Vitamin D, Vitamin K2 and Calcium

[stiltzski]

I have been trying to get to grips with these topics today, thanks to some very useful information from Marz (after I posted about the calcification in my shoulder).

In my googling, I came across this article which members may find useful:

articles.mercola.com/sites/...

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Interesting reading, thanks for posting x

[Postblank]

Ironically, I discussed vits d, k2, magnesium and calcium with my GP today and came across that and many other articles explaining the importance of k2 that I had no knowledge of. Very interesting indeed. I'm starting to feel there might be light at the end of my tunnel.

[Marz]

healthunlocked.com/thyroidu.......

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There is nothing in the literature to confirm Vit K2 helps with Vit D absorption.

We get a lot of people saying the same thing at work, and iv carried out research.

Mercola does not have any references re this, and the companies we use for our supplements also say the same thing.

Vit K helps with Calcium absorption.

There have been studied to see if Vit K 2 is essential for Vit D, and the outcome has been inconclusive.

I would not believe everything Mercola says

[greygoose in reply to Hidden]

Monica, if Mercola has no reference to vit K2 NOT aiding absorption of vit D3, that's because it's NOT what he's talking about.

But, if you could show me anywhere in his articles where he says that vit K2 does aid absorption of vit D3, I would be interested in reading it.

No-one but no-one, to my knowledge, has ever suggested that vit K2 helps absorb vit D3. It just isn't an issue as far as we're concerned.

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Hey Greygoose

It's in the link Marz posted earler

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we are all in the same boat, looking for help and answers, however I feel with you, everything I say, you have to contradict, no problem. However please do not be aggressive about it.

I have found this forum helpful, and as an NT with a Congenital Hypothyroidism condition, I like to pass my learned knowledge to the forum users, and l learn a lot

[greygoose in reply to Hidden]

I wasn't aware that I was being agressive. If I came across that way, I apologise.

And as all you've ever said is that K2 doesn't help vit D3 absorption, I suppose I do contradict everything you say. But perhaps if you said something else, I might agree with it.

I just feel that getting obsessed with non-issues is going to confuse people who are just starting out on this journey. And we Don't want that, do we?

[Marz in reply to Hidden]

Hi Monica01 - I have re-read the article by Mercola and cannot see where it is stated that K2 aids in the absorption of D3. No one - Greygoose or me or anyone else on this forum has implicated such a thing. We ALL know that D3 improves the production of Calcium and that K2 directs it to the correct place. There seems to be some confusion. You have repeatedly commented that K2 does not aid the absorption of D3 - but no-one has said it does. Confusion reigns and we all get wet Greygoose is NOT being aggressive - but frustrated - as you have held this line in more than one thread....

We may not be NT's but we are both very bright - experienced and knowledgeable - click onto our names - read our posts - our profiles and have another think

In another thread I asked you if the book you suggested talked about TH1 and TH2 - Your Reply ...No he does not talk about thyroid. My Reply - Well TH1 and TH2 is about auto-immunity - Your reply - Yes I know....... So why did you think my question about TH1 and TH2 was about thyroid if you are so well informed - or perhaps you mis-understood. I was interested in the fact that if you are TH1 dominant then VitD is not for you - or me - or anyone !

Confused.com

[Hidden in reply to Marz]

Hi Marz

Would you do me a favour and read the article again. I know you are both intelligent, however as I said no need to be aggressive. I'm getting fed up with the constant aggression.

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Mercola article

"Health Effects of Vitamin K2 Deficiency

Vitamin K2 is an important adjunct to vitamin D, without which vitamin D cannot work properly. K2's biological action is also impaired by a lack of vitamin D, so you really need to consider these two nutrients together.

This means that if you take high doses of oral vitamin D you need to remember to also increase your vitamin K2 intake from either food or a MK-7 supplement. Failing to do so could cause harm, as without K2, your body will not be able to complete the transport of calcium into the proper areas, and arterial calcification could set in."

[greygoose in reply to Hidden]

But Monica, saying they work together is not saying that K2 is necessary for the absorption of D3. They work to gether with the calcium, as he says, to transport the calcium into the bones. There is no mention of absorption. Vit A, vit E, magnesium, calcium, boron, all work with vit D3, but that does not mean that they are necessary for the absorption of D3.

And I'm sorry you think we're being aggressive, but honestly, questioning what you say is not aggression. It's normal conversation. I could say more on the subject of aggression, but I won't. It's just the normal cut and thrust of life on a forum, that's how they work. If somebody doesn't agree with somebody, they say so. But if you think that just disagreeing with you is 'aggression', then I Don't know what we can do for you.

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Do you know what lets leave it now. We are clearly having 2 difference conversations.

I found your last statement very patrionising.

I think I will

Decide to stay clear of you, with due respect. 😎

[greygoose in reply to Hidden]

Fine by me. Only trying to help. And I really Don't see how you can say we're having two different conversations... But, let's leave it, like you said.

[madge1979]

some of us are ill and appreciate the knowledge of others ...

who have learned before us , unfortunately through their own health issues.

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[Treepie]

I will join the fray .Monica the quote you gave does not support your cause but rather confirms Marz and Goosey's interpretation.