, but it's most likely cyanocobalamin because it's cheapest, methylcobalamin is recommended. It contains iodine and this should be tested for and only taken if deficient. And it contains iron so renders everything else pretty useless.
We always advise here to test the important nutrients and supplement low levels or deficiencies at the right dose where necessary. These are the basic nutrient tets:
Vit D
B12
Folate
Ferritin
As for HIGHER NATURE OCEAN KELP 300MG 180 CAPSULES
One tablet typically provides
300mg Kelp (providing 150-360µg Iodine).
That's a large dose of iodine and indeterminate in the amount one capsule gives. The World Health Organisation recommendation adults is 150mcg iodine daily. This is easily obtained from food - milk, yogurt, white fish, scampi:
Thank you for the great information and detailed advice which I really appreciate.
I am in the UK, the message is ambiguous so Natural Dessicated Thyroid IS available here in the UK on NHS prescription, is it safe???..is WP THYROID available in the UK on nhs or just Armour, and which is better???. Would I be taking them for the rest of my life.
Because none of the natural thyroid hormones are licensed in this country, you will not find this medication in the MIMS and the only way you can obtain this is by your doctor prescribing it on a "named-patient" basis.
If your doctor is willing to give you a prescription for a brand of natural thyroid hormone, you should be able to take it to any High Street pharmacy such as Boots, Lloyds etc. any supermarket pharmacy or local independent pharmacy. Ensure that your doctor has written the name of the medication along with the number of grains required and the wording, "for hypothyroidism" on the prescription. Some wholesalers ask for a "letter of clinical need."
So the problem is, finding a doctor who is willing to prescribe an unlicensed medication, they have to take personal responsibility for prescribing it and not many are willing to do that, but there are a few.
is it safe???..
As far as anyone knows. There are many, many people who take NDT, possibly runs into tens of thousands, if not hundreds of thousands, world wide.
is WP THYROID available in the UK on nhs or just Armour
and from page 16 onwards you will find the different NDT brands. Do check out the excipients and you will see that it's only the Thyroid USP powder that is natural, nothing else.
which is better???.
Impossible to say. There is no best brand. It's what suits the individual. What suits Mary might not suit John, and what Freda finds best for her could do nothing for Joan, type of thing.
Would I be taking them for the rest of my life.
If you have an underactive thyroid gland, then for whatever reason it's not working. Unless it is caused by temporary thyroiditis (sometimes post-partum or viral illness) then that's it, it's for life. It replaces a hormone that your body is no longer capable of making enough of itself.
It is unlikely although not absolutely unknown, that you would be successful in being prescribed any NDT. These RMOC guidelines clarify the position: "The prescribing of unlicensed liothyronine and thyroid extract products is not supported."
Where licensed NDTs are prescribed, they would of course, by definition, be deemed to be safe. That isn't to say that NDTs or indeed any other licensed replacement hormone necessarily suits every one.
If you are diagnosed hypothyroid because your thyroid is failing for whatever reason, you will need to make up the deficit or absence of your endogenous hormones, for your lifetime. There are cases where post-partum or post-infection/viral for instance, some people need to be treated only temporarily, but if your thyroid is damaged by say, autoimmune thyroiditis, it isn't reversible/curable - although some say that the autoimmune element can be addressed by lifestyle changes.
ThyroidUK is saying that it might be prescribed on a named patient basis, which in practise, is the same as my saying it is unlikely although not absolutely unknown. There are a number reasons why a drug mightn't be prescribed: cost; there are more suitable/proven first line and/or cheaper alternatives; the GP doesn't believe it is appropriate for that patient; the GP doesn't "believe" in the drug as an effective treatment for a particular condition; it isn't licensed in the UK; it isn't licensed for a particular use; the CCG has black or red-listed it; NICE doesn't recommend it; agencies such as the RMOC don't recommend it; for the GP to prescribe unlicensed imports and/or off-label on a named patient basis obligates him to take on personal responsibility for it - so if something were to go wrong especially where he could have prescribed "safer" licensed alternatives, he may be out on a legal/professional/insurance limb. NDT not being prescribed can be argued, for probably most of those reasons. I had my Liothyronine withdrawn in 2017 after 9 years, and last year my Endo supported my GP in making a named patient basis request to the CCG to reinstate it - it was refused. A GP doesn't have to have the support or permission of the CCG to prescribe on that basis for either T3 or NDT, but increasingly they are not going against their CCG either; and neither do they have to accede to the patient's request to do so. So if you have a GP that thinks for instance, that Levothyroxine is the gold standard of treatment and NDTs are the devil's work, they aren't going to prescribe, especially when the RMOC and CCGs are leaning towards no as well.
Hi! Have you heard of Dr Izabella Wentz? She is very knowledgeable when it comes to thyroid disorders/ diseases. I have been diagnosed with Hashimotos disease (the autoimmune hypothyroidism) and it's all the symptoms you described but since mine has no cure I treat the best way i can with taking supplements, cutting gluten out of my diet, it's like an experiment on yourself which isn't fun plus a lot of time money I've wasted. I can say selenium made a difference with mood. If u have any questions I'm here!
Hi Sorry for the late reply. As far as noticing a difference in my energy level, which I have no energy to begin with ugh, I have adrenal fatigue and there is a pretty good supplement for that. I buy it from Amazon it's called Active Adrenal. It comes liquid form w eyedropper. I shake well then fill dropper, hold it under my tounge for about 20 sec.
My cortisol levels are very low as well. If I could say for sure that there's something I can 100% say helps, I can't 😔
I would just point out that Active Adrenal is a B Complex (B5, B6, B12) with Vit C and magnesium. It also contains Ashwagandha and Rhodiola Root - 2 adaptogenic herbs which are known to lower cortisol. If you have low cortisol already, this supplement wont help.
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