Thyrovanz

[Marie8282]

I am running into a big dilemma with not being able to get the correct dose of Nature-Throid anymore (been on 5 grain for 3 years & it has suddenly been dripped to 3 grain) bc I cannot afford my functional med Dr anymore. I'm going to give Thyrovanz a try, that way I can dose it myself.

Anyone that has experience with Thyrovanz, 1st of all he is it working for you? 2nd should I slowly switch grain by grain, from Nature-Throid to Thyrovanz, or should I just go ahead & replace it completely right away?

Also, in case Thyrovanz doesn't work for me, can anyone please message me as to how I go about getting Nature-Throid with out a prescription.

Thank you all very much in advance ❤

[greygoose]

Thyrovanz is just a glandular, no or very little hormone. It is not NDT, it is a nutritional supplement. Going from 5 grains of Nature-Throid to that will probably make you very ill.

[Marie8282 in reply to greygoose]

Thank u for the response. I keep hearing some say it is grandiose & some say it isn't so I'm really confused. But I've been on Thyrovanz for about a week now & feeling awful so I think you're right :/

[greygoose in reply to Marie8282]

I certainly am right about it's hormone content, but whether it helps some people on another level, I don't know. It could have a placebo effect. Not that I have anything against the placebo effect - whatever floats your boat! But, it isn't a substitution for Nature-Throid.

[belogical in reply to greygoose]

It's a thyroid that is desiccated and natural... so it is an NDT. There are people on the FB group Thyrovanz Users who have NO thyroid and are doing well on it, so how would that work if there was no hormone content?

[greygoose in reply to belogical]

It wouldn't. But, then, I wouldn't trust a Thyrovanz facebook page for factual content. Thyrovanz themselves call it a 'glandular' and 'thyroid support':

Thyrovanz is Bovine Thyroid Glandular in its purest and most original form - made for people who require thyroid support but don’t want all the fillers.

Taken from their factbook page. They make no mention of hormone content, and in general, glandulars do not contain hormones or they would be prescription only.

Just being 'desiccated' and 'natural' doesn't in itself qualify a supplement as being what we know as NDT. The real NDTs, like Armour and Erfa, which state their hormone content, are thyroid hormone replacement, not glandulars and not thyroid 'support'.

[belogical in reply to greygoose]

The FB page is run by users, not the company, there are over 3000 of us and some who are post TT only use Thyrovanz. They don't advertise hormone content because it is an over the counter supplement, but I can assure you it is there, otherwise there wouldn't be people like myself transitioning from Levo to it very successfully, others from Armour and Naturethroid. There are a number of other NDT products on the market that are also classed as supplements but work well too.

[greygoose in reply to belogical]

OK, but it's a bit of a risk to take when you don't know the actual hormone content.

[belogical in reply to greygoose]

The dosages are pretty close to Armour, but I agree that it is better to know them.

[Cyndi247 in reply to greygoose]

I take Thyroidgold which is also advertised as a supplement. The creator called it a supplement simply because if he revealed its contents he would have to require a prescription for it. He did so because he wanted people to have access to an NDT because of the problems with getting proper treatment through a doctor...due to their ignorance. I have no thyroid and do well on TG 300mcg. It is made from bovine thyroid. Thyrovanz is also a full NDT made from bovine hormones but sold as a supplement.

[greygoose in reply to Cyndi247]

Do you realise this thread is 3 years old?

[Paletree in reply to greygoose]

So what? Many people (like myself here) study posts on this forum instead of simply asking the (same) question (over and over again). Hence, thank you for replying to this post so I can read and learn ☺️

[greygoose in reply to Paletree]

So, there's not much point in replying to a post that is three years old. The people concerned have more than likely moved on. The proof is that the OP has not replied. So, if Cyndi247 was hoping for recognition of her comment, she's going to be disappointed. I think it's only fair to warn people of that - people often don't realise how old the post is they're replying to.

I was NOT suggesting that the post was of no use, or should be deleted or anything like that. Just be aware that this is an old post. That's what.

[Paletree in reply to greygoose]

There is a point to me. I read her reply and it has my recognition, although 4 months late. Cindy didn't ask another question, but wrote about her experience. Anyway, I dont want to seem like I want to prove my point or to argue, but just to say that every post and reply has its purpose and I am grateful to read it.

[greygoose in reply to Paletree]

Am I arguing? No. I was explaining. Just wondered why you felt it necessary to bring it up in the first place.

[OnOui in reply to Paletree]

And now I'm here 10 months later, reading the original content and appreciating any new replies. 😊

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This information is available on the website of an online pharmacy:

Please note that Nature-Throid is no longer available in 4 grain and 5 grain strengths. These strengths have been discontinued by the manufacturer.

[108Optimist]

5 grains of nature throid is 38x5 t4 and 9x5 t3 isn't it?

So that's 190mcg t4 and 45mcg t3.

We don't know how much is in thyrovanz but guesstimates suggest a 300mg cap provides 100mcg t4 and 25mcg t3.

So you would need 2×300mg thyrovanz a day to provide 200 mcg t3 and 50mcg t4.

How much vanz were you taking? ?

[Serendipitious in reply to 108Optimist]

108Optimist,

How do you know how much T4 and T3 are in Thyrovanz? That sounds similar to the amounts of thyroid hormone that are apparently in ThyroGold. Are you basing it on ThyroGold?

[108Optimist in reply to Serendipitious]

I have zero idea how much in it. It's yes based on the gold, and from getting guestimates from the vanz people. Eg asking them. ..if I take this much t4 and t3 normally, how much vanz? And they come back with a range of suggestion that seems similar to gold.

[jojobaby in reply to 108Optimist]

This is a bit confusing to me..I read that 100mg is equivalent to 1grain (65mg) of Naturethroid. Does that sound right to you? I'm converting from 1 1/4 grain (81.25mg) Naturethroid so I would take a little more than 100mg Thyrovanz a day?

[108Optimist in reply to jojobaby]

Hiya Jojo.

In my guesstimate, I think it's not far off.

300mg vanz is maybe 100mcg t4 25 mcg t3.

So 100 mcg vanz woukd be 33.3 mcg t4 and 8.3mcg t3.

1 grain contains 38mcg t4 9 mcg t3

1.25 grains has 47.5 mcg t4 and 11.25 mcg t3

So actually a 150mg thyrovanz cap which maybe contains 50mcg t4 12.5 mcg t3 is quite near.

As we don't know exactly, the only way to find out is start somewhere and test levels after 4 weeks ish.

You have calculated correctly. It is confusing! !!! X

[jojobaby in reply to 108Optimist]

Thank you!! I gave it a week but felt so horrible I couldn't even barely function. That was so awful!! Had to have my mom ship me some of her Synthroid (unable to get my dosage at the moment for Naturethroid). I did notice my hair stopped coming out so much when I brush it etc. Other than that it was really not working.

[108Optimist in reply to jojobaby]

Thats a shame. It takes two weeks for Vanz to get into my system, but it sounds like nature throid is your winner. Hope you get some soon

[Nikissilly77]

i am also experiencing horrible thyroid dysfunction on levo 75 mcg...have upped over last 2 years with no relief and only worsening. dr will not switch to NDT. can anyone tell how to get without rx?

[Witsend]

Just about to start this cod do with some help. X

[Witsend]

My twin lives in NZ and has Hashimotos. She has been on this for 3 years and swears by it. I have been on Levo for 35 years and at present have thyroglobulin antobodies of over 4000 plus very low levels of Vit D, B12 and Folate. I found this out my having a private blood test with Medichecks. My GP has refused to do anything. Clearly I'm not converting T3 to T4 and at present have a huge problem. Can't get any help from anybody here unless I pay a Functional Practioner. I'm going to give it a go it can't get any worse. Look at the Thyrovanz Group NZ. It's very I formative and there are 1000's who can advise you.

[dizzy1979 in reply to Witsend]

How did you get on with the Thyrovanz ? I’d be really interested to know, as I’m contemplating switching.