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Caution note about the use of B12 (sublingual) tablets, sprays and patches

About oral supplementation:

We see a big problem whenever oral B12 supplementation is discussed and in this way we would like to make a contribution with information for our foreign website visitors:

Important note and diclaimer: we do not sell vitamins, vit B12 injections, ampoules, (sublingual) tablets, nor do external parties, companies and such financially support us.

Although some scientists accepts that oral supplementation has been proven as equal as injections, we see in clinical practice that oral supplementation is inferior compared to injections and we also think their efficacy has not been scientifically established. The reason: almost all research is not, or hardly, linked to the symptoms, but only to the raising of B12 blood serum values. And this is precisely which is meaningless after supplementation, which is also acknowledged by the NHG: “We do not see that testing the B12 serum level after receiving supplementation as useful”. Research and literature that warns us of the more limited effect of tablets, is pushed aside and ignored[2]. We think the efficacy of tablets is not scientifically validated and we see the consequences directly in our clinical practice.

Tablets may be used as additional supplementation (if you have a long wait between injections and if your initial blood levels have been determined).

Research shows, and that is also our clinical experience, that hydroxocobalamin i.m. (or deep s.c.) injections are the most proven superior treatment in B12 deficiency, certainly with neurological and psychological symptoms. Hydroxocobalamin facilitates both pathways (conversion to methylcobalamin and adenosylcobalamin) and it works in a more natural way.

In published articles you read: “In Sweden they have been working with high dosage tablets for years, with great satisfaction”.

But there has never been a proper scientific investigation in Sweden about the efficacy of tablets, nor has there been an investigation that patients are “satisfied with their oral treatment”. With the same unscientific aproach, I can tell you that we know Swedisch physicians / psychiatrists who don’t want to use oral B12 supps in case of severe neuro psychiatric symptoms due to B12 deficiency.

Recovery from a B12 deficiency with substantial symptoms unfortunately requires time and patience with ups and downs. It is very important for you and your physician, to monitor your symptoms properly[5].

© Clara Plattel | B12 Research Group NL, Rotterdam dec 2015

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[1] NHG = Nederlands Huisartsen Genootschap -> Dutch College of General Practitioners

[2] (Chevalier, 2007; A. Freeman, Wilson, Foulds, & Phillips, 1978; A. G. Freeman, 1999; Hunt, Harrington, & Robinson, 2014; Kaplan, Mamer, & Hoffer, 2001; Regland et al., 2015; Rundles, 1946; L. R. Solomon, 2006; L. R. R. Solomon, 2004) (British Society for Haematology, 2014; Carmel, 2008; Schrier, 2014)

[3] b12researchgroup.files.word...

[4] Dutch GP protocol: nhg.org/standpunten/nhg-sta...

[5] (Carmel, 2008)

Literature:

British Society for Haematology, T. (2014). Guidelines for the diagnosis and treatment of Cobalamin and Folate disorders. The British Committee for Standards in Haematology (BCSH) bcshguidelines.com/document....

Carmel, R. (2008). How I treat cobalamin (vitamin B12) deficiency. Blood, 112(6), 2214-2221. Retrieved from bloodjournal.org/content/11...

Chevalier, P. (2007). Vitamine B12 oraal of intramusculair toedienen? Minerva, Tijdschrift voor Evidence-Based Medicine, 6(2), 2.

Freeman, A., Wilson, J., Foulds, W., & Phillips, C. (1978). Why has cyanocobalamin not been withdrawn? Lancet, 1, 777 – 778.

Freeman, A. G. (1999). Oral or parenteral therapy for vitamin B12 deficiency. The Lancet, 353(9150), 410-411. doi:dx.doi.org/10.1016/S0140-67...

Hunt, A., Harrington, D., & Robinson, S. (2014). Vitamin B12 deficiency, Clinical review. 349. doi:10.1136/bmj.g5226

Kaplan, L. N., Mamer, O. A., & Hoffer, L. J. (2001). Parental vitamin B[sub12] reduces hyperhomocysteinemia in end-stage renal disease. Clinical & Investigative Medicine, 24(1), 5. Retrieved from search.ebscohost.com/login....

Regland, B., Forsmark, S., Halaouate, L., Matousek, M., Peilot, B., Zachrisson, O., & Gottfries, C.-G. (2015). Response to Vitamin B12 and Folic Acid in Myalgic Encephalomyelitis and Fibromyalgia. PLoS ONE, 10(4), e0124648. doi:10.1371/journal.pone.0124648

Rundles, R. W. (1946). PROGNOSIS IN THE NEUROLOGIC MANIFESTATIONS OF PERNICIOUS ANEMIA. Blood, 1(3), 209-219. Retrieved from bloodjournal.org/content/1/...

Schrier, S. L. (2014, 2014). Up To Date: Diagnosis and treatment of vitamin B12 and folate deficiency. Retrieved from uptodate.com

Solomon, L. R. (2006). Oral pharmacologic doses of cobalamin may not be as effective as parenteral cobalamin therapy in reversing hyperhomocystinemia and methylmalonic acidemia in apparently normal subjects. (0141-9854 (Print)).

Solomon, L. R. R. (2004). Oral vitamin B12 therapy: a cautionary note. Blood, 103(7), 2863-2863.

We increasingly see (commercial) web sites appear by non-medical people, who use our name, personal names, texts and data to promote their own services and especially their products (sublingual) tablets as the solution to your problems. Some sites/people suggest that we work together and/or support these people. This is doubly annoying because it generates the impression that we also support their way of working and their treatments. This is absolutely NOT the case.

Even worse: their treatment methods often endanger the treatment of B12 deficient patients. These patients eventually present themselves at our polyclinic (there is a waiting list) with many symptoms because the general practitioner will not help them with such (false) high B12 values caused by the tablets.

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greygoose

Yes, well, we don't all have a choice, do we. :)

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Treepie

Ncely put GG

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greygoose in reply to Treepie

Thank you, Treepie. :)

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BadHare

Good article, thanks!!!

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Hillwoman

To anyone who reads this post and is in need of B12 injections, but who cannot afford to buy it in this form, I strongly recommend the B12d Support Group. This is a small UK charity that exists to provide injectable cobalamin for self-treatment to anyone suffering the symptoms of B12 deficiency (whatever the origin) and whose doctors have refused to help them. They also provide information on their website.

b12d.org/

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BadHare in reply to Hillwoman

Thanks Hillwoman !

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Hillwoman in reply to BadHare

You're welcome. :-)

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G2G2

Thanks for posting. I'd prefer injections, but my doctor doesn't agree. In the US, injectable B12 can't be purchased without an Rx. Even with an Rx, it's expensive. Interesting they recommend cobalamin form. I've read methyl is better.

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Hillwoman in reply to G2G2

Cobalamin is the B12 vitamin, and there exist many variants of it, not all of which are biologically active in humans. The forms available as tablet supplements and injections are hydroxocobalamin, cyanocobalamin, methylcobalamin and adenosylcobalamin. Cyanocobalamin is an artificial form.

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G2G2 in reply to Hillwoman

Thanks.

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Gambit62 in reply to Hillwoman

all the B12 available for tablets and injections is artificial

There are two forms that are used by processes in your cells - methyl and adenosyl - but the way your body metabolises B12 involves separating it from the proteins that make it cyano/hydroxo/methyl/adenosyl before it can pass into your cell and then recombining it with either methyl or adenosyl.

There is one rare genetic variant that is known to cause problems processing methylcobalamin to form adenosyl cobalamin - no known variants involved in processing cyano/hydrox to both methyl and adenosyl.

which form of B12 suits which person varies hugely - probably down to genetics but not an area that is understood. some find methyl works best for them. many find that either cyano or hydroxo work better for them. Both these forms are more stable than methyl and adenosyl.

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Hillwoman in reply to Gambit62

Thanks, but if you're responding to my comment, rather than directly to the OP, as you seem to be, then you will know quite well that I'm aware of all you say.

Cyanocobalamin is not one of the forms found in food, only in supplements, and so it is artificial in that sense.

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Treepie in reply to G2G2

There are two forms more easily absorbed than cyano ,one is methyl but cannot recall the other.

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Marz in reply to Treepie

My jabs are Hydroxocobalamin .... 😊

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