Vitamin D and Calcium dosage

[Foggy73]

I have Hashimoto's and I also have a low Vitamin D which is 48 (range 50 - 150) and also slightly low Calcium (I can't remember the figures of the top of my head). Therefore I have been prescribed Adcal as it contains both. The Adcal is 1500mg / 400 ui. What dosage of Vitamin D should I be taking?

[Clutter]

Foggy, I think 5,000iu D3 daily for 3 months and then reduce to 5,000iu alternate days until April when ultraviolet levels can stimulate vitD.

Take AdCal and D3 4 hours away from Levothyroxine and check the PIL for some foods AdCal needs to be taken a couple of hours away from.

[Foggy73 in reply to Clutter]

Hi Clutter. Can I still take the Adcal and top it up with Vit D tablets?

[Clutter in reply to Foggy73]

Foggy, yes, 400iu in Adcal is an infant's dose and won't be any help.

[Marz]

I was under the impression that when taking good levels of D - that the calcium is naturally increased. Hence why it is suggested that taking VitK2 is a good idea when taking D as it directs the calcium into the bones and teeth where it is needed. Leving it to circulate in the arteries is not so good !

Am sure someone will correct me if I am wrong.... I have also read that the calcium molecules in some supplements are too big to be readily absorbed.

[Nualabula in reply to Marz]

Yes Marz I agree..I have low vit d and was prescribed fultium high dose for six weeks and was supposed to follow that with Adcal..My low calcium increased naturally when my vit d levels were optimal..I have read also that taking too calcium supplements can be problematic. I now take 40000iu fultium per day. My calcium has only ever been out of range when my vit d decreased.

[greygoose in reply to Marz]

I agree with both of you. Taking calcium suppléments really is not a good idea. It can cause all sorts of problems. And if your doctor is worried about your bones, he should know that calcium is only one of the minerals necessary for strong bones - but they all fixate on calcium...

Personally, I would take a decent dose of D3, and add about 350 magnesium, and a little zinc + vit K2. That will raise your calcium naturally, and not put you at risk of a heart attack. And will give your bones more of the minerals they need.

Remember, doctors know nothing about nutrients.

[Foggy73 in reply to greygoose]

Thank you Grey goose. I will get the necessary vitamins tomorrow from Holland and Barratt

[greygoose in reply to Foggy73]

I hope they help. But do read the ingrédients, H&B often use soy oïl.

[Foggy73 in reply to greygoose]

Is there an issue with soy oil? What do I need to look for or avoid in the ingredients?

[greygoose in reply to Foggy73]

There's a big issue with all forms of soy. You should avoid it like the plague! Apart from that, it dépends if you're sensitive to anything. Some pills have accacia powder as a filler, and that doesn't suit a lot of people. It's all very individuel. But soy is a no for everyone.

[Foggy73 in reply to greygoose]

Thanks Greygoose. I'm determined to feel better

[greygoose in reply to Foggy73]

That's the ticket! And I'm sure you will!

[Foggy73 in reply to greygoose]

It's difficult to know if its my Hashimoto's being under treated or my Vit D is causing all my symptoms. Either way its worth boosting everything!!

[greygoose in reply to Foggy73]

Well, getting the right tests would show you that. You Don't want to over-dose on either of them.

[Foggy73 in reply to greygoose]

I'm having my Thyroid Tesed again in 4 weeks and I will fast and not take my Levothyroxine until afterwards (never don't this before so I will be interested to see what difference it makes to my results) but I'm not sure if they will do T3 again as my Dr feels it was OK in March!! I'm seeing her before the blood tests so I will push to let them test it again. Thanks again for your help

[greygoose in reply to Foggy73]

Is she not aware that things can change drastically in six months? Besides, what is her definition of 'OK'? If it was at the bottom of the range, then it wasn't 'ok' at all.

[Foggy73 in reply to greygoose]

Free T3 = 4.9 pmol/L (range 3.10 - 6.80)

[greygoose in reply to Foggy73]

Well, that's only just mid-range. And as you had symptoms, it could probably do with being a lot higher. But it could still have changed drastically since March.

[Foggy73 in reply to greygoose]

Just found it was July

[greygoose in reply to Foggy73]

Even, so...

[Polly91 in reply to greygoose]

Hi greygoose

why is soy so bad? I thought soy & edamame was good ? Especially for menopausal women. I thought they would help for osteopenia rather than take HRT? (Calcium & Vit D & magnesium too)

Thanks!

[greygoose in reply to Polly91]

Soy works against the thyroid in two ways.

1) It impedes the up-take of iodine by the thyroid gland, so that it can't make thyroid hormone.

2) It impedes the up-take of thyroid hormone by the cells. So, you could have good levels in the blood, but still be hypo because it's not getting into the cells.

I've never read anything good about soy. It is not a health food.

[Polly91 in reply to greygoose]

V interesting grey goose

I started HRT evoconti patches in Feb but came off in April as it gave me brain fog &I gained weight. So I started eating edamame which are high in soya. I wonder if this has been the start of my problems? Ie reduced thyroid absorption?

[greygoose in reply to Polly91]

Edamame is soya. I don't know if it was the start of your problems, but it certainly won't have helped.

However, reading through your last post, you say you have a TSH of over 3. Eating soy whilst taking 75 mcg levo shouldn't affect your TSH to that extent, you're just under-medicated. But, come off the soy and see what happens.

[Polly91 in reply to greygoose]

I agree I am probably under medicated & edamame & HRT probably only compounded the low levels.

I saw your response to another post a few years ago about taking vitamins D, magnesium vit K. I actually do take these. Sorry if you already answered this but can vitD be taken on an empty stomach (a few hours after levo) or is it better absorbed with food?

Thanks

[greygoose in reply to Polly91]

It's better absorbed with fatty food, like a salad with lots of olive oil, bread and butter, or something cooked with fat. Taking on an empty stomach is not a good idea, I don't think. But it should be four hours after levo.

[Polly91 in reply to greygoose]

Great thank you for this. I will not take on an empty stomach.

[greygoose in reply to Polly91]

You're welcome.

[Agik]

A lot of info here: vitamindcouncil.org/about-v...

[Foggy73 in reply to Agik]

Thank you Agik