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Cycle cancelled....again

As the post says the scan today confirmed I was having some sort of period with lining only measuring 4.9mm so cycle cancelled. Sort of getting used to this now! Waited in the clinic for a followup and they are now allowing me to try a natural cycle of sorts, so got to wait for next period then start using ovulation sticks. Once I get a smiley face I'm then to use an hcg trigger injection, wait a day and then start quad therapy, lubion instead of cyclogest and throw in some oestrogen tablets. They will then scan me the day before transfer is due. Fingers crossed this has a better outcome, as it looks like my body just doesn't respond to high dose oestrogen. Gives me 6 weeks to concentrate of losing weight! Joined weight watchers last week and at tonight's weigh in lost 3 1/2lb, so treated myself to a chicken kebab 🙌🤣 so looking forward to 6 wks of weight loss to keep my mind busy and also looking forward to trying a more natural cycle! I've naturally been pregnant 3 times before, although lost them all, but my body knows it can get pregnant so hoping with good grade blasts and the right treat my body can pull off what seems like the unimaginable!!

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Aww sorry to hear this, I have been thinking of you. Hopefully the natural cycle will do the trick. Well done on your weight loss (I could just eat a chicken kebab now lol) here if you need anything xxx

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Aww bless you and thank you Button 😘 it's funny as I was only thinking of you after I wrote the post and thought you literally can't be far off now?! How long to go? Very exciting times ahead for you 😊😊xx

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I am 36 weeks tomorrow, starting to get a little nervous now but mega excited to know if it’s a boy or girl xx

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How exciting!! When do you finish work? Bet you can't wait! Xx

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I was lucky enough to finish at Christmas as used hols and then start mat leave next month. It’s been nice just pottering around and taking it a little slower xx

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How nice you finished at Christmas and have some time for yourself to relax a little and get everything ready. Please keep us all updated when your little beaut arrives 😊xx

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I certainly will I have been chatting to some of you ladies for years, I also plan to hang around in the backgroundso I can see all those much deserved BFP’s ❤️❤️❤️

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Awwww Button! That's lovely of you! Xxx

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Oh and the chicken (and donor meat 🙈) kebab was worth every mouthful! Haha! Xx

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Sounds yummy 🤤

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Awww hun, gutted for you! However it does sound like they have a plan and you are getting to do the natural cycle that you wanted to try. You sound very positive even with all these set back so massive pat on the back and well done on your first week of weight loss!!👏 I started a diet this week, hadnt realised how much weighy I'd put on so keep at it, youre doing great!!xxx

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Aw thank you Cinders, what lovely words 😘 I feel really ok about it, it's like when your trying naturally and your period arrives and it's that sort of mmmaahh type feeling, but looking forward to trying what I've wanted to for months, and if it doesn't work that month I'll insist on it again the following month. Standing on those scales last week confirmed I've put on 2 1/2 stone in 2yrs 😩 not just the drugs, but all the shit you eat when this journey never goes according to plan, so onwards and upwards as they say! Walking 3 miles a day with the dogs too, so that will all hopefully help! One of my dogs looked at me like I was crazy when the other night at 10pm I was shouting walkies 😂😂 when are you off to Greece, this month isn't it? Xx

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Yep I kind of felt that way when my lining wasn't right for great transfer...just p!ssed of massively! Your poor dogs getting dragged out at 10pm!!😨🐶 I've put on around 1.5 stone in the last 2.5yrs since we got married.😩 Urrgghhh as you say, not just the drugs we're taking but all the eating crap and drinking too much wine after everything has gone wrong along with treats to cheer myself up. I've pretty much just made myself miserable now but had some fun times in there so enough is enough!!👊

Off to Greece on 24th Jan for hysteroscopy etc so not long to go for me now. Hopefully they find something wrong with me....that sounds bad but you know what I mean!!🤣xx

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Haha! Yeah I know exactly what you mean! Will they be able to tell you straight away the results? Fingers crossed for you that it gives you some answers.

Let's all get on the weight loss ban waggon! Has made me feel much better this week and hoping now I'm off oestrogen again that next week will be a good loss too 😂xx

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I'm hoping they'll be able to tell me if my womb is normal or if they've fixed anything but the bloods & biopsies will take a but longer. I'm guessing they'll have to collaborate everything and make a plan for next transfer which all being well should be March time.

Onwards and upwards as you say, let's get some weight off!! I'm sure getting of the oestrogen will help loads!!xx

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Fingers crossed we'll be cycling together and a stone at least lighter come March!! 👊🏻

Hope the get the results to you quickly. Everything is a waiting game with all this ivf lark isn't it! Xx

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It sure is hun but we'll get there!! Oh a stone lighter seems so long away....we can do it!!xx

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hey hun..so sorry for you again..it is just so hard when you get your hopes up but natural cycles are so much easier. also totally with you and cinders above on the weight gain so I reckon we can all spur each other on there..I have gained about 2.5 stone too😢totally sucks and I blame the drugs but then also myself oh and the gin and crisps and dip 😂well done on the positive mindet too..you got this😙much love xxxx

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Aw thanks Vic! Yes let's all spur each other on 👏👏 it can only be a good thing!! I blame the vodka, crisps and numerous takeaways when I've been too down to cook, the good old vicious circle!

How are you getting on? Did you decide on 1 or 2?? If and hopefully when I get to that point I've opted to try 2 😬 xx

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lol I know that feeling. my dh has been so fab cooking dinners which was something I used to enjoy but since all this I just can't be arsed 😯 lost 4lb when I weighed myself today😁so just need to keep losing until treatment and steroid injections result in it all going back on again..this is so tough😢I am ok scratch next week then transfer next month😯still haven't decided on 1 or 2..I just don't want to lose all hope at once then face another fresh at my age..just so difficult all of this xx

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4lbs!! Well done you!!👏xx

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cheers hun..using that my fitness pal app..very addictive which is better than being addicted to crisps and dips 😂xx

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🤣🤣 brilliant! Keep at it! Xx

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Ive been using it too. Feel like Im on the checkouts whenever I go to eat something! Ha ha ha xx

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Ooh well done in the weight loss! That's brilliant 👏🙌 yeah the good old steroid weight gain 😩 feel your pain! And it is so tough! Hope your scratch goes well, and gets you all ready for next month 😊 the decision on one or 2 is so hard, and if it were my last two I really wouldn't know what to decide. Maybe wait until the day and go with what ever your gut feeling says 👍 keep us updated lovely xxx

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cheers hun. ..we might be cycling together then😁we going to ask advice next week at scratch..have asked to speak to both consultant and embryologist as 1 said 1 and the other said 2..not helpful 😯xx

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Follow the guy on the day! There's 2 ways of looking at it for you which makes it harder. They May Day that because it's not worked previously with 1 then try 2, but as it's your last 2 then it's a really tough decision. Hope they can give you some good advice xxx

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Oh hon how frustrating for you 😫 Well done on your weight loss and for being so pragmatic about it all Sounds like the doctors have a good plan though so fingers crossed it works for you and you’re right your body has done it before so this is possible Keeping the faith lovely 😊 xx

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Thanks CheshireKit 😘 I've got to focus on something positive otherwise think I'd go stir crazy!! Hope things are progressing with you xxx

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Good on you, best way to be 👍🏼😊 We’ve agreed on a donor!! Just got to pay the big bill now then we’ll find out about timings. I want the endo scratch so I reckon treatment might be March depending on where we’re at with cycles. It doesn’t feel real yet as it’s been going on for so long - it’s a year since my last round of IVF! 😳🤞🏼👼🌈 xxx

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Whoop whoop CheshireKit! Exciting times ahead....apart from handing over the money!xx

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Thank you Cinderella5 😘 Hope you’re doing ok? Xx

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All good Thanks! Investigations soon then hopefully crack on with a plan & FET in March.xx

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Sounds good 👍🏼 Fingers crossed for a productive spring for all of us 🐣xx

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Fabulous news!!! 😊😊 bet you can't wait to get started again!

I was offered the scratch but as my linings not good I opted against it, but see how the next month goes and may consider it. But had had 3 in the last year so thought I'd have a break from them.

We may all end up cycling together! 😊😊👏xx

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Yay fingers crossed for us 🤞🏼👏🏻👏🏻😊🌈xx

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Ah sorry to read this, but wishing you luck on your natural round... Positive vibes coming your way xxx 💋

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Aw thank you Jaky. Hope all is going well with you and your little one xx

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Yes thanks.. He almost 11 weeks old.. Can't believe where time gone... Just spurring you lovely ladies on to get your miracles too... 💋 💋 xx

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Sorry to hear your cycle was cancelled. Sending you lots of luck for the next six weeks as you prepare for a natural cycle. You are sounding very determined xx

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Thanks Dunla, feel like as it's what I want that I've had a new lease of life! Will try next month and the month after if needed the natural way and then maybe have to succumb to the meds again 😳

Hope all is going well with you, won't be long till transfer day now for you 😊 sending lots of luck xxx

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Thank you 😊 Feels strange not having any stims injections to do! Scan on Wednesday to check lining. Hoping all will be ok for ET last week in January x

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Oh baby2016, I’m so sorry to hear this. You must be feeling so disappointed, I’m disappointed for you. Hopefully the natural cycle will do the trick 👍

We start our fresh DE cycle next month, so we will be cycle buddies. Enjoy your chicken kebab, sounds yummy!! And well done on the weight loss, very jealous!! xxx

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Hi Dolly 😊 thanks for your reply. I'm feeling quite positive strangely, but looking forward to a break off the meds as it's been 3 months on them all now!

Ooh not long for you now then! Bet your getting excited! Keep us posted on your progress xxx

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Will do my love xxxx

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Ohh I’m sorry to hear this, you must be so frustrated. Just a thought but have you tried acupuncture? I know it’s not for everyone but a friend of mine who had similar lining issues found it helped her having a few sessions before she tried again xxxx

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Thanks Sprinkles!! I've been having accupuncture for the last 2 months, and on last months try was having it twice a week 🙄 spent a small fortune on it really. But going to go back to an accupuncturist I used over a year ago as he seemed to make a difference but was just further to get too, so hoping the change will help.

Huge congrats on finding out about your baby boy!! Must make it all the more real now. Keep us all posted on your progress xxx

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Sorry to hear your cycle has been cancelled. It sounds like you have a plan sorted and fingers crossed it all helps!

Well done on your loss, I have done WW before and lost a lot of weight so it definitely works!

I’ve just had my cycle cancelled before I even started meds as my oestrogen is far too high, clinic has put me on the pill for three weeks then will have another blood test in a month to see if we can go ahead!

Wishing you luck with your next round xxx

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Aw thank you Lian. Sorry to hear yours has been cancelled too. I never understand the whole thing about certain levels being too high. Mine must have been through the roof, but was never tested. I have weed so much today! Lol! This always happens when I come off the tablets as they seem to give me water rentention so hoping for a big weight loss next week 🤣🤣

I find weight watchers much easier to stick to than slimming world. Think it's the restriction that helps but still allows me crisps and bread 👍

Hope your levels sort themselves out next month for you xxx

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I’m on slimming world now got 10lbs to go to target weight but I can’t seem to stop snacking 🐷 I’m thinking to myself I now have 4 weeks to get my bum in gear before hopefully we start again next month!

Hoping it works out for you when you hoping to start your next round? Xx

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Blinkin Nora! Well done for being so positive and for your weight loss! x

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Thanks Emu! I'm determined to shift these wobbly extra pounds! Haha! Xx

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Me too! Weigh in Saturday! x

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Haha! Looks like there's a lot of us who have replied on her on a mission with their weight loss. Hoping you get a good result come Saturday. I've pretty much eaten all my extra points for the week in one meal out tonight as thought I'd chosen healthy to then realise afterwards it was the wrong option 😆 never mind!

Let's all get the determination to shake off those lbs! 👊🏻😊xx

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Oh I’m so sorry to hear this! The natural cycle sounds promising and at least it’s a different protocol to what you have been doing. Best of luck and good plan to keep yourself busy before the next cycle begins.

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Thanks beebeestar! I'm feeling pretty good considering. Just hope it does work out ok in the end. Fingers crossed for your lining thickening up, I'm sure it will be just fine 😊xxx

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I hope so hun! I’ve got a second scan next Tuesday, so we will see xxx

Look after you!

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Hi baby2016, I am quite new here and was directed to your post as we seem to be in a similar situation... I also have been struggling with a thin lining after starting with the estradiol (it was 7.3mm naturally this summer, darn!), and since yesterday (day 15 of quite a high dose cycle) I have been bleeding lightly, and my lining today was a meagre 4.5, already more than 1mm thinner than last week. :-( I really don't think estradiol works for me, I am not sure whether the doctor will insist on it... I am waiting to hear from her. I am very puzzled and do not understand what is going on. It's interesting to see that you have been put on a more natural cycle, I really wish you the best with it.

Anyway, just to let you know you are not alone ;-) Although you probably knew that already. I am also interested to see that I am not the only one who is gaining weight... well, very good luck with your slimming program. :-) Warm wishes, VG.

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Aw VannaGio! Firstly welcome 😊 this site is amazing for advice and support.

Secondly thank you so much for your reply. Sounds like we are in a very similar situation, and it helps loads to know your not alone as it were.

I'm convinced it's my body doesn't agree with the 'fake' oestrogen. But the proof will be in the pudding as such. If mine isn't thicker naturally next month I'm going to ask for another month of just natural as it may take my body a few months to get back into it's natural rhythm with being on the tablets and patches on and off for 3 months. I'm stating accupuncture again this week to see if that helps and changing my specialist to try one I had last year that seemed to help. It is so frustrating though. I mentioned natural cycle a few months ago but they insisted they wanted me medicated but now as I have regular periods (unless the oestrogen messed them up) then there prepared for me to try it as long as I take the additional meds as well, which I'm more than happy to do.

Thanks re the weight loss, I've really thrown myself into it as a distraction and walked 12miles this weekend, so hoping for another loss tomorrow. Oestrogen really effects my weight and I feel sooo much better to be off it. I have a feeling that if ivf is going to work for me it will be down the natural route, and I know from being on here a while it has for many others.

I hope your doctors come back to you with a different plan. Feel free to message me at anytime. Sending lord of luck your way xxx

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Thanks for your quick and kind reply, and your welcome! Indeed this forum is pretty amazing! :-)

Indeed, I just heard from my doctor. She told me to stop the estradiol as it seems not to work for me, and we will try with a natural cycle when/if I get ready. She is also recommending the ERA test, if I get to at least 6mm. It looks promising, but it's expensive... (920 euros in CZ), and I worry it might have to be repeated, depending on the result.

Like you, I have felt that the 'fake' estradiol is not for me, from the beginning. Last summer at my first visit I was at 7.3mm without any hormones. We decided to go with HRT though because it seemed more practical (for various reasons). My first attempt with estradiol patches was last October (I was going for FET directly), it did not go well (6.5mm + cyst), so we tried to go natural next - but it did not work either! Sgrunt. I kept having cramps and light bleeding after the (induced) period, so no surprise that my scan at day 10 gave a pathetic result (4mm). I waited ca. 40 days, no period (but back to 7mm at day 32!), and then induced a bleed with progesterone, and then started with a higher dose of estradiol, which worked even less than the first time (5.8mm; 4.5mm today). As you say, soooo frustrating!

Sorry just recounting my story for the record and comparison purposes... and also to say that indeed it might take longer for the body to 'reset' than just one cycle. Not to be pessimistic!! Just saying one might need to be very patient (deep breath). So let's keep optimistic! :-) I am actually relieved to come off the patches and pills! Let me know how it goes for you, I will be sending positive vibes and best wishes! xx

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Sounds like we are in a similar situation then! What's the ERA test and what does it test for?

For now, as you I'm just enjoying being off all the meds and having a normal life. I've gone back to my original accupuncturist who got me to 9mm last year (never happened since) and decided I'm going to incorporate the Chinese herbs this time as well! My NHS doc was really against them, but as it's not worked yet I'm prepared to give them a go!

Keep us posted on your progress, hopefully us thin lining women will get their eventually 👍😊xx

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Keeping everything crossed for you xx

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