There was a post on here about this chap a while ago. I don't know what he's in but Dr Zoe was with him on This Morning TV. She clearly said she'd had had a chat with him before going on air and being very kind did not disagree with him but he is swearing by the Carnivore diet. And coming off medications for his PA. Clearly this as she pointed out is his choice but it has risks, one of which is rebound. I was interested as I remember the tale of his woe but actually he said this morning that the MTX and SAL were working but the diet had put him back to normal. Incredulously he didn't link the medication working for him with the improvement in his health. I wish him well but if anyone on here likes him then catch him on the TV today. I personally thought that Dr Zoe reminding viewers that doctors can't stop anyone who wants to go down that route but the medical professionals do need to be aware due to the risks of vitamin defiance, low fibre etc etc. She kept the viewers very clearly aware of risks whilst advising Mediterranean diet might help along with other measures we can all take but did say to him about the next stage of Biologics and I was surprised as I thought previously he was so bad that he'd had nearly everything already. Anyway just posting because its worth a watch for a few minutes.
Adam Thomas: There was a post on here about this chap a... - NRAS
Adam Thomas
I posted originally think he is a soap actor so he tried two dmards and found side effects unbearable I didn't hear him say they were working may have missed that but he said he was still in a lot of pain while on them. Yes I thought the Dr explained everything well and almost certainly doesn't recommend a carnivore diet. Apart from joint damage the diet is so restrictive he will end up with other health issues.
I saw it too . Think the bloke is a plonker. Heard Dr Zoe also say that he shouldn’t have just stopped meds and must keep his rheumatologist in the loop about what he is doing . He took this diet advice from a family friend who has studied the science behind it . Dr also said by nature the disease can have good and bad days
Don’t you just love experts in the family. After all the money spent on consultants, drugs, physio, podiatry, joint replacement etc now eating meat and eggs will cure RA. Honestly I wish him well but thought the doctor was great in warning him.
He obviously came on thinking he had found the cure.. if only. Yes Dr was brilliant. I thought Ben Shepherd was too making him repeat that what suited him was not the answer for others . It’s a worry that he has media influence. Wish Rheumatologists had this influence.
Adam can’t even pronounce arthritis never mind his drugs .
Yes I think Ben Shepherd is underrated as a presenter. Always kind but seems to have control and notices detail. Oddly enough tonight we watched an old Midsummer Murders episode and Adam Thomas was it!! Only a small part but strange co incidence.
He is on .my ig account ... i do wonder if he had a steriod injection on the last flare up ,Adam was in a world of pain & struggling then suddenly he is doing ok make no sense. He is a big influencer with millions of followers on instagram all a little weird.
My thoughts too and I only saw him as my husband left at 6 to play golf so I had a lie in and leisurely morning. Didn’t impress me at all but I thought she handled him well without saying plonker!
I agree, I thought Dr Zoe was very good.
He did have steroid injection so two weeks of meat is not the answerI personally think he never give the dmards a chance and had his wife injecting him as he couldn't do this I do feel for him it's difficult for all of us. I suspect he will be seeking biologics in the future
What a baby cant even inject himself shouldnt be on tv saying diet not giving full story that he had a steriod injection which is long lasting and thst calmed it down ..he is just delaying inevitable maybe he is in denial.. it will be the steriod working its magic once steroid run its course he will be back to square one he is silly listening to people on Instagram and not rheumatology clinic ..i have witnessed people who dont even have this type of arthritis saying diet and so on some type of infa red sauna and cold therepys.. and then others who do have ra and so on saying listen to your clinic probably needs biological drugs .
Yes, he says on insta about the side effects and how bad they were. He was in a right pickle
I happened to catch it too... only because I saw the trial as I'm not normally a good morning person. I thought the DR was excellent in her handling of the situation. I think he had stopped to he Mtx due to side effects and got the impression he's actually not long diagnosed. Still it's good to make more people aware of arthritis affecting younger people.
I'm not starting a carnivore diet...not really sure how you'd survive on just meat....not to mention the expense. I'd miss bread too much.
I agree. He raises the profile immensely of RA and if carnivore diet works for him then good for him. I don’t think he says everyone should try it. He’s such a positive kind of guy and I really like him.
My hubby went on the carnivore diet for about 6 weeks and left off his sulfasalazine and hydroxychloroquine. It did absolutely zilch for his RA and certainly didn't make him feel healthier generally as advocates of the diet imply.
If it’s working for him, then we should be happy for him shouldn’t we? He’s a young guy with a young family raising the profile of RA and shouldn’t that be encouraged?
He had awful side effects from the meds so is searching for what works for him. Like everyone does if we’re honest. And so far, this seems to be good for him and if he’s happy and pain free that’s really all that matters.
I applaud him for speaking out about it and showing that young people can also be affected by RA and he always has a positive and sunny disposition despite the difficulties he’s having.
I agree that raising the profile does help but he wasn’t ! he was advocating how the diet had worked based on a friends scientific research. It will I believe will do a lot more harm than good as people may believe it’s because we’re all just eating the wrong foods. A lot of the stuff he said was how he was cured by the diet with his meds so now he was stopping them. A bit silly to assume a diet rather than the medication was the reason he felt better. I wonder if it did work will the NHS give us vouchers for a butcher along with vitamins and B12 etc and stop the medications because it would be a lot cheaper. Or is it more likely that and it wasn’t even mentioned that he’ll end up with more publicity when he’s so sick he gets written out of whatever he appears in. The doctor Zoe looked incredulous and was so impressive in her warning and advice about biologics. But he never even mentioned other DMARDs and started the chemotherapy fear cycle again. If a potential new patient was watching it made it very scary viewing.
To be fair to him, we dint know who his friend is. Could be someone very knowledge in this area. And for some people, diet does work as everyone is different. He's tried all dmards. He's very open on Insta
He didn't say that on TV it was made clear only MTX and SAL no mention of LEF, HYD or AZA. He appeared to know nothing about Biologics either as Dr Zoe had to explain them to him. No mention of a steroid injection either. I do think it might be a good idea for NRAS to do a survey whose Veggie etc. I only say this as it might appear by saying a Carnivore diet worked then we'd all be Veggies's. Clearly that can't be possible and it is giving the same old, same old message that I've got RA because of my lifestyle ? I hope NRAS saw this and might ask the BBC to see if it's possible to follow up with him and with the advice of a Rheumatologist.
Think he's not listening I have seen advice given to him on Instagram from people with RA sensible stuff talking up joint damage dangers of dropping meds and advice on biologics.
I think Adam is probably at the stage where he thinks ( hopes) he can be lucky and avoid the worst effects of the disease
He’s probably not the best advocate but the diet is rooted in simplicity and its advocates do advise to monitor things like cholesterol and do blood testing to ensure it isn’t doing long term harm - it’s a restrictive diet not the best at all but he’s clearly clutching at straws. Doubtless he ll eventually realise that a balanced healthy diet and lifestyle may be more beneficial in complementing any meds he may be on. Hopefully he ll get onto biologics soon and he ll get improvements.
Hi medway-ladyI don't know the chap, to be honest.
Good luck to him if he's claimed to have put himself back to normal through diet, but to come off the medication straight away sticking to a carnivorous diet seems a risky strategy to me and he shouldn't be promoting that. Well done to the doctor for pointing it out.
My complementary supplementation and exercise treatments have certainly made a difference to my inflammation, working alongside the pharmaceutical meds, and my consultant doesn't dismiss this as nonsense, but I certainly wouldn't advocate that people should come off their meds, especially without discussing things with their rheumatologist.
When I was a child my mum tried many diets to see if this would help in desperation for it to make a difference, but it didn't. I think a healthy balanced diet is what works well for IA/RA/JIA/PA with a supplementation regime which is pure and without synthetic additives.
We are all individuals and what works for one person doesn't work for another in terms of any treatment, be it pharmaceutical or complementary but a carnivorous diet to me isn't great for overall health. I stopped eating meat at 18 due to animal welfare reasons, but there have been many studies which highlight that red meat in particular isn't great for inflammation anyway.
I agree but do like a bacon sandwich and that’s Shar bread as GF. It’s sad he’s got PA but it just seemed to me that he borders on the verge of hysteria but that may be the show business coming through. My actress, singer niece is on stage in London and a bit that way. Always hyped up, super positive and likes attention and I love her!!
I don't believe in the carnivore diet at all but I also think we need more than the Mediterranean diet. Years ago if you were sick, you'd be fed bone broth or scotch broth. Historically we've known that our bodies need more nutrients when they’re sick but somewhere along the way we've forgotten that. We rely only on medication and its not enough.
Anecdotally, my mum is a retired nurse and she was ranting about hospital food recently because nobody’s going to get better eating that. Its processed and low in nutrients. Sick people need more nutrients from meat.… and vegetables!
As another anecdote, I recently started taking choline for another reason and my ANA went negative for the first time in decades. I increased my ferritin too and I feel almost human. I still take my medicine though.
There is so much research out there into the benefits of diet and autoimmune diseases going back to the 70s, maybe before. But the nhs only talks about what’s proven and prescribable. So they know coeliacs is triggered by gluten, easy. Other autoimmune diseases aren't so simple. There's no definitive answer yet.
There is a very real need to start talking about diet and really that conversation needs to be led by Drs because they're the people other people trust. Otherwise more people will look to extreme diets instead of thinking ‘what would my mum/gran/great gran have done’?
I agree and when I spent 6 weeks in hospital the first 3 were in local one, a huge and major trauma centre. The food was awful and my husband bought in ready meals from M&S plus he made sandwiches to bring in. No fresh vegetables, stale fruit and meat that was called meat but I’m not sure from which animal. Then I got transferred to Kent and Canterbury, now that was jokingly called hotel kidney! The food was great, cooked breakfasts with how would you like your eggs, fresh juice and an unbelievable choice of mains for dinner with rolls for supper. A supply of good squash and you could fill own water jugs. The difference I think might be that in K&C it just wasn’t so busy.
He put a post up on instagram,Honestly I think it's a reckless post and choice, if only it was that easy to just eat a certain food group.
Food can be a trigger for symptoms and being smart about what you eat can help but in no way will a "voodoo" diet work!
He will find out the hard way, and will likely cause it to spread elsewhere!
People like "celebrities" should use their platforms for good and not to promote reckless behaviours!
However, it's his choice and I'm sure it'll come out at some point that it didn't work and his symptoms returned angry!!
I think honestly people are capable of making their own minds up aren't they? Seems most people have on here. Unfortunately it's not a one size fits all. Meds don't work for everyone and are a bit hit and miss for most (unless lucky!). Even people taking strong meds still get flare-ups and end up having steroid shots. I have. It stinks! People do whatever is right for them and their circumstances. None of us are duty bound to follow anything posted on-line. I think most of us are more than capable of descernment without demanding or assuming everyone should follow the same path. Personally I wish medicine worked better for me. It doesn't sadly. I'm therefore open to trying anything legal.😊🤣
Apologies...this was meant for general post and not aimed at you RA.
Just watched it, I thought it was good in terms of raising awareness of the condition, it’s rarely discussed on TV.
Agree, he’s probably still at the stage of believing/hoping there must be an alternative to the medications for this.
Almost certainly and unfortunately, he’ll move beyond that and end up on biologics but if by chance his ‘diet’ did really help then he’s got a platform on which he can share that experience and that approach might help others who knows.
I think it was a mistake not to mention the steroid injection, (unless I missed that) it left out a significant reason for his reduction in pain and increased feeling of well being which as we all know is only short lived.
Dr Zoe was very good in her handling of the topic. It would be great if the show brought them both back periodically to follow his journey and continue raising the profile of arthritis as an AI disease.
Thanks for mentioning the interview Medway-lady, I’m not on social media so wouldn’t have seen it otherwise.
My treatment regime consists of pure potent supplements and therapeutic grade essential oils as well as biologics, steroids and exercise. All are important to enable me to be the best I can be. I have a balanced non meat diet which I've had since age 18 and I'm now 56.I promote this because it mainly works for me however I'm not naive to the fact that it wouldn't work for everyone.
One thing I do wish is that doctors were trained to approach medicine holistically and look at the whole person rather than treat just the symptoms. There is a tablet to combat each side effect. At least if we had a symbiotic relationship between pharmaceutical and complementary medicine, including mental health, we would have improved health overall. Our bodies are interconnected, and treating them as such is pertinent to good health and being the best you can be.
Unfortunately, the depletion of nutrients within our soils and the lengthy storage of produce in warehouses means that despite trying our best to eat healthily, we lack the wholefood nourishment our bodies need, (unless you grow your own veg, which i try to grow some, but not all). We are told it is best to buy locally grown along with quality free range meats, yet the supermarkets promote cheap non nutritional processed food and the governmentallow it. The good stuff is often beyond the reach of the average household income.
In China instead of tablets patients ate sent home with a prescription to practice tai chi as it promotes good mental and physical health. Fortunately there some small signs of change and some doctors recognise the importance of both approaches, but it will take time to change things.
Sorry for going off on one! I feel this is such an important aspect of good health
Good luck to all in staying as healthy as possible, whatever treatment regime you might be on, and thanks, Medway-lady, for bringing the subject of diet up xx
I think if we could turn back the clock and introduce some rationing we’d all be a lot healthier. I’ve got a few really ancient recipe books which I like to try. I admit wartime pastry is revolting and when I made marmite pie, no meat at all it was lovely with good pastry made with butter. That was a wartime recipe I never thought would work but had orders for it at the church bazar. We eat a lot of fish, and good quality meat too. I dislike waste that’s my target, buy better and waste nothing. We do grow a lot but that’s really a luxery in today’s world. Our parish allotments have a waiting list so long it’s dead men’s or ladies plots. And gardens are so small on the new builds there’s no room to kick a ball never mind sow much. It’s leading to health and mental health problems that really ought to be assigned to history. In a way we’re going backwards.
Indeed, I'm with you on that. I try making most meals from scratch and grow as much veg and fruit as possible. In many aspects society has gone backwards, you're right. Well done on having an allotment. I'm sure your veg is delicious!!🥕xx
I don’t have an allotment as my garden is large. I just have an interest in local stuff. I have unusual fruit trees and love my garden. I sold my greenhouse when I realised it just upset me to look at it. But I still give directions as my husband likes sitting in garden and pottering with roses but if it’s not a Hosta or Hydrangea then it’s a weed. He also likes mowing so the lawn has stripes. But I’ve got a bit that is meadow and fun. These days it’s grandchildren that cause chaos and flatten the borders but I can’t shout at them can I?
Good points well made. I feel the same way.
Thanks Blackberrywine
Adam Thomas appeared on this morning with Dr Zoe. He was originally on emmerdale and waterloo road. We are all different what meds will work for one can have serious debilitating side affects for another. I have looked into diet myself but I have stopped red meat and that's what works for me but this young man finds eating meat works for him. I'm sure he was only on the tv this week just to bring attention to auto immune diseases
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