Thought I'd start a thread for those of us in the 2WW trying not to lose our minds. I actually feel surprisingly sane for a change. Not only do I not feel any symptoms whatsoever from any of the many many meds that seem to be in all orifices but I currently feel thinner than normal, having not exercised for well over a week! My only symptom thus far is the occasional what I can only describe as a low level "vaginal" cramp. Didn't even know you could get cramp inside (and kind of outside) the actual vagina, but here we are. Who else is in their two week wait and what are you doing to distract yourself?
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hi, I’m also on a tww! Had my fet yesterday. Been taking Cylogest for about a week now and had period style cramps a few days before fet….and signs of a period, sore boobs, cramps, etc, which in my head I feel like my period was well on its way before my fet. 🤦🏼♀️
Today I’ve felt a few cramps, period like cramps and the odd sharp ovary twinge. I’m already in my head got the feeling it’s not worked and I’m guna get my period any day now. It makes me scared every time I go loo.
Wishing you all the best! 🤞🏻 hoping we both don’t go insane over the next few days! lol.
Today I’ve binged watched “virgin river” on Netflix and just had a chill day with warm socks on. lol. X
Thanks for getting back to me and welcome to your 2ww! Have you had transfers before? When I had my first one I started to bleed very bright red blood 5dpt and then it stopped, it was neither implantation nor my period and I have no clue why it happened! Very much what I didn't want to see when I went to the loo though! I'm on 400mg cyclogest pessaries twice per day and lubion injections for progesterone too. Did they check your levels on the day of your transfer? Hopefully your symptoms are merely a sign of the meds doing their work. I'm immune to side effects it seems and I have very painless periods too so I don't even sense my period coming in terms of how I feel.
Did you enjoy Virgin River? I hear it's very good so maybe I will get involved. I've been watching The Decameron and the Olympics.
Yes, we had 1 fresh and 2 frozen about 5 years ago, but then I was diagnosed with cancer so that put a stop to our ivf journey. All 3 of those failed, I could never get past day6 before I bled, but full on like a period bleed. They couldn’t give us an answer back then, just said it was unexplained infertility.
This time around we did the ERA tests, and it showed I had 0% good bacteria. (Possibly I’ve never had any which might be why it didn’t work before, but will never know the answer). I took probiotics but it stayed at zero for a few months after several retests, but then I got one result in march and it had improved to 13%. My clinic didn’t want to keep doing the tests as I was on my 5th one and they were causing infections every time they did them. 🤦🏼♀️
My new clinic checked my progesterone levels yesterday and said they were fine. I’m on 2x 400mg Cylogest a day.
Yea it’s been a good chill out watch. Decided it wasn’t something hubby would fancy so gave me the opportunity to watch it. lol. X
Hi, i am also in 2WW, had fet on 6th of Aug.oh my goodness I had very similar symptoms to you. I had period psin even before my final scan a week before fet and I was convinced my period was going to start too. Since fet I too have had the odd twinge and for some days last week I didn't feel anything but for the last 2 days the period pain is back, and I end up going to the loo just to check as well. Am crossing my fingers for you. I have been binge watching game of thrones , it has really helped take my mind off for a while., best of luck to you 👍
on the two week wait train and all I can say ladies is get yourself a puzzle! Strange I know, but it’s currently keeping my mind busy and (most of the time) off my phone
Hi, I’m in TWW too! My OTD is Monday 🫣
I’ve been up and down throughout with worry. I had an FET. Only had a fresh transfer before and it failed - bled 7dp5dt and it was almost like it was a chemical - severe cramps but was on less proegesterone that time too.
I’ve had twinges, pokes and mild cramps since transfer, but now just the odd cramp on and off but it’s mild. Have extremely sore boobs (some days it lessens slightly) but had this since before FET and got worse once starting progesterone. I’m on 3x cyclogest daily and 1x lubion. I’m pretty sure all my symptoms are just the meds. I’ve already told myself it prob hasn’t worked as I don’t really have any other symptoms apart from tiredness. I feel like as I don’t have sore nipples it can’t have worked as that’s always been the case when I have been before although miscarried so no children as of yet.
Really wishing everyone the best. It’s so tough and especially when you know you did so much prep this time to get things as right as can be!
I have read some stories of people who have cramps and on and off symptoms - convinced it hadn’t worked but had. So hang on in there!
Has anyone else experienced any vaginal dryness with the pessaries? I know they cause the leakage from the wax but in the last several days, I’ve noticed it’s more dry and very tight! Almost difficult to get the pessary in! Never had that before. Another reason I don’t feel so positive.
Also had the odd vaginal pain too! Odd.
Cross stitch is great for keeping you distracted too! Also some Good Netflix series and cooking nice meals
Best of luck everyone 💜🍀
thanks for starting the thread! 💜
When was your transfer? Was it fresh or FET?
have also experienced the odd vaginal cramp- very strange aren’t they!
Wishing you all the best! Xxx
Hello! Thanks for replying. It sounds like no matter what happens many of us sit in the zone of thinking it's probably failed but hoping to be wrong! You're on more progesterone than I am. I've entered the zone now where I'm checking for blood every time I go to the bathroom. I had my transfer on Monday. OTD is Monday 19th August but I'll start doing early detection tests from Wednesday. I'm always lectured about not doing this and I never listen :). My transfer was a frozen. My fresh transfer felt like a waste of an embryo, my body was not in the right place I don't think after the egg collection and I had very very intense cramps in the night where I felt my body was perhaps rejecting the embryo (I might be making that up but it felt abnormal). My second transfer was pretty smooth with no side effects. This is my third and if this one fails we'll go for another egg collection and I won't be doing a fresh transfer as I want to get them all PGTA tested.
As for your question about the Cyclogest pessaries, I don't take them vaginally I take them rectally which is apparently sometimes favoured because of less leakage this way. Although I have heard people not wanting to go down this route out of discomfort of administering them. I take progynova vaginally and find the vaginal route harder.
Aw well wishing you all the very best! Often people find it takes 2 or more attempts which is heartbreaking but seems to be a reality. Praying this one sticks for you. You’re right about the body needing to be in the right place for fresh. Mine wasn’t and my lining wasn’t great. It was also a 1AA so very early body that had turned blast two hours before transfer! This time I had 5AA and lining much better but I’m on more meds with oestrogen and progesterone and I always worry if that will affect things negatively or not.
I had exactly the same with my fresh with awful cramping and bleeding and it felt like what you said. I’ve had a natural miscarriage before and it felt just like that. So hard not to compare but I guess I shouldn’t. Thanks for letting me know about the cyclogest.
Really hoping you get your BFP and sending positive thoughts your way! X
Had my transfer this morning, came on here looking for 2WW posts!
Only had one little eggy this time round on egg collection so feeling incredibly lucky it made it to blastocyst and transfer, wishing everyone the best x
I also do Cylogest rectally!! So much easier and less mess!!
I’ve been taking Optibac, the purple boxed one. It’s 3 for 2 on the boots website. It concentrates on womb bacteria rather than gut bacteria. It states dose to be 1-2 a day but I’ve been taking 3. 🤦🏼♀️ lol.
Sending wishes and lots of baby dust to everyone waiting now. Horrible anxious time for us all! 🤦🏼♀️ xx
I’m also now in panic mode as I forgot to set my alarm for my Cylogest so I’ve done that an hour late!! 🤦🏼♀️ I’ve just been on the google train and lots of people saying it shouldn’t hurt but now I’m kicking myself that I forgot! 🤦🏼♀️😢
If it makes you feel any better on the day of my transfer I didn’t take my cyclogest because I wanted my blood test to be on the lower side so I could take more (a slightly mad move I know!). It was fine it was actually still super high and then I took the pessary immediately after. My clinic has only ever been strict with the timings of certain drugs and cyclogest I have been told morning and evening but not a specific time. I remember during the prep part I had to take one drug at 7am every morning. Other than that I have been quite chilled. I also accidentally started blood thinners 24hours late. I’m terrible 😂
I would say it’s ok. Mine is roughly every 8 hours. Sometimes is a bit less and sometimes a bit more - it’s so hard to do it bang on sometimes. I think it’s fine and good that you’re keeping on track with it generally anyway. X
how’s everyone in their tww getting on?
Any symptoms? Xx
I just did an early detection pregnancy test and I’m confused beyond confused by the “result”. I’m only 7 days past frozen transfer but I always cave 😬. I just got this overwhelmingly intense urge. I have no symptoms.
what was the result?? 😳
I’m feeling ok, little crampy in my ovaries every now and again, but that’s it. Just dread every time I go toilet! 🤦🏼♀️ xx
I bled last night but I realised quickly it was from my bum!! The cyclogest play havoc with that area!! The result is a very faint line. I popped a photo in another post. I don’t know whether to believe it or not because I have tested too early. Hope you don’t start to bleed at all. Even if it’s implantation bleeding I think it is just alarming to see blood of any kind.
Hi, currently on my 2WW, transfer was on Friday in Barcelona, flew back Saturday. I’m still working, it’s my 6th FET, for me carrying on as normal is the best way. Had a short bike ride yesterday with me partner, I did think of taking some time off but I’d be so bored and over think everything so work seems the best option. Hope you are doing ok, so lovely to have a group of people going through the same thing at the same time. Sending positive thoughts your way xx
Hi all,
I'm about to join you guys as I've got a fresh transfer the day after tomorrow. I'm a newbie, first time round to all this and it's way more weird experiences than I expected!
I'm on cyclogest too, twice a day, and also don't like it. Had cramps yesterday and last night, and also in weird places like aching right down in my labia when I was walking to the shops. Really uncomfortable! I guess some of it is still me recovering from egg collection too. Going to try and chill a bit more today.
Sending best wishes to you all x
Hello! I hope your transfer tomorrow goes smoothly. I have always enjoyed transfer day, it is painless and quick and after you get to be lazy which I recommend fully embracing. You’re right about recovering from egg collection. I think fresh cycles are tough in terms of all the extra hormones needed. Xx
hi everyone. Good luck to you all! I’m day 6 of frozen transfer and wow the days are going slow. We’ve made one embryo in 6 years so there’s a lot of pressure on this and it’s our last chance. So my mind is going crazy and switching from feeling happy that we have this opportunity and it may be working, to feeling like it’s hopeless and not worked. It’s so difficult
I was constipated for a few days after transfer. From day 4 I’ve been going a LOT. I had cramps on day 3 but not much else. Really extreme exhaustion. Today is the first day I’ve not fallen asleep in the day and I’ve actually been able to do some things. The exhaustion and dizziness was crazy. But they upped my meds on transfer day so maybe the progesterone hike took it out of me. They said they up to 130 now and they seem happy. 🤷♀️
Quick note on probiotics. I had zero good bacteria too. I’ve been working on it since January and it’s much better than it was. But I was told to stop taking all probiotics during progesterone meds. I don’t know why but might be worth querying with consultants for those of you that mentioned you’re taking them still.
Good vibes to you all! 🤞❤️
Morning! Hope you’re staying sane! It’s so much pressure!! I’m not on probiotics myself but that’s interesting info, I wonder what the reasoning is. How are you holding up?
Maybe it's just due to progesterone messing with the digestive system a bit so maybe probiotics as well can be too much for the gut. I'm not sure.
How are you doing? This is so hard! I might test this weekend so I'm testing on a work day rather than a week day. Our test day is supposed to be Weds at 2 weeks. I have a consistent tightness almost like a pulled muscle lower right which I hoped was a good sign but I'm now wondering if it's something else or possible a bad thing. Who knows. It's all driving me a bit mad.
That would make sense. I was taking Symprove in the lead up to ivf without knowing it might help. I didn’t notice any changes to anything so I stopped taking it.
I’m okay but I’ve had a bit of a dramatic morning. I’ve been given a full two week wait too but decided to test on day 7 past transfer because I just lack self-control and I’ve got two embryos in there. I got a very faint positive and things had been moving in the right direction ever since. This morning I tested and at the 3 minute mark the line was really really pale. After 30 mins it was similar to yesterday’s but I couldn’t trust it. This caused me to think I was having a chemical miscarriage. I waited 4 hours and retested and have the strongest positive line I’ve ever had. So all okay now in that department. I have also been in bed all week with Covid but other than that all is okay. I can’t tell if I have any pregnancy symptoms really because of the Covid. I had weird vaginal cramps a few days back and earlier today I had a couple of mild womb cramps but honestly nothing to write home about at all, no sore boobs and any nausea is very much covid I would say. I always test early (usually day 9) but if you get a positive it doesn’t necessarily make the week easier because then you are waiting and hoping and testing every day and then if the line fades it’s so stressful.
Oh gosh, odd that it can change but I guess sometimes you might have a dodgy test as well. That's great news though! So happy for you! Awful about covid though. Keep hydrated! I had it just before we transferred and they cancelled the cycle so I've been on the meds since June, basically doing the entire process twice. Such a pain. The same happened to us with egg collection, catching covid the day before collection and they cancelled then too. It's such a horrible horrible illness. Hope you feel better soon.
I think I'll test on day 10. I feel like it should be a solid enough result by then.
Hi everyone,
I’ve just found this community today during my 2WW.
My FET was last Friday so trying anything and everything to distract myself until next OTD next Thursday.
Thanks so much for starting this thread, reading everyone’s messages brings so much comfort and genuine support.
Question - do people count transfer day as day 0 or 1? I’ve seen conflicting things online so any steer on the norm is appreciated!
Good luck everyone - and in case useful, my distraction techniques have been rewatching Desperate Housewives (there’s tons of episodes!), making myself get out for a walk each day and taking my time preparing/cleaning after meals 😂
Ana x
Hi Ana! I hope you’re doing well! I don’t know what the answer to your question is exactly. I count the next day as 1 day past embryo transfer and so on. X
Thank you! I think I was being creative with day counting so the days where its more reliable to test come around quicker 😂 x
Oh God it’s just horrendous waiting isn’t it!! I’ve been testing positive since day 7 past transfer but now at day 10 my line is weaker than yesterday so I’m now lying here waiting for four hours to retest. Think I might be having a chemical miscarriage. Don’t test early unless you’re happy to feel extra worried for a week 😬😬😬
The wait is harder than I expected. My sister-in-law is 3 months ahead on her ICSI journey and tried to warn me but I underestimated how time obsessed I’d be in the 2WW!
I have everything crossed for you. Try to remember any tests before OTD could be unreliable which of course swings both ways. Thinking of you and sending love💫
You'd think there would be a better way by now somehow than putting us through this awful wait. I've had quite a few symptoms which are typical to progesterone so don't necessarily mean anything but they're driving me even more crazy. I'm extra emotional as well so the idea of a positive pregnancy test pops into my head and I cry. Then I feel like it probably won't work and a cry! ha my poor hubby. But I'm just seeking comfort in that I'm doing all the right things. Walking. Eating well. Taking meds on time. Visualising and meditating sometimes as well. Keeping my uterus happy and warm! and my feet. All we can do is try to feel ok that we're doing/have done what we can. x
Absolutely agree! It was strange reading your comment as it sums up exactly how I’ve been going through it too! Feels so good to know we’re not alone. I try to come back to your last point too, we have done so much - and likely so much more during the 2WW than if we hadn’t been on the IVF/ICSI trains. Sending you a big hug and lots of positivity 😘 x
This might be a stupid question, but do any of you know if we're not successful we'd get a period whilst on the meds? I'm assuming all the progesterone meds stop a period from coming on? So we can't expect to bleed before test day?
You could have a period I think but the meds are supposed to control this. You can also have an implantation bleed. I had bleeding 5 days past transfer on my first cycle and it was bright red rather than the paler implantation type of bleed. It also wasn’t my period because it then stopped and I had my period a few days after I stopped my meds.
I had a full period bleed 6days past a 6day transfer years ago with all 3 of my transfers. All three of those I was on medication so I assumed it would stop a bleed but it definitely was a period.
I’m also pretty certain I’m going to come on my period very soon now, and I’m 7dp5dt. 😢 I’m on Ellesete x5 a day, and cylogest400mg x2 a day.
Hope everyone is doing ok. 😘 xx
Everything crossed for you. I'm feeling less and less hopeful every day I have to say. I don't know why. I just feel empty somehow like there's nothing happening and I just know it's not worked. I'm on day 8, counting transfer day as day 1. No signs of a period but I have quite long cycles anyway so I wouldn't expect it for another week at least. When I had my last transfer cancelled, they told my to stay on progynova so that my period wouldn't start. Then onto norithisterone. So that's what confused me.
I'm on a lot of meds. 2 Lubion injections, 1 Inhixa injection, 3 cyclogest and 5 progynova.
I guess our bodies can be all over the place on the medication and anything could happen! xxx
I am half way through, 3rd round but first transfer, hoping for the best