Loss of sensitivity after adult circumcision. Any help?

Hi everyone, I'm new here but came across this website/forum recently and was intrigued because it seems to be both instructive and helpful. I'm not sure if this is a USA or UK website (perhaps I should have looked more closely?) but whatever the fact, issues remain largely the same.

I'm English. Many years ago when I was a six year old boy living in Kloof, South Africa, I suffered frightening and very painful genital abuse in a children's home where I and my twin brother were sent when our parents had to be away in Johannesburg for several weeks.

The end result was a badly injured foreskin of limited use to me. Failed attempts to keep myself erect meant I had to 'start again' when fathering my three children. But at least what I had left of my foreskin kept my glans protected and of some pleasure to my wife

Eventually, following a frightening incidence of paraphimosis during sexual intercourse, I had to be circumcised shortly after; thankfully with a local anaesthetic.

But now I'm left with increasing loss of sensitivity to a permanently exposed glans (head of penis) as each month and year goes by. Is there ANY way I can retrieve the sensitivity I once had before I was circumcised?

Do the testicles and/or scrotum have any influence? I think not.

I can send a photo if needed.

Christopher

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  • Hi Christopher,

    Welcome to Healthunlocked.

    Firstly, sorry to hear about the abuse. Can you give the details:

    Have you been taking any medications post the treatment? How long has it been with the treatment.

    The community will help you

    Thanks

    kittu20

    healthunlocked.com/sexual-h...

  • Hi Kittu,

    Thank you very much for your welcome to HealthUnlocked.

    This will be a lengthy post giving necessary details of the abuse I suffered in the setting it occurred.

    When my twin brother and I were about five to six years old in Kloof, South Africa, Dad had to be taken to Johannesburg for an operation on one of his legs and Mother went with him, taking Tony, our younger brother, with them. This was pre-apartheid, and South Africa was a safe and wonderful place to be, even in the last months of WW2. I was very happy there. We had a nanny, our beloved Harriet, a black girl ('grown-up' to us, of course) who loved us as if we were her own. But caring for us night and day single-handed while our parents were away was not practicable. This left us needing care. We were put into a children's home for about two weeks.

    On our first night in this place, one of the other children knelt on his bed and told us, "You won't ever see your Mummy and Daddy again - not ever, ever, ever!" My mind went into a spin, shocked and uncomprehending. I tried to settle down on the thin mattress, so unlike my real bed at home, with his words filling my head.

    The next morning I woke up and was mortified to discover I had doubly fouled my bed. It was the same the following morning and the next... and so on. I feared waking up each morning with a soaking wet bed and the sensation of dried faeces cracking apart between my buttocks. "No, noo," I pleaded, burying my head in my pillow. I was deeply ashamed. I was bad.

    Initially I was dealt with in a detached, matter-of-fact manner: showered, dressed and left to live each day with all the other children. But I felt imprisoned. I still recall the high walls surrounding the tiny playground.

    Finally, one carer lost her patience with me. I was dragged to the showers and in an act of unconscionable violence she took the opportunity to punish me 'appropriately'. Grabbing a floor brush, she scrubbed me, back and front. My mouth opened in a choking, soundless scream, as mind-numbing, stabbing pain buckled my legs to the sight of blood washing away in the water at my feet. My memory of anything that ensued after that terrible morning is lost - except this:

    We were eventually taken back home... and to this day I remember in vivid detail the moment I saw my mother standing, waiting at the front door. I ran down the long path, crying out in joy, "Mummy, Mummy, Mummy!" And fell into her open arms, sobbing uncontrollably, released from that little boy's lies and the terror I had lived through.

    _________________________________________________

    By 'treatment' I assume you mean my consequent need to be circumcised as an adult. Please clarify if I'm wrong. I take totally unrelated medication. To my knowledge there is no medicine available to treat loss of penile sensitivity post circumcision. Again, please correct me if I'm wrong. I was circumcised in March 2001.

    Kind regards,

    Christopher

  • Rather than a urologist, I think its better you need to take help from sexologist or psyhologist for help.

    Thanks

  • I have noted your suggestion.

    Thanks

  • Hi Christopher,

    I believe that these forums are indeed 'international', and you'll quite often find questions and answers from members in various countries.

    Maybe I'm being rather dense, but I'm not clear what you mean by 'starting again' when fathering your children?

    May I ask how old you were when you were circumcised and how many years ago was the procedure undertaken?

    Am I right in assuming that you can still climax, but that it takes you ever longer to reach your orgasm and ejaculate?

    From my own experience, the glans does lose some sensitivity after this operation as it is constantly being stimulated by clothing, etc. For some men, that can of course be a bonus, especially if they've previously suffered from premature ejaculation.

    I'm afraid I don't know of anything that will restore penile sensitivity. I guess most of us enjoy having our scrotum/testicles played with during foreplay/intercourse.

    I would suggest that as this is clearly an issue for you that perhaps you visit your GP with a view to being referred to a specialist in sexual medicine?

    All good wishes,

    Peter

  • Hi Peter,

    By 'starting again' I was referring to my need to produce an erection rigid enough to penetrate my wife in the act of sexual intercourse and STAY erect within her long enough to reach climax. As you know, my foreskin was injured from the abuse I suffered as a boy. Its elasticity was severely compromised by ihe scars left behind. I often had to masturbate, sometimes with my wife's help, before I could penetrate her successfully.

    I was middle-aged when the surgery to remove my foreskin to place in March 2001.

    You're right that I can still climax and ejaculate, but it takes a learning curve to master without a foreskin.

    You are also circumcised. How and when did the surgery take place? As a baby perhaps? Please let me know, I'm very interested.

    A newly circumcised penis in adulthood with its permanently exposed glans is subject to extreme sensitivity when stimulated by the merest touch of clothing,. But the sensation is more than anything like hitting our humerus (funny bone) - very uncomfortable.

    Should you and I be happy that we now feel less and less glans sensation as every year passes by? You say: "For some men, that can of course be a bonus, especially if they've previously suffered from premature ejaculation." This is essentially a myth. A man with a fully functioning foreskin can stay erect and wait until his partner is 'ready'.

    You say: "I guess most of us enjoy having our scrotum/testicles played with during foreplay/intercourse." This is true, but is it true enough?

    My GP would possibly refer me to a urologist or a councillor I think. She is the best doctor I have ever been registered with as an adult, so I do thank you for your input, Peter.

    With my best wishers,

    Christopher

  • A physician would likely call him nuts.

  • Hi Christopher,

    Thanks for your reply.

    To answer your question, I had the procedure done when I was 31 and I'm now 63. I'm not married neither have I ever lived with anyone nor have I any children, so my circumstances are very different to yours.

    I was deeply saddened to read of your experiences in SA in the response you posted in reply to Kittu20. It must have been an absolute nightmare for you, and I can only begin to imagine the sense of relief and security you felt when you were finally reunited with your Mother.

    I do wish you well and hope you can the answers you need.

    Kindest regards,

    Peter

  • My kindest regards to you too, Peter, and thank you for your kind words.

    Christopher

  • I'm so sorry for all the abuse, pain, and trauma that you experienced.

    I would recommend looking into foreskin restoration to help you gain back some of that sensitivity.

    savingsons.org/2009/10/fore...

    savingsons.org/2016/04/fore...

  • Danijenks,

    I must thank you kindly for your response.

    It's not the first time foreskin 'restoration' has been suggested to me. I put the word in quotes because the actual foreskin with all its fine-touch nerve endings can never be restored, as I'm sure you know. Had I been circumcised as an infant - as tragically so many USA boys still are - I would never have experienced the pleasure of a foreskin. And what I didn't have I couldn't miss.

    Therefore for men like these, using their penis shaft-skin to stretch and cover their exposed, dried-out insensitive glans must often be a welcome endeavour. But a hard work endeavour it really is.

    However, for me, who once had a vestige of the pleasure a real foreskin can give, 'restoration' can only be a compromise I would rather not endure.

    I will access the links you offered, after I send this reply - and respond in my next post.

    Christopher

  • It’s still your best option. Having a full time covers causes the glans to shed its extra layers of tissue, thus restoring it to full sensitivity and original appearance and texture. The gliding effect can also be restored.

  • Danijenks,

    The second of your two links - 'Foreskin is Better' - impressed me most because the man who lost his foreskin was circumcised as an adult and therefore KNEW what he had lost - just like me.

    That said, I still cannot encompass the notion of 'restoration'. But - and a big but - is the following recent news item from Mail Online:

    dailymail.co.uk/health/arti...

    Think of the joy it would give if it actually comes to pass, not just for men, but their partners too!

    Christopher

  • Hardly matters. Sensation is not on glans . It's inside . Don't worry

  • Not so with any intact penis. The inner foreskin with its myriad fine-touch nerve endings, reacts in tandem with the soft and very sensitive surface of the glans which is designed as an internal organ, covered and protected by the foreskin when the penis is flaccid and keeping the surface of the glans and inner mucosa moist and supple. When the penis is erect in the act of sexual intercourse the foreskin slides back and forth over the glans upon each thrust and semi-withdrawal within the vagina, giving exquisite pleasure to both partners. I know. I've been there, read the book and got the t-shirt.

    After circumcision, however, my glans and surrounding mucosa is now permanently externalised, exposed to the air and the constant abrasion of clothing. These areas dried out, causing layers of keratin to build, and have given my glans a dry, leathery appearance and nothing more than pressure-touch sensitivity - nature's attempt to simulate the protection of a foreskin.

    I ask again. does anyone know of a method or solution that will somehow simulate a foreskin? And I don't mean foreskin 'restoration' which is no more than using weights or pulling devices to stretch shaft skin over the glans.

    It's a tall order, I know; so "pigs might fly" might be the only response I get.

    Christopher

  • I dont think it really matters whether you have or don't have the foreskin, because the sexual ecstasy sensation is much inside and not on the glans only .

  • You've said this before, and it's your use of the word 'inside' which has confused me. By 'inside' do you mean a mental and emotional sensation of passion, bliss and joy? In other words, ecstasy? It's been said it’s like floating in water on your back while someone performs oral sex and at same time exploring other pleasure zones, such as the prostate gland or the perineum. Is that what you mean by 'inside'?

    BUT, even oral sex for a man - or just masturbation - needs a foreskin for ultimate pleasure, let alone sexual intercourse! Don't you see? By ignoring the foreskin and its outstanding benefits, you give fuel to those who believe all males should be circumcised.

    I have a question and please be truthful: are you intact or circumcised?

    Christopher

  • I mean pleasure is not only in glans , ultimate pleasure generates inside the shaft . There is no need that all males need to be circumcised .But whoever needs to be done need not be afraid .That's what I wanted to mean .I am not sure how foreskin helps in oral ? Well anything there is a pleasure for which instinct and mind also has a role .

  • I can best answer much of what you have said, including how the foreskin helps in oral sex, by quoting an article by an American woman. It's lengthy but fascinating and very well written:

    "Now I look at the cut penis and see it as something disfigured, injured: I see what I thought was normal before for what it really is. I see the cracked and pitted skin of the glans, where my partner's is smooth and silken to the touch. I see the strange rings of discolouration from scarring and unnatural exposure to the elements, where my partner's is gracefully coloured, culminating in a glans that looks flush and rosy like a baby's soft cheek.

    I love being sexual with an intact penis. I love the different options it affords in the way of play... it's like an entire new world to explore and enjoy to our heart's content. I love the way it moves in my mouth during oral sex, the way I can pull it up over the glans and back down with my lips.

    Cut penises do not afford the same variety of sensations, teasing tricks, or pleasurable movement.

    I love the fluid feel of the foreskin gliding during intercourse, the way it eases penetration and makes lube a totally unnecessary substance.

    I love the way his glans is softer and more gentle. At first, I thought he just wasn't getting fully erect and felt insecure... and then I read more and learned that the protected, sheathed glans is really just supposed to be softer and less rigid than the scarred and unnaturally roughened cut penis.

    And then I realized how much better it felt: in my cut partners, the glans felt too hard, like it was ramming into my vagina. The intact glans feels like it gracefully melds with my internal shape, complementing it instead of assaulting it.

    More than anything, I love the difference in responses between him and my other, cut partners. All I have to do is gently touch my tongue to his frenulum, and that evokes a huge shiver of pleasure, or lightly hook my finger under the foreskin to produce a powerful moan.

    To me, sexual intimacy with this intact man has been a more sensitive, intense, intricate experience than with any of my cut partners. They were all very skilled in bed... but the difference in sensation that they required is very noticeable. They needed more aggressive oral or manual stimulation to near or reach orgasm. I felt like a jackhammer.

    With this partner, the slowest, most gentle strokes can produce incredible pleasure, since the natural nerve endings of the inner foreskin provide its own intense stimulation. I find it to be a beautiful experience, just watching and admiring how the foreskin acts for his pleasure.

    And I realized more than anything that that piece of skin is his birthright. The pleasure that he receives from his foreskin belongs to him as much as his sense of taste and touch... and nobody, no doctor or parent in the world has the right to take that from him, or from any other male, unnecessarily."

    So, Diptasu, do you now understand why a circumcised penis is a crippled penis? And why I am looking for something - anything - that can help me restore even a residue of the pleasure I once enjoyed with a foreskin; but which doesn't involve so-called foreskin 'restoration'?

    There is no pleasure in a permanently exposed glans after the act of circumcision. Even the shaft of an erect penis has more sensitivity - plus the penile frenulum if it was not also cut away during the surgery.

    You have not answered my question about whether you are intact or circumcised. Please do so.

    Christopher

  • I am having troubles, due to medication, where my foreskin has tightened so much that I can't draw it all the way back over the glans. I found this, useful, site searching for "Adult circumcision" and I'm glad I found it. the sensitivity of the glans is high and I wouldn't want it exposed to clothing Etc, permanently. I really ought to talk to my doctor and see if there are any other options, rather than the knife. I hope, Islaywhisky, that you find a way to put your problems into good shape again, by whatever means.

  • Firstly, thank you for your kind wishes, Breff. Today I can at least achieve an erection first - and ejaculate after considerable hard work.

    Secondly, other options for a very tight foreskin ARE available. Topical steroids (a cream, gel or ointment that contains corticosteroids) are sometimes prescribed to treat a tight foreskin. They can help soften the skin of the foreskin, making it easier to retract.

    These were given to me, but sadly the scar tissue on my injured foreskin prevented a successful outcome. Topical ointments cannot work wonders on a non-elastic foreskin caused by an injury. In my case paraphimosis occured and meant a consequent circumcision.

    Christopher

  • Islaywhyskey I've been following your comments on this thread and I couldn't agree more with you. Circumcision is the same as genital mutilation, the foreskin is very much important to a man's sexual health.

    I'm South African and my issue is more on the right to know about the disadvantages of circumcision and letting men take an informed decision when advise about circumcision. South Africa is currently running the biggest circumcision campaign in the world due to the high HIV prevalence over here, but there's no mention in any of the campaign material about the disadvantages of removing foreskin. I wrote an email to the department of health pointing this out, initially they ignored me but after I confronted their spokesperson on a radio show running the same campaign the department called me privately and said highlighting the disadvantages would discourage men from circumcising!

    I'm 38 and was circumcised in 2013 after undergoing a penile fracture operation. I remember well that I asked the Dr who performed the operation if there are any disadvantages in circumcision and he said no there's absolutely not and he went on and on explaining how millions of men around the world are circumcised and how old the practice of circumcision is.

    If only I had known about the loss of sensitivity and the other benefits I would lose from cutting my foreskin before the surgery, I wouldn't have allowed him to mutilate me. I've noticed the loss of sensitive and change in color of my glans since, I'm also taking longer to ejaculate and reach orgasm !

    Please let me know if you find a solution to restoring sensitivity (manhood).

  • Sorry to hear

  • Bobby, well done for speaking out on that radio programme - and of course it would discourage men from circumcision, as indeed it should!

    The surgeon who circumcised you SHOULD have told you how much he regretted cutting off your foreskin, explaining how far GREATER are the millions of males - boys and men - left intact in this wide world of ours!

    By the way, I love South Africa. I lived there in a town called Kloof for about six years with my two brothers and our parents.

    Christopher

  • Man, you need to investigate foreskin restoration. Google it. I’m here to help.

  • Even with steroids, it takes manual stretching to loosen the opening.

  • What medicine and what conditions has it caused?

  • May I ask what meds caused the tightening of your foreskin.

    ( I have heard doctors prescribe steroid cream to aid stretch)

  • What medicine and what conditions has it caused?

  • Tighness occurring as you’ve described is most often caused by yeast. Try treating for yeast for ten days snd then stretch the opening.

  • Medication did not cause the tightening of my foreskin. It was the injury to my penis when abused as a small boy.

    Christopher

  • Yea.. use a penis health creme called Man1 Man Oil. It contains a protein called acetyl L carnitine that will naturally repair the nerve endings that were damaged during circumcision. This will bring back a lot of lost feeling in a short amount of time.. safely. It is an awesome product. Check it out.

  • Thank you very much for the suggestion, but the product is not easily available in the UK. Nonetheless I will keep it in mind.

  • Hi I just joined and came accross your post.

    I was also circumcised as an adult (45)due to a medical issue that I had tried to resolve with no luck.

    I have to agree that sensitivity is almost gone completely. Forget oral, what’s the point. Penetration barely registers anything.

    I believe those who say it’s not or very different had circ and birth and don’t know what they have missed!!

    I don’t bother with sex often at all any more. I can masturbate but have to squeeze hard on the lip of the head to feel anything.

    I was listening to a podcast a while back about this issue (in Australia) and a guy phoned in with the same issues we have and said he is getting sensation back by wearing a Condom all day.

    He reckons put condom on, and cut the tip off so you can urinate etc. change as often as you want but leave one in place. Sleep with no or loose undies on.

    I keep meaning to try this but forget about it. Your post reminded me.

    I’m sure someone will say it doesn’t work or is unhealthy but I’ll leave the decision up to you.

    All the best.

  • Spooky, I have never tried using a permanent condom in the manner you describe, but it's likely to be of no more help than the age-old attempt to simulate a foreskin by stretching penis shaft skin over the glans, using attached weights.

    However, there IS a product called Foregen which claims to be able to actually regenerate a real foreskin! It's still work-in-progress, but imagine the pleasure it will give unwillingly circumcised males! Here's the link -

    foregen.org/

    Christopher

  • It’s nothing like stretching the foreskin. That takes years until you get some coverage whereas the condom covers it instantly. I’ve never heard of that product but fail to see how you can grow skin that is not there. I don’t believe it. Lol. Oh well good luck to you

  • Spookie, that chap is telling the truth. The exposed glans develops extra layers of tissue which insulate it. A full time cover causes those layers to shed. That why men restore their foreskins.

  • There is most definitely a way to regain much of the sensitivity loss you’ve suffered. It’s called foreskin restoration. You can learn about the process by entering the term in your search engine. Briefly, it involves the process of skin expansion by the application of tension. It’s a do-it-yourself project which might take from two to five years of diligent effort, mostly passive, during your waking hours. There are excellent devices avail commercially to fascilitate the process.

    In 16 years, your glans has added new layers of tissues which have deadened its sensitivity. Within a matter of a few weeks of being covered, those layers will shed to reveal a much smoother and more colorful surface as you once had. Sadly, the nerves within the foreskin and the ridged band are gone, but you can restore muc of what you lost.

  • Thank you for your post Jim. However, the method you describe repeats a comment I made to Spooky above -

    "...the age-old attempt to simulate a foreskin by stretching penis shaft skin over the glans, using attached weights."

    'Foreskin restoration' is a misnomer. Once a foreskin is excised under a surgeon's scalpel its exquisite true function can never be restored, as you rightly point out. Unfortunately, being circumcised as an adult may leave a man with memories of the way he had been with an intact penis and all its nature-given inestimable benefits. I will regret my crippled penis for ever and a day.

    Christopher

  • No argument with that. The majority of those circumcised as adults regret it. Restoration is their best option.

  • Except there IS no 'restoration'; as I have tried to explain. 'Substitution' would be a better word. Penile shaft skin does not a foreskin make.

    Christopher

  • You can nitpick if it pleases you, but the current term used to describe the process is foreskin restoration. That term has been in use since about 1983, and it’s the universal word used by thousands of men who have participated.

  • Good. I shall continue to 'nitpick' as and when I consider it has an educational purpose.

    Christopher

  • Hi Islaywhisky,

    I'm 20 y.o. originally from China. I use to have constant problems, so I did stretching of my foreskin. I always have a long foreskin plus overhang (yes, it looks like anteater with a V-shape end), but I agree with a lot of what you say. It never work properly before, but now my gf often gives me oral and she wanks me until my cock is fully erect, it is so easy. I feel ecstacy when she puts it in my mouth and slides my foreskin up and down over my glans head. That only happen thanks to the stretching. The glans is very moist and both it and my inner foreskin are so sensitive. I can totally cover my glans head and slide the skin right back behind the ridge to fully expose it. Also, she like to play 'peekaboo' with it, due to the colour/shape difference of foreskin and glans.

    I'm so sorry to hear about the abuse in your childhood and the damage they did cause to your foreskin and you now feel so little sensations after it was cut off for medical reasons. You also think your glans is too dry, and so you said that often you need to wank before sex. I think you may be right that you can't restore the lost nerves.

    BUT I do agree with jimfromcalif that it's possible to do foreskin restoration. So similar to the stretching that I did before! Yes, it's not perfect. You may not get 100%, but 90-95% with the restoration is a lot better than 0% now, and I heard you will get back so much sensation and moist-ness, too. You can follow jimfromcalif ideas and do some stretching and even though your glans head is dry, it is still there and also ready to improve soon, be much more moist, much better sex, with the stretching in foreskin restoration. So why not go for it?? Also pls always remember that men don't all have either a long foreskin or no foreskin - there is so much variations in the world and there are so many differences. But I think that jimfromcalif has the best solution for your situation...

  • Hi Chen - and thank you or your kindly and understanding reply.

    I suggested to Jim that 'substitution' would be a better word than 'restoration'. I explained why - and will explain further. Here's the dictionary of 'substitution'...

    "The action of replacing something with another thing."

    'Another thing' = 'something different'. It's THAT difference which I hope for.

    As you know, my injured foreskin led me to peremptory circumcision by my doctor when she examined my penis and immediately referred me to a urologist for a desperately unwanted circumcision on my behalf. (That's another story.)

    Push-and-shove, I am one of the hundreds (thousands?) of men across this world of ours subjected to genital modification against their will.

    BUT there just may be a future promise for us all. It's called Foregen. See this link below!

    foregen.org/

    Christopher

  • Hi Christopher,

    You are welcome. I am a Chinese studying in the UK, so pls forgive me if I don't understand British culture very well. Several of my friends in China have been circumcise, which they choose themselves as adults.

    Personally, I am glad that my stretching work well. It was a big problem before. Also my foreskin is much longer now than before, and I love it bcos it is great for sex and oral bcos it slide back and forward perfectly over my glans head. The head and my inner foreskin are also moist and very sensitive and personally I love the feeling. I also do some 'wanking' sometime.

    As you explain, your foreskin had been damage badly. So the urologist recommend that you have circumcise to make the problem less. Tbh, if I had the same problem with my foreskin, I would have gotten circumcise too. The only reason I don't go for circumcise already is bcos the stretching solved my problem.

    My cousin and my best friend in China also tried stretching but it doesn't work for them, and they never saw their glans head so they choose to circumcise. I take shower with my best friend after gym, his head is alway uncover now, it looks good and very tidy operation. I was surprise by how good it look. Also he choose laser circumcision, so no visible cut line.

    Do you keep your Frenulum, or was it cut off when you circumcise? My cousin keep it but my best friend choose to cut it off. Both prefer circumcise to solve their medical problems and I know that many Chinese girls like it too.

    But I don't understand that you say: "desperately unwanted circumcision" and "subjected to genital modification against their will". But I think, you have free choice and you can say no? Bcos it is your body, not theirs. Or is British law that you must obey the urologist/other medic staff or you face punishments? Sorry, but very confuse on this point!

  • Hi Chen,

    I don't have the time at the moment to reply at length. So this will be a fairly brief response from me.

    1. Please keep in mind that you no longer have a foreskin nor an inner foreskin in its nature-given state. All you have is stretched SHAFT skin covering your glans

    2. Laser circumcision carries a risk of infection.

    3. Fortunately I was allowed to keep my frenulum - but no thanks to one of the attending nurses who insisted it should be removed or I wouldn't be 'properly' circumcised. The surgeon asked me. I said "Please NO." And that was that!

    4. Yes, I had free choice. But I had suffered an incident of paraphimosis after sex with my wife, and this led me to visiting my doctor. She referred me to a urologist to be circumcised, as I think I've already explained.

    But I did not WANT it Do you understand?

    I now think of you as a friend of mine and wish we could meet up sometime to properly discuss these issues at length. Not possible I fear.

    Christopher

  • I keep seeing replies talking about pleasure and how it's supposed to be but doesn't the Bible say something different about how it's supposed to be.

  • Does it? Please explain...

    Christopher

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