Why is it my nose has been fine for a little while now, I have two beers this evening and my nose blocks up again ?! :0(
Why o why.....?: Why is it my nose has been fine... - Thyroid UK
Why o why.....?
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Almost spells yoyo...
more than 2 beers Rod? I just googled what do 53 year olds do on a Saturday nite? apparently most moderate forums, Cheers ears.
J
Gaw blimey! - I too now have sinus problems so did a little googly - lost - too much choice!
This started happening to me with white wine, but I'm still okay for a beer or glass of red.
Could it be the yeast (in which case I think all alcohol would do it)? Do you have any allergy to mould?
Phew then!
Mine got worse after quitting menthols at Xmas, then had tonsillitis & several heavy colds (not had tonsillitis since a teen!) I read folk often get strep throat after quitting then gain weight - but I've been taking B complex with B3 (nicotinic acid) as a precaution, not gained but not lost any either despite regular wobbly biking grr! J
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Aha - I used to blame some of my unpleasant hangover symptoms on smoking (raw throat and palate) and I was gravely disappointed to find I still get both the raw throat and hangovers, so they must come solely from alcohol + age. But due to the terrible sinusitis white wine in particular is now off my list except for the odd glass of champagne.
Well done you for giving up. I still think it was the best thing I ever did for myself.
But it's just happens solely and obviously with beer! It's like the only obvious symptom I get! How would I know if I have an allergy to mould?
You would only know if you've been tested, but you might suspect if you react to foods made with mould/yeast: webmd.com/allergies/guide/m...
But if it only happens with beer it is more likely to be something else.
Hi I have this problem too. there are sulphites in beer which are a common food/beverage preservative, and can cause allergy in a lot of people most commonly blocked noses/ sinusitis and other upper respiratory symptoms. Sulphites are found in a lot of alcoholic drinks but not all of them and when I switched to sulphite-free drinks I don't get the blocked nose anymore
I had to switch from beer to cider but that worked out well as I'm a coeliac anyway and shouldn't drink beer. some beers are sulphite free but mostly I would have to look at the labels as not entirely sure which ones are anymore. Most ciders are ok and a lot of wines/spirits. I found the blocked nose symptom only returns if I have quite a binge on drinks when I'm out at bars and therefore don't check as religiously if the drinks are sulphite free. I think sulphite allergy creates more mucus from what I can remember so blocked nose and having catarrh (inflammation of mucus membranes eg, nose/throat) are main symptoms
There appears to be more options than just alcohol causing this reaction! Lol cider is full of sugar though surely?! Shall I try this next then? I mean I rarely ever drink but nice occasionally......
Have you ever heard snoring drunks?
There's an iPhone app for monitoring sleep and breathing during sleep.
Drink enough alcohol before bedtime and it'll suppress breathing, cause muscle relaxation so that the throat muscles collapse, resulting in snoring (or worse, apnea), esophageal reflux, sore throat, postnasal drip, blocked sinuses. Chronic: get candida overgrowth in the throat because of the damage from acid reflux and mouth breathing all night.
Best to not binge. Or binge in the afternoon so by the time you get to bed at night, you are more or less sober.
I think I also have a sulphite allergy... The sulphite reacts with your stomach acid to form sulphur dioxide which causes difficulty breathing and bunged up sinuses... I've had trouble finding sulphite free, some of the gluten free beers are also sulphite free... You're probably better off looking on amazon or somewhere else online, a good off licence maybe... I've decided the way forward is to drink spirits, neither yeast or sulphites so I don't end up ill!
So perhaps my next step is to try drinking spirits and seeing how I am on that? Trouble is I don't really care for spirits lol does this give us any direction in what else might trigger our symptoms? Ie will food do it......obviously in a less extreme reaction....?
Yep, I'm very fond of vodka and cranberry!!
There can be sulphites in food (it's used to preserve), having said that I haven't reacted to food the same way I do to beer/cider/wine... But then I avoid most processed foods! It should say on the label if it contains sulphites tho
Alcohol is a vasodilator so will cause increased periipheral blood flow in all tissues including mucos membranes and cause swelling.
R
At this rate you will end up a alcoholic, hic. I also suffer with the sinus issues but I do wonder if yours is allergy related.
If it were yeast or gluten then bread & such like would do the same, so the answer to would food do it is yes !
I would keep a diary if I were you so you can write down what triggers it, this is something I had to do when I was allergy tested.
Many of us on here suffer food allergies manly gluten, so beers off the menu if you want to breath easily. Ok so it's not good news. Lol
Could be gluten.... !
But why no reaction with anything else with gluten in?
Yeast. Depending on, amounts of yeast vary hugely. Living beer has much more yeast than a slice of baked bread. Young wines also contain a lot of yeast.
Studies have been done on people with Crohn's, UC, and celiac. The majority of Crohn's have antibodies to yeast. A significant percentage of the others do also.
Possible that autoimmune problems, as with thyroid, originate with a leaky gut.
You could do an experiment on yourself: eat a chunk of fresh baker's yeast. If nothing happens, then it's not the yeast.
Ok, sounds like a plan......where might I get this fresh bakers yeast and what would I need to look out for if I take it.....?
You can get it at some supermarkets. It would be in the cooler. But you can use dried yeast too. Just follow the instructions on the packet. I wouldn't expect it tastes all that good.
All yeast used for fermentation of wine, beer, bread is the same species.
If you have antibodies to this, then you will exhibit the typical signs you attribute to the beer.
Not always in the cooler - sometimes you have to ask at the bakery section.
Rod
You don't have to have a 'reaction' to gluten to have a greater than average intolerance of it. I say greater than average as apparently we are all gluten intolerant but on a sliding scale. Only coeliacs are 'allergic' to it, so it's not surprising you don't react to gluten as your body can probably tolerate it in certain dosages. Having said all that, you will benefit from going gluten free as many of us have already discovered. Good luck.
I would also say gluten, there are 2 types of coeliac, those whose gut reacts and those who are affected in their blood and have an eczema type reaction. There is every shade in between. Do you know if you have thyroid antibodies, if you do then it is more likely to be gluten. I am now gluten free, having been wheat before. If you try spirits beware of whisky and vodka. I also agree it could be east or sulphites. Hope you find the source of the problem. We have to be detectives when we have thyroid issues!
No I didn't have the antibodies when I was tested initially. Just sub clinical hypothyroid diagnosis. Is there no way of knowing if you have this intolerance?
Distilled liquors do not contain gluten. Some distilled liquors are not based on gluten containing grains: potato vodka, brandy, cognac, plum brandy, etc.
Analysis of wines indicate that 'young' wines are high in yeast. It's easy to see: the 'house wines' in European restaurants have tiny bubbles. Some are not clear. It's the yeast. Same with some bottled beers from central Europe. Some of the ales, like Chimay, are heavy duty in yeast.
Hi Sporty,
Many with our type of illness have food intolerance, it interests me that you say you get gut problems with sugar.........explain in more detail.
I bloat out all over if i eat gluten ! if someone had told me it was down to food years ago I would have thought them to be off there trolley.
I am talking some years back when the NHS was not so restricted my Gp sent me to the Royal Homeopathic in London where I was put on an elimination diet. I had to remove foods for a few days & then introduce them back in at a later date, I was amazed at the results.
My diet was bland at first with nothing other than potatoes, lamb & carrots, no gravy or dressings & only water to drink, I even suffered this diet one xmas whilst others tucked into there turkey !
I was found to have intolerance to all sorts of things, sadly mostly the things I loved.
Some Health food stores do allergy testing......not cheap mind.
I wonder if you could have candida if sugar gives you a gut problem, look it up on the net there is lots of info on it.
This is an overgrowth of yeast in the gut common in beer drinkers & those that love there bread, sugar or mushrooms.
You can buy tablets that help kill it off but you have to avoid certain foods as this is not an over night quick fix, taking some probiotics will help.
Look it up your body is sending you signals, it's a lot to take in at first. Jillymo
Hi Jill
Yeah I know I have gut issues, I had the full stool test :0) I've been on sups and the like for a long while now. I can now handle some carbs, so I am a bit better. The sugar, ie chocolate and if I eat too much of it, will cause bad wind. That's the symptom I get, so I know I'm still fermenting a bit. It's just the beer that's a 100% sign now that I do react to it. There's no food that's so obvious!
How incredibly uncanny, sporty333. I woke up early Thursday morning with a blocked nose, which I've been doing on and off for a while now. But over the last week or two I've been fine. Knowing, almost instinctively, that this must have been something I had eaten or drunk, because of its sudden-ness and odd-ness, I put this down to a glass of wine I had on the Wednesday evening, after a break of a week or two.
Thinking back, most of last year I had suffered from very bad allergic rhinitis, but couldn't put my finger on why. Thinking back and putting two and two together, I realised that I had been drinking wine most evenings. Doh! In my case it's definitely the wine, which I'm now keeping well away from (although I might try a vintage and see if it has the same effect (yeast in young wines? Perhaps worth an experiment.)). So fed up with waking with a blocked and runny nose and then sneezing and blowing my nose for the rest of the day (cant' take antihistamines - contain lactose, which makes things worse)!!
Thank you so much for posting your question and the uncanny timeliness of it. I do hope you manage to figure out what's causing your problem.
Best regards
Ha ha yes! The wonders of the internet hey!!! Lol bringing people together. Mine is more of an immediate reaction thought T. It comes on more of less there and then and these days I'm ok by the morning. Polyps also have been growing in my nose and sinuses, which is an added pain!!!