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Where can I buy B12 injections

Hi,

Can someone please send me a link of where I can buy B12 injections. Have read you can buy online from Germany but struggling to find where.

Would be so grateful for help as the ones I have at the docs are not enough 🙄

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Here's a link posted on the forum today :

mycare.de/en/online-kaufen/...

I've just ordered through mycare.de :

Very easy with PayPal - total amount for 100 ampules inc. shipping -

69.40 GBP

Good luck RiskiestEnd

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Thank you so much. It’s crazy that so many of us are having to self administer.

Have you injected those yourself before? I’m slightly nervous about it, but it’s very much needed.

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I have used the Rotexmedica ampoules which are 1mg x 1ml ampoules (Hydroxocobalamin) Some members say that they are the same ones as are used in their surgeries .

I have also used the Hervert Hydroxocobalamin ampoules which are 1mg x 2ml ampoules . Both are excellent . But I now use the a Rotexmedica because there is less liquid to inject .There is no need to be nervous but it’s absolutley understandable.

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Thank you so much for the info. Is the rotexmedica the one that is in the link Polaris shared?

I’m definitely good with less liquid as it stings so much.

Nurse gives the injection in my arm, but wondering if it would be ok to do in my thigh, as imagine trying to inject in arm would be really awkward if doing it myself?

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The thigh is the area of choice for self-injectors who use the I.M.method . You inject the outer middle third of the thigh and alternate . Watch some videos . ( some are good some not so . ) .I keep a record of date and which thigh I use . You can use the sub- cut method . With this you inject into your tummy using a short needle . I would google all these possibilities beforehand . The beauty of sel-injection is the fact that you can take your time . I certainly do and I can say I would now prefer S I , because I never have any pain whatsoever . The nurse always used to hurt ( but only a bit!) if you choose IM , get a fine needle for injection . You can use a fine needle because B12 liquid is very watery so will pass easily through a fine needle . I use Agani Terumo 1inch with a gauge of 25 . ( The higher the gauge, the finer the bore ) I get this at Medisave U.K. If you have fat thighs you will need a longer needle —1.25 or 1.5 , with a thicker bore . I use 1 .5 inch and 21gsuge I think

You need a longer needle to extract all the liquid from the bottom of the ampoule . It can be blunted on the ampoule that’s why you need a second needle .You need alcohol swabs to clean the area . Let this dry before injection as this can sting if damp . When you have got used to S.I It will be a doddle

Honestly . But I do remember how nervous I was for the first time . You soon get over your nerves ! Just research about it as much as possible . Even think about S.C. It might take a little longer to absorb ,but it’s worth a thought . Perhaps ask members here about their thoughts on the 2 methods . There is an injection pen available I believe , but I don’t have any information on it . This makes S I a bit easier I believe . I wouldn’t bother with it now that I’m confident with S I . You will also become confident too . Best wishes . I’ll look at Polaris link and see if Rotexmedica comes up . But mycare does stock Rotexmedica I know

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Thank you so much for all the info. I really appreciate your help and time. Love the community spirit on here.

Will have a look at some videos. I’m not particularly fond of needles (too much time spent in intensive care and being punctured multiple times a day 🙄), so if I can get an injection pen that may be best.

The nurse never uses an alcohol swab (which I thought they were always meant to use), she just rams it in my arm and makes me bleed 🤔

How often do you inject? Or is it a case of just seeing how you feel and making a judgement on whether to administer a dose?

I start a new job on the 21st and don’t want to feel like I do at the mo, as constantly tired, so much brain fog and pins and needles for no apparent reason.

How long does it take for them to arrive?

Sorry for all the questions.

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It takes 2-3 working days to arrive .i inject weekly , but as you know we are all different . You find out by trial and error . I think I could manage on fewer injections , but I can’t bear the thought of how I used to feel before SI . I can honestly say that I very very rarely bleed. I inject carefully and slowly .

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Thank you so much. Actually feel much better about his now x

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Good , that’s great .There is honestly no need to be nervous.. You have an extended family on this forum . We will hold your hand !

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Hello Wedgewood. You write, " I use Agani Terumo 1inch with a gauge of 25" for intramuscular. How do you avoid leakage after the injection when you use a needle as short as 1 inch in your thigh or upper arm?

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Well Cetus I can only say that I’ve never had any leakage . I don’t know why I should .I inject into my thigh , using the outer middle third . I stretch the skin and inject at 90 degrees . This is how the instructions I read told me to do it . I think it’s called the z track method . It’s supposed to stop leakage I believe .

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Thanks Wedgewood. I was sort of hoping hoping you had a technique other than z-track as I find it a bit awkward even on my thigh. It works to stop leakage but it's tricky to keep the skin stretched (at the same tension otherwise the needle gets tugged over) while injecting slowly for 10 to 15 seconds.

Perhaps it's just me!

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I use the Rotexmedica Hydroxocobalamin B12 ampoules which only have 1ml of liquid . This might make a difference if you are using the 2ml kind (Hevert )

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I don't stretch the skin, I just stick it in. I have had a small bleed a couple of times but no leakage and very occasionally it has hurt, I think it was too cold, now that the weather is warmer it is ok.

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Polaris’ link takes you to 100 ampoules , which is the cheapest way to buy them . You can get them in 10s and multiples thereof . The shipping by courier is expensive -€17 for a shipping I think, so it makes sense to buy a larger quantity than 10 . They have a long use by date of about 2 1/2 years .

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Thats where i get mine syringes aswell.

A great service

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Good morning RiskiestEnd !

The link takes you straight to Rotexmedica. The other reliable pharmacy, versandepo.de, used by many is slightly cheaper on shipping but, as you see from this link, is in the process of being transferred, and is sometimes out of stock:

healthunlocked.com/pasoc/po...

I started self injecting sub cut in the thigh every other day in April 2017 but switched to I.M. and recently increased injections to every day, noticing a more noticeable improvement in neurological symptoms - any stress or overdoing exercise, etc. seemed to put things back. As already explained, we are all different and at different stages in life, as well as length or severity of symptoms but getting adequate B12 early on is, in my opinion, the most important objective, especially as you can't overdose.

It is daunting for most of us to begin with but soon becomes second nature 🙂.I personally use the sterile wipe to break the ampoule to avoid cutting fingers and ensure the top is sterile. Holding the skin taut between two fingers ensures injecting is not painful. You may occasionally experience bruising or a small bleed.

More info in this link or elsewhere in the forum :

healthunlocked.com/pasoc/po...

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Thank you so much. Love the support on here and everyone is making me feel so much better able it SI. I hate how I’m feeling at the moment and desperately need more than the NHS are willing to give me x

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I've bought some from Amazon.de - the German Amazon site. It's easy to navigate as it's identical to the English site, and you can use your UK login details.

Might be worth checking between sites to get the best deal, though it sounds like they're pretty similar, and B12 isn't expensive.

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Thank you x

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Just to say that I’ve recently started self injecting and I have my life back!! Go for it! It gets easier and well worth it. Good luck.x

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Thank you x

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I buy hydroxocobalamin from vitaminb12online.com

The dosage is higher but this one is longer acting so you only need to inject every few months and works out much cheaper than anywhere else I’ve found. Postage is included also

€18.53 for 6 x 10,000micrograms in 2ml vials

They sell the packs of just vials as well as packs that include needles etc

vitaminb12online.com/methyl...

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Your link points to a site that only sells methylcobalamin and only 500 mcg doses.

10 ampoules for £33 is about five times as expensive as hydroxocobalamin from Germany.

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This is the main site:

vitaminb12online.com/#

The previous was just for one, they sell 3 types of b12

I worked it out to be cheaper than one German site but it stands to reason that they’ll vary

Which site do you use in Germany?

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6 ampoules for €19 is still a lot more than from Germany (10 ampoules for €9). They may be 10 times the dose, but that’s not really relevant and you’ll pee almost all of that out. It’s like filling a pint pot with one gallon, you lose almost all your beer.

I use versandapo.de normally, but they’d run out. So yesterday I ordered 100 ampoules from mycare.de Only €59 for 100 x 1000 mcg.

mycare.de/en/online-kaufen/...

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Hi. Did you manage to source a good supply of B12 injections ?

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