Currently on Naturethroid, should I switch to Thiroyd or T3 only?

[cc120]

I am currently on Naturethroid, first two weeks on 30mg, had some energy, but despite gradually increasing, that level of energy never returned. I was under a great deal of stress at around that time, so perhaps that impaired the effect.

I did take and inject supplements to help to raise B12, folate, iron, ferritin, calcium, vit c, vit d3 for 3 months before starting on Naturethroid.

I decided, for financial reasons to try Thiroyd, when my Naturethroid was used up and also as someone on the forum said that both Naturethroid and Thiroyd agreed with them, whereas other brands did not.

But now I’m wondering whether I should buy Thiroyd or just T3, as many on the forum seem to be helped more by T3 than NDT. Was planning to get Thiroyd first, then add T3 later, but as finances are so limited, if T3 is going to work better, I will just go for that, any comments appreciated?

[Clutter]

CC, How much Nature Throid are you taking now?

[cc120 in reply to Clutter]

Hi Clutter, am up to approx 100mg (1 and half grain) a day, taken in the morning, 2 to 4 hours, before I get up.

[Clutter in reply to cc120]

CC, you may need an increase. Try an extra 1/2 grain about 6/8 hours after your first dose.

Try Thiroyd or Thyroid-S as a cheaper alternative to Nature Throid and see how you do before adding in T3 or going T3 only.

[cc120 in reply to Clutter]

Hi Clutter, thank you very much. I will follow your advice re: Thiroyd before T3. In regards to your advice of taking half grain 6 to 8 hours after first dose, brings me to another quandary I have. Because I'm also taking ferrous fumarate (iron) to ensure levels are up in order for the body to utilise thyroxine, and calcium as was low in this. As NDT needs to be taken 4 hours away from iron and calcium, I take NDT in the morning, or 2 to 4 hours before I get up. Then 4 hours away take iron and folate on an empty stomach, then calcium 1 hour after iron, with all other supplements and again in the evening (2 x 400mg). So to take half grain of NDT in the evening is difficult if needs to be kept away from calcium. If no other possibilities, perhaps I could just add the half a grain with the rest of the NDT dose in the morning?

[Clutter in reply to cc120]

CC, if you can't find a 4 hour window away from Calcium and iron to take the extra 1/2 grain take it with your morning dose of NDT.

[cc120 in reply to Clutter]

Thank you Clutter, and again for solving the Thiroyd or T3 issue : )

[cc120 in reply to Clutter]

Hi Clutter, is it true that T3 alone, needn't be kept away from calcium, iron or other meds? Also does it also, as with Naturethroid/Thiroyd, have to be taken on an empty stomach?

[Clutter in reply to cc120]

CC, treat T4, T3 and NDT the same way and take them with water on an empty stomach, two hours away from most meds and 4 hours away from calcium, iron and oestrogen.

[cc120 in reply to Clutter]

Also, due to stress am taking half a capsule of Seriphos a day, will this be hampering my progress with NDT? I have low cortisol during the day and high in evening and night. I just read that cortisol helps push the T3 into the cells.

[Clutter in reply to cc120]

CC, I know very little about cortisol and adrenals. You'd be better off posting a new question.

[cc120 in reply to Clutter]

Thank you I will do that, the other concern is blood sugar levels effecting utilisation of NDT or T3 alone.

[Peacefullbliss]

I followed the Stop the a Thyroid Madness Protocol when I made the switch e.g. Starting dose of 1 grain, raise by 1/2 grain every 10-14 days until you get to 3 grains or your symptoms disappear. If you have your thyroid you may not need to get to 3 grains but thyroidless people like me tend to need 3-5 grains in order to get to an optimal dose. Then at 3 grains you hold for four weeks test your numbers then start rising again as necessary by a 1/4 or 1/2 dose till you get to an optimal dose.

You also need to split your dose throughout the day. I take a dose at night which is the larger dose and a further dose in the afternoon.

[cc120 in reply to Peacefullbliss]

Hi Peacefullbliss, sounds like I should wait and see at the 3 grain (I do have my thyroid), before considering a switch to T3 alone. I also followed the STMP with NDT dosage but due to the problems I outlined in my reply to Clutter (above) I always take the full dose in the morning and in addition trying the CT3M stopthethyroidmadness.com/t... as adrenals / cortisol is low during the day and high during the evening and night.

[gactor in reply to Peacefullbliss]

Does the night T3 dose affect your sleep (and if so, how do you compensate)? I briefly tried taking Naturethroid at 12-hour intervals and any second dose after 4 PM makes me sleep poorly. I'm going to try straight T3 soon and am figuring out an approach...

Thanks for your help.

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Apologies if this now turns up twice - my original effort seems to have disappeared.

I take Thyroid S (NDT). There is also a Thiroid S product, which I have always assumed is T3. Thus not interchangeable. Not so?

[Clutter in reply to Hidden]

Humphrey, Thyroid-S and Thiroyd are different formulations of NDT.

thyroid-s.com/what-is-the-d...

[Hidden in reply to Clutter]

Well - how extraordinary! Thank you, Clutter.

[cc120 in reply to Hidden]

I believe there is a Thiroyd, Thyroid - S, but don't think there is a Thiroid S, or Thiroyd S.

[MermaidBlues]

Hi

I have just started Tertroxin in UK after 1 and a half years of feeling lethargic on T4.I only have half a thyroid due to surgery to remove large nodule.I am now on 50mcg Levothyroxine T4 in am and 10mcg of Tertroxin T3 in am about one hour later and 10mcg T3 about 8hrs later

.We are all different.I was on 75mcg T4 and have taken 125 mcg of it but felt slow and depressed.T3 is really helping- after 2 weeks Ihave more normal energy.Some of us don't convert T4 well.Read Paul Robinson's ' Recovering with T3 book too.Good luck

[MermaidBlues]

Hi

I have just started Tertroxin in UK after 1 and a half years of feeling lethargic on T4.I only have half a thyroid due to surgery to remove large nodule.I am now on 50mcg Levothyroxine T4 in am and 10mcg of Tertroxin T3 in am about one hour later and 10mcg T3 about 8hrs later

.We are all different.I was on 75mcg T4 and have taken 125 mcg of it but felt slow and depressed.T3 is really helping- after 2 weeks Ihave more normal energy.Some of us don't convert T4 well.Read Paul Robinson's ' Recovering with T3 book too.Good luck

[cc120]

Hi MermaidBlues, sorry to hear about your struggle, but thank you for the info and advice. Are you prescribed the Tertroxin via NHS?