Well ive just arrived back from a holiday in Florida and went and bought 400 B&H on the plane home !!!!! 
Fortunately they're not for me 
- I bought them for a friend but was wondering whether I should have? On the one hand I shouldn't encourage smoking. But on the other hand, who am I to dictate what someone else does. He'd buy the cigs anyway so he might as well save some money.
Debate time?
You've done your friend a favour by saving him some money and you would have loved to have had friends like you when you were smoking.
You can't preach/dictate to others, ex-smokers are known hypocrites, but if/when your friend wants to quit then you'll be able to offer a bunch of info/help that will assist him, until then I think you just have to respect his choices....
I think both of those replies seem a little bit defensive!
I think even when I was a smoker I would have understood the principle of the idea of refusing to buy me cheap cigarettes! It's not like you don't allow your friend to light up in front of you or something!
The only time I would now get cigarettes for a smoker is my dad (well, actually he's been quit for a month so I hope I never have to again!) and that's just because he couldn't get his brand in the country where he lived.
Like you say, your friend could have easily bought the fags himself just at a higher price.... he would have had to be pretty shallow if he got offended with you for refusing to do it!
Anyway, glad to hear they weren't for you... and that's really what matters!
It was never my intention to be defensive.
Also, I have 7 x 50g pouches of Golden Virginia in a cupboard at home that I bought duty free just before I decided to quit, none of my friends roll their own cigs otherwise I would happily give them the baccy.
Until they decide to quit I accept their choice to smoke and would be happy to help them financially, but as I said earlier, if/when they choose to quit I'd be happy supporting them in whatever way I can.
Your friend is going to buy the fags anyway. Save him some money and deny the government some whilst you're at it
I would have been furious if, when I smoked, someone told me 'oh I was going to buy you some but since I don't think you should smoke (because I don't anymore), I didn't bother'. Grrrrrrr that would have been one friend struck off the christmas card list!
It's my CHOICE to smoke or not smoke. I'm not doing anyone else any harm. (as long as I don't inflict my smoke on them)
Just my opinion!
yes, you're all right in the whole 'choice' thing... but my point is that his friend would have ended up having his ciggys anyway. For me it would be a matter of principle to not purchase anything from tabacco companies, even if it's on someone's behalf. If they were in a situation where they couldn't afford it or I had some lying around then sure! But I don't think a real friend would consider it a me 'forcing' them to quit if I just said 'look, I'd rather not'...?
And for the record, I had some packs of cigs left after I quit and I gave them away to friends so I'm not suddenly getting 'smug' as Karri put it now that I've quit. I just simply refuse to further fund the tabacco industry! (Although Dale, that's a very good point about pi55ing off the government :P)
And I don't think your government takes as much as ours!!!
It's a very interesting dilemna. On the one hand I feel that there should be no bias, regardless of whether one smokes or not, or whether one has quit smoking or not. I've always believed that one should be the master / mistress of one's destiny, and if that means that one does or does not partake in self-destructive behaviours, that is entirely one's personal choice.
Reality is different from theory, which to me means that when confronted with situations such as the one you describe, there is an internal conflict that can occur and which may cause one to re-think one's own values and beliefs.
Alex.
Alex give it up with the "ones" ffs, tis pi%%ing one awf ! I say buy the fags they're going to smoke so help them save a quid
Alex give it up with the "ones" ffs, tis pi%%ing one awf ! I say buy the fags they're going to smoke so help them save a quid
May I suggest you read the following before you discriminate?
pantherfile.uwm.edu/downing...
Alex.
Freedom of speech - I think our friend Simon is back, Camperpete was right me thinks
Hey you two, you're both friends.
Alex, don't be so bl**dy pompous. :mad: not that I'm sure what on earth you're talking about!!!
Royal. Don let him wind you up
Now kiss me and make up. 
Hear hear DD, come on you two be friends.
\Alex, don't be so bl**dy pompous. :mad: not that I'm sure what on earth you're talking about!!!
All I'm saying in my *pompous* way (whatever that means :rolleyes
is that it is one thing to feel indifferent about buying cigarettes when "one" (:D) still smokes, but it's an entirely different ballgame when "one" (double :D) has quit, especially when buying said cigarettes for third parties.
Who would have thought it was a crime to agree with the OP? Guilty as charged.
Alex.
Well ive just arrived back from a holiday in Florida and went and bought 400 B&H on the plane home !!!!!
Fortunately they're not for me - I bought them for a friend but was wondering whether I should have? On the one hand I shouldn't encourage smoking. But on the other hand, who am I to dictate what someone else does. He'd buy the cigs anyway so he might as well save some money.
Debate time?
yes yes yes! of course you should have done.... non smokers & ex smokers would buy me cheap fags from abroad in the past...they didnt particularly agree of my habit..... but thought of the cost and that i would have bought them anyway.
All I'm saying in my *pompous* way (whatever that means :rolleyes is that it is one thing to feel indifferent about buying cigarettes when "one" (:D) still smokes, but it's an entirely different ballgame when "one" (double ) has quit, especially when buying said cigarettes for third parties.
Who would have thought it was a crime to agree with the OP? Guilty as charged.
Alex.
I missed this last night, when i gave my comments about the thread.
Can I just say Alex... I didnt see a problem with your posts. ........... Whats the big OOO AAA :rolleyes:
As for freedom of speech. some people need to practice what they preach:mad:
Hows the quit going ma dear?
Headaches !!! What should I do please
Sorry but I HAVE to let it out!!!!!!
Day 3 - think I should be avoided at all costs
