Goitre question....

[Cooper74]

Hi I've just popped over from B12 site as some members have mentioned that hypothyroidism and low B12 often go hand in hand/symptoms similar. I wondered if a goitre is always a symptom of hypothyroidism or is it possible to not have that? I've checked and can't feel any lumps or bumps but you know what it's like - you don't pay attention to your neck area until someone mentions that and then you can't work out if your neck area has always looked like it does or whether the area is larger than normal lol! I've not had full thyroid test, just TSH and free T4 both of which were within range. Desperately want an answer as to why I feel so pants!

Levels:

TSH 2.74 (13/5/16) 2.41 (3/2/16) 2.25 (2/9/14) - range 0.54-4.25

Free T4 11.2 (13/5/16) 14.2 (2/9/14) - range 8-16 and 11-22 for 2/9/14 test

B12 215 range 147-840

Vitamin D -0.4 range 0.5+

Folate 6.8 range 3.1-19.9

Ferritin 42 (13/5/16) 73 (2/9/14) range 11-307 and 13-150 for 2-9/14 test

MCV 94 (5/5/16) 92 (2/9/14) range 80-100

Not sure what if any other results are applicable.

[bluebug]

No need to have a goitre.

Not everyone with low B12 has hypothyroidism and vice versa.

Edit your post and post up your results as the ranges are deliberately high, in my view, partly for political reasons and partly due to ignorance.

Also if you got results for ferritin, vitamin D and folate post those as well. If you don't have result for these then get tested for them as low levels of these will make you feel terrible as well.

[Cooper74 in reply to bluebug]

Edited

[bluebug in reply to Cooper74]

Folate is too low - should be mid-range or higher

Ferritin is too low - should be mid-range or higher.

Vitamin D is too low - never seen that range but it is clear it's too low.

All are lower enough to make you feel terrible. Levels of vitamin D and ferritin that low can cause hair loss.

Are you taking supplements for them?

Your TSH indicates your thyroid is starting to struggle.

[Cooper74 in reply to bluebug]

Hi I'm not 100% sure of D range as receptionist wasn't too clear and brain wasn't functioning properly to clarify. Have bought a folic acid and iron tab to take and need to get Vit D as well but yes I'm feeling absolutely awful at mo - no energy, spend most of day in bed and just feel so dizzy/disorientated and breathless if I exert myself - if this is old age, kill me now!!

[Cooper74 in reply to Cooper74]

If thyroid is starting to struggle is there any benefit in being tested privately for T3 etc and antibodies as GP unlikely to do further tests as they are in range.

[Marz in reply to Cooper74]

.. there would be great benefit from having tests done privately as it may explain the low numbers.

thyroiduk.org.uk/tuk/testin...

[bluebug in reply to Cooper74]

With the vitamin D as it's below range you should talk to a GP and not just buy supplements. Simply because as your range is so not a normal one you may not buy supplements with high enough D3 in them.

[Cooper74 in reply to bluebug]

Thanks I'm not sure exactly what the range was - I know it was 0.5 to something but can't remember what the upper limit was. Will collect results tomorrow when i go in for next jab. GP just advised to buy OTC Vit D.

[Clutter]

Cooper74,

Normal is a very broad range. Ask for a copy of your your thyroid results and ranges and post them in a new question for comment. If ferritin, vitamin D, B12 and folate have been tested post those results and ranges too.

Goitre is enlargement of the thyroid gland. Your GP should palpate your neck and throat and if any lumps are detected should order an ultrasound scan to check the condition and size of your thyroid gland.

Goitre can occur due to hyper and hypo thyroidism. In hyperthyroid patients it is usually due to high levels of T4 causing enlargement, in hypothyroidism it is often due to high TSH flogging the thyroid gland to produce more T4. Developement of goitre can also be idiopathic.

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I am not a medical professional and this information is not intended to be a substitute for medical guidance from your own doctor. Please check with your personal physician before applying any of these suggestions.

[Cooper74]

Sorry silly receptionist wasn't reading correct figures for Vit D - actual reading was 31 nmol so borderline deficient as less than 30 is deficient, 30-50 inadequate and more than 50 is sufficient!

[Marz in reply to Cooper74]

You need to be taking at least 5000 IU's daily of D3. Take it with something fatty as D3 is fat soluble. You will also need some VitK2 - to ensure excess calcium is directed to your bones and not left in the arteries. VitD improves the uptake of calcium from foods.

grassrootshealth.net

Look at the above site to see how you dose according to results. Look out for how to convert from nmol/L to ng/L. Your result is about 12 - yikes !