Incessant nausea at 6dp5dt

[orangecatmum]

Hi all,

I'm in this 2WW hell after my first FET last Tuesday. I'm still a good few days away from testing (OTD on Saturday) and ofc I have been Googling like mad and mentally exploring every symptom while also repeatedly telling myself: it's the estrogen and progesterone, symptoms mean nothing, it's all a farce, it's too soon for any proper symptoms etc etc.

But after having quite bad cramps last week for a couple of days, and feeling like I'd been hit by a bus yesterday, since last night I've been having really bad nausea and excess saliva to the point where I really can't ignore it anymore! I do usually get a touch of nausea in my luteal phase and I had a little bit after I started the Cyclogest but honestly, the past 18 hours I have been so nauseated. I also feel like my sense of smell is super-heightened which isn't helping.

Is this really a normal side effect of the drugs (also I'm on Progynova) or am I in with an actual shot here? It's driving me mad - I keep eating hoping the nausea will go away (as that usually fixes it!) but it's not doing that at all now! V annoying, ha.

I know it's far too early for actual pregnancy symptoms but it's driving me mad at quite how rough I feel. I like to think of myself as a very logical woman but, you know... IVF and all.

Has anyone had anything similar in the past, and did it turn out well/bad for you?

[DianeArnold Partner Nurse Fertility Network UK]

Hi. Many of these fertility medications have similar side effects, as they are working on the pituitary gland in the brain. Sometimes drinking lots of water helps as it reduces the impact on the gland, but not the efficiency.. Try it and see if it helps you . Good luck. Diane

[orangecatmum in reply to DianeArnold]

Thanks Diane. I'm drinking as much water as I can but it's not going away - but definitely trying not to get too ahead of myself and aware it could well be the cyclogest. It's a horrible thing to put us through at such a difficult time!

[Millbanks]

Hi lovely,

In my first pregnancy I had zero symptoms at all - and so expected exactly the same with this last one (unfortunately an mmc).

But with this one I suspected it had worked very early, because I was getting cramps and twinges from day 2 and they carried on the whole time. I also had nausea and thought that it seemed very early but I had it on and off for the whole time I was pregnant (12 weeks in total).

I got a very very faint positive from day 3...

Got everything crossed that this is a good sign for you! Also please don't think that because I had an mmc, your symptoms mean that it will happen to you - I was just really unlucky xxx

[orangecatmum in reply to Millbanks]

Hi love - I'm so sorry you've gone through what you've gone through. It's truly awful to happen to anyone, let alone someone who has gone through the rigmarole of IVF. I really hope you're doing OK after all that <3

And thanks for that - v interesting. Esp a faint positive from day 3 along with such strong symptoms.

It's so hard because I am logical and know all too well that symptoms largely are because of the drugs, mainly Cyclogest. But the last day or so have been so intense, it's like, god really?? Is that the progesterone? I don't want to get my hopes up (I have a deep gut feeling this won't work for me as I don't have an auto-immune protocol and I believe I might need one) but I can't help it when I'm getting such mad things happen to my body. The cramps (they were so, so deep on 3dp5dt, like the same as before I had my miscarriage, which was weird), the exhaustion, the nausea and dizziness. But it's a very 'me' thing for me to get my hopes up and not have it work - story of my life! Ha x

[Millbanks in reply to orangecatmum]

Thanks love - yea I'm ok ❤️

Sorry to hear about your miscarriage too - it's such a rough road isn't it.

Haha I think we all do this "getting our hopes up silently, while trying not to get our hopes up"... its impossible not to. We put so much in to each cycle, if we didn't have hope then it would all be, well hopeless. I don't think it's a bad thing to hope, I always try to balance it with the opposite, but the hope always creeps through.

I always thought the same about the drugs creating symptoms, and with all my failed FETs I had loads of symptoms but in hindsight they were similar to PMT - not pregnancy - this last time was very different.

Anyway the only way to know for sure is to test! The most terrifying part of it all - will you test early? xxx

[orangecatmum in reply to Millbanks]

The roughest of roads! And mine was over a year ago but I live in such fear that I'll never get my outcome and that I have years of hell ahead of me before eventually giving up. Shame my brain is caught between deep pessimism and blind optimism, ha!

That's interesting about PMT - I guess I do have quite PMT-y symptoms, and I usually am blighted by it. But this time, today at least, they feel like PMTx10.

I'm prob not going to test early - I don't want to put myself through that! I have a gut feeling it'll be a negative so I'd rather live in blind, ignorant hope for as long as I can. OTD is this Saturday - and then I fly to Italy later that day for a short break so either outcome, I'll be buggering off for sunshine and pasta!

[Millbanks in reply to orangecatmum]

Sounds bloody delightful

I never tested early before, and this time I just wanted it out the way ASAP so started testing early - it was a rollercoaster of hell! So good on you for sticking with the bubble!

Enjoy your pasta either way xx

[Nes1005]

I had exceptionally bad nausea/vomiting during week 4-5, morning , noon night constantly, turns out my hcg was exceptionally high, off the scale and I had something called sub chorionic bumps which potentially made the sickness worse. It’s continued on since then and I’m just 8 weeks now and it’s started to ease off and now I’m fretting as to why the sickness is calming down and fearing the worst. So I guess the nausea can be that strong so early on but probably not common. It’s so mentally draining questioning every symptom and loss of symptoms isn’t it. Wishing with so much hope that the nausea is a good sign and you get a positive. Everyone on here is amazing and we all deserve our happy endings ❤️❤️❤️

[orangecatmum in reply to Nes1005]

Oh goodness that sounds awful, poor you! So horrendous, especially when you find out there's something else as play there. But glad it's easing off a bit - I'm sure it's for a good reason. It's mad that we're never happy with the symptoms or without them; such a head-eff. Really hope you're doing OK ❤️

For me my sickness has really eased - yesterday it was horrendous, but today it's barely there. I have some cramping today and I took an early test and it's the FAINTEST of faint lines on 7dp5dt. Not sure what to make of it - something is there but it's so pale it's almost not!

[Nes1005 in reply to orangecatmum]

Thank you for your words, means a lot and I am hanging on in there , day by day.

Oh bless you, glad you are feeling a little better.

I know a feint line is a worry, but I’m willing and wishing that it progresses for you. Is so tough but keep hoping. Thinking of you and sending so much love. ❤️❤️❤️

[orangecatmum in reply to Nes1005]

I'm trying to tell myself it's still super early so to get even a faint posi now is good, and my FMU is still really diluted; I drink a lot before bed 😅 So here's hoping!

[Nes1005 in reply to orangecatmum]

A feint positive is a positive, I’m really hoping for you.❤️

[SABS86]

Hiya we have the exact same dates. My FET was last Tuesday and my OTD is Saturday. Trying so hard to resist testing early.

My first transfer was successful and I had no symptoms. My second FET which was in May failed and I had similar symptoms to you - constant nausea etc, cramping etc. This time around I have no symptoms. I have tried really hard not to google symptoms but its hard. I don't have much hope as it was a low graded embryo

Wishing you the best of luck.

[orangecatmum in reply to SABS86]

Ahh best of luck for Saturday! I caved and tested early today and have the faintest of lines, it's barely a whisper but it's there. Hopefully it progresses but my symptoms have really eased off today so fingers crossed!

[Millbanks in reply to orangecatmum]

YES!!! I'm so excited to see this

Everything crossed xx

[orangecatmum in reply to Millbanks]

Ahh thanks love! Trying not to get too ahead of myself because I know how these things go, it may be a chemical etc. But this is what I had - it was really faint at first but this was after 10 mins (even though it says not to read the test after 5 mins!) - what do you think? Evap or... the fainest of BFPs?

The one and only time I have been pregnant was last year and I tested much later than this, and this is my first IVF cycle so no idea what to think. I see people with darker lines on day 5 and 6, so I can't decide if it's just too light...

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[Millbanks in reply to orangecatmum]

Certainly not an evap line. These tests don’t really do those… looks good to me. It is early so hopefully it’ll just get stronger and stronger. This was my line progression from last time

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[orangecatmum in reply to Millbanks]

Ahh yes it does look fair there too! I am really hoping this sticks - and that I get some sort of progression over the next few days.

I can't decide what is more torturous - not knowing at all and worrying either way, or knowing something is there but that it could go away!

[Millbanks in reply to orangecatmum]

I never tested early before - and to be honest I found it so stressful waiting for it to get darker and over analysing each test to see if there was any difference.... sometimes testing 2 or 3 times a day, it was a relief when I ran out of tests!! xx

[orangecatmum in reply to Millbanks]

I am now in a world of hell as I have been a bit crampy (not really painful but noticeable) and just started spotting, a bit of brown. Ughhhh. I think I let myself get my hopes up but this feels like the end already!

[Millbanks in reply to orangecatmum]

Brown spotting is fine - it’s just old blood and if you’re cramping it will be because of that. Cramps are a good sign in my experience x

[orangecatmum in reply to Millbanks]

I really hope so! The way I would describe them is like the end of my period? When the bad pain is gone and my uterus feels like it's doing its clear-out, and when I would get brown blood. Didn't realise implantation blood would come after a BFP but hoping so in my case, ha.

I'll test again in the morning and pray for a darker line! X

[Millbanks in reply to orangecatmum]

The cramping can be the embryo implanting deeper so don’t worry about that. It can carry on weeks in to pregnancy.

Also don’t worry if your line isn’t much darker tomorrow- HCG doubles every 48 hours so you wouldn’t expect it to be stronger until 9dp 5dt x

[orangecatmum in reply to Millbanks]

Ahh I need you living inside my head - not just for this but for all my silly anxieties, ha! Thanks for your words.Appreciate all of this, I am still very new at this and associate these pains/blood with my MC but ofc know it could be good, too! 🤞🏼

This process is truly nuts!

[Millbanks in reply to orangecatmum]

Haha I need to listen to myself too!

Yes it’s completely nuts. Fingers crossed your cramps ease up xx

[orangecatmum in reply to Millbanks]

Ha, it's so easy to give the advice when it's not you. I'm usually the best, calmest person but when it's myself? Mental.

And cramps, they have so far, thank goodness - and the spotting has gone. But I expect it to come back today, as it does!

[orangecatmum in reply to orangecatmum]

Hahahaha as I wrote this, it returned. OFC!

[Millbanks in reply to orangecatmum]

GAH!

[Lmb2b in reply to orangecatmum]

Gentle congratulations! What test is this, is it a sensitive early one? It looks to have colour to me so I would say it's positive but if it's not very sensitive then that's why it could be faint. If you're doing to do line progression then make sure you use the same brand. Wishing you all the luck x

[orangecatmum in reply to Lmb2b]

Thanks love - it's a Boots early detection test. It was ever so slightly darker this morning and I mean SLIGHTLY. Barely, even. But I realised I drink quite a lot after 8pm - I tried to drink less last night and felt so thirsty, but I still had a bladder full this morning at 5am, ha. It was darker but not the darkest of pees!

For now just hoping it keeps progressing... fingers crossed so hard!

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[SABS86]

Also I'm really sorry to hear about your miscarriage. X

[SABS86]

That's amazing news, fingers crossed that line gets darker! My tests have just been delivered, I am so tempted but trying to hold off. With my first transfer I had no symptoms until week 7 or 8, so I wouldn't worry x

[orangecatmum]

I was always going to be a day 11 tester but something came over me and I couldn't fight it! x

[SABS86 in reply to orangecatmum]

Hiya how are you getting on? I tested this morning and I got a faint line but I suspect it's a chemical as I think it's too faint 😢 my clinic don't do bloods I would have to go for a scan in 2 weeks but I'm going to ask if they can I would rather know now if it's viable or not.

[orangecatmum in reply to SABS86]

Hiya love - oooh fingers crossed! It depends on the test and how diluted the FMU is, but I have seen lots of pics online of faint tests that turned stronger a bit later.

I have a darker line today - still not as dark as the test line but there is progression. Today is my OTD so I will let the clinic know but still vv cautious at this stage. Mine don't do bloods either which is annoying! Could you pay for a private test?

[SABS86]

Thank you I am super cautious too. It was a First Response. My husband seems to think it was the same for when I first tested positive with my son but I remember it being darker. And then like you say I've read alot of stories about the lines going darker later or for some, just remaining faint but still having a successful pregnancy.

That's great that your line is getting darker. Keeping my fingers crossed for you.

Today is my OTD too, I've emailed the clinic and asked if they will do bloods will see what they say. I would definitely pay for a private blood test. When would your scan be?

I did test yesterday and the line today was the same but then HcG only doubles every 48 hours so will test again tomorrow. I'm going to end up spending so much money on tests 😂 x

[orangecatmum in reply to SABS86]

Omg tests are so crazy expensive aren't they! I won't test now until I'm back from a short holiday, so on Wednesday. I hope I manage to stay sane - but we shall see!My clinic have given me a scan date of August 8 - have you got yours? And have you got an update from them about having bloods done? I think mine are just like 'yep, nothing we can do now, good luck and see you in 3 weeks!' 😂

I have 3 weeks of sheer anxiety ahead of me. If I make it that far! X

[SABS86 in reply to orangecatmum]

They really are! And i only want to use First Response if I switched between tests i would drive myself even more crazy analysing results.

Thats lovely I hope you enjoy your break and manage to stay sane!

No my clinic won't email back until Monday now. I have a feeling they will say the same as your clinic. But on my discharge form it said a scan would be booked 2 weeks from my OTD.

I am so nervous, that faint line is worrying me. Going to test again tomorrow and hope it's darker.

Hope you have a lovely break xx