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Hello all, I haven’t posted in a wile because of the awful 3rd cycle we’ve been through.

Everything was going well, 22 follicles and got 17 eggs at egg collection and ICSI was used. Initially delighted and so was team. The phone call from embryologist the following morning - only 8 had fertilised -8! Which is low for ICSI. Fast forward to day 5 and we had nothing to transfer. Nothing. Shocked! Heartbroken! Anger! Hysterical. Every emotion I’ve experienced with a heavy heart the past 2 weeks! Sometimes enough is enough.

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CAS2 profile image
CAS2

I'm really sorry to hear this after such a promising round. Must be heartbreaking. Have they given you any more information? Were your eggs mature? I only ask because out consultant realised my follicles have to be really big to generate decent eggs (17mm +) so kept me going for much longer., higher dose, longer trigger. The biggest ones were nearly double that size too. And had a much better round. Might be worth investigating. We also both took loads of supplements. Hope you take some time out to heal and feel better xxx

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Violet1987 in reply toCAS2

Yes, they said that initially we had 18 eggs and 17 were mature.

Have follow up appointment on Friday and I don’t know what state I’ll be in.

I’ve had lots of mature eggs on both previous rounds so I’m really not sure what’s going on. I’m usually not a quitter but I don’t want to waste time if ICSI isn’t going to work. We’ve already had 2 failed cycles and a miscarriage. The months have now become years.

Thank you so much for your post. Hope everything moving in right direction for you 😘 xx

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CAS2 in reply toViolet1987

I hope you get some answers. It is a very tough journey. Stay strong xx

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Georgie17

This is surprising. Have they offered any reasons for this. I am so sorry x

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Violet1987 in reply toGeorgie17

Thank you. Not over phone. Will hopefully get some answers. Doctor did say that the fertilisation was very disappointing for ICSI x

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Georgie17 in reply toViolet1987

I struggle to understand what could have been the issue so i hope you get some answers soon and sorry I can't offer any more insight. Xx

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Melodys99

I'm sorry it's so bloody hard, I start round 4 in January.

I'm not sure if it will help but we've found a really good urologist in london and I wish I'd got my husband to do the comet test before we started with all this last December. Xxx

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Violet1987 in reply toMelodys99

It is hard. I’m just so shocked after all the research I read, consultant telling us ICSI was definitely way forward as procedure will fertilise more eggs - when it’s actually been a worse round than our previous two IVF. Just so devastated and feel that it’s a huge sign.

What tests do urologist do? X

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Melodys99 in reply toViolet1987

I'm sorry assisted conception is just awful at times. Male fertility looks at DNA fragmentation and other Male issues Xxx

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Picalilli99

I’m so sorry that your round ended without anything to transfer. Such a devastating disappointment after everything that you have to go through to get there. We have had similar experiences with drastic embryo deterioration and not reaching day 5, despite good numbers of eggs. So frustrating! I hope you find your follow up appointment helpful and manage to get some answers. Sending big hugs xxxx

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Violet1987 in reply toPicalilli99

Thank you. I’m so sorry you’ve experienced similar, it’s just tragic. We feel cheated. Gone through everything again for nothing x

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Melrey

Hi Violet

I do feel for you. All our embryos stopped developing before day five also despite being top quality.

I would also recommend your other half has a dna fragmentation test as dna fragmentation can be a reason why they don’t make day 5.

In your previous cycles did any reach day 5.

Sending love during this horrible time x

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Italy300618

Hi Violet, I am so so sorry to hear this you really must be devastated. And after such amazing numbers of eggs collected, it seems so unfair that you havent made it to transfer.

This is my second round, my first round I had 10 eggs and only 1 fertilised that didnt end up being viable for transfer, I never thought that this would even happen and was heartbroken. I am now so nervous the same will happen again.

You are so strong to have come this far, sometimes I dont know how people keep going after so much grief, losses and setbacks, but I am sure that with a big rest and deserved time out you will come back fighting.

The embryologist didnt give us reasons, they said my eggs were all mature, sperm looked good, it was just bad luck. I dont like this response as I would rather know what the reason is. Sometimes there isn't one and it is just luck. I think we would look at genetic testing on my husbands sperm if the same was to happen again.

Let me know what the embryologist say, I'm so sorry again xx

I am so sorry to hear about your upsetting experience. I can totally understand how frustrating it is. You should definitely ask your consultant to advise on next steps. In the meantime, try to do anything to pamper yourself and relax! You have been so strong and to go through tough ivf treatments. Take care!!!

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SharlyWarly

I know you must be gutted right now. Find out what you can on Friday but I would think of it like this, if those eggs and sperm were not 'good' then you might have ended up transferring ones that ether weren't going to work or might have lead to miscarriage. Some you just have to let go and try again. Sorry hope that isn't coming across as too brutal.

I hope you were just unlucky this time and the next round you get perfect embryos to put back :-)

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GELL18

Words cannot say how sorry iam for your pain... sending hugs and praying for your strength...

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saraht23

So sorry to read what you’re going through.

It’s horrible when it doesn’t work out the way you expect. We are currently in the middle of our second cycle, on our first we had 9 retrieved and egg quality all looked great, they said they could have got more but because of where the follicles were on the outsides of my ovaries they would have been more painful, even with all the drugs I remember quite clearly them saying “9 should be more than enough”. We used ICSI due to male factor infertility and next morning got the call, nothing had fertilised. This cycle they don’t want to change anything up as apparently in cases with total failure to fertilise approx 30% achieve fertilisation on a second round. All I can focus on is the 70% chance of the same thing happening again and how crushed I felt after that. Feeling even more negative after my first scan last week where they only counted 8 follicles. I just don’t know how to try to stay positive

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