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How many TYPE 2 diabetics are under 30?

Hi. I wanted to know how many type 2 diabetics in this forum are below 30 and how are they maintaining their BS along with their profession, as well?

I am 29 and diabetic since 2 years ago. Hba1c is in the range of 5 to 6. I am following low carb (120 grams per day) and high fat diet. I am a software engineer by profession so having a sedentary lifestyle. I walk 3 km a day.

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Type one and type 2 can happen to any one at any time. thin person, fat person all have watch out for sugar intake in food and drinks!

You can go on a life style change, regular exercise towards healthy life.

How do you measure your Carb intake.

You can eat small portions of food from mid day to 8PM every day, this can be difficult give it a try.

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Why only from noon to 8 pm ??? Till noon, is one supposed to starve ?? Also, considering one has stopped eating at 8 pm, the period of fasting works out to 16 hours.

As far as I am concerned, I finish dinner by 7 pm. If I do not eat breakfast by 7.30 am latest, not only do I feel very hungry, but my blood sugar keeps rising. I suffer from "dawn phenomenon", btw.

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When I was growing up my family used to skip breakfast at least three days a week, every Friday, then there is Monday in one mouth, then there is Tuesday in another month, full moon, dark moon and temple festival and on,so on.

By not eating from 8PM to mid day the next day you are using stored energy.

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I suspected that the "fasting" had more to do with religion than science :-)

As I have already said, this will not apply to me as my blood sugar rises until I eat something in the morning.

To each their own, of course :-)

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Religion and Science, why are temples and place of worship is on a hill?

Why do people go around the place of worship few times.

Was this designed for exercise to keep humans healthy?

New technology, 4x4 transport, cable car, lift, using these there is no exercise.!!

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I have a reason for why religion forces hardships upon her followers----for penance.

To make them suffer for their sins as a sort of retribution.

That it "might" provide some medical benefit is in my view a sheer coincidence.

Again, one is definitely free to believe whatever one thinks fit :-)

Cheers, sandybrown !!

Btw, one of the better oxymorons that i have come across is Christian Science :-)

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sorry, type 1 DM occurs only in children and very young aduts, practically never seen above 30yrs.

the clinical setting for type ! and 2 are different and hence their management is also different.type 1 is always insulin dependent and only partially diet controlled.

Type2 is familial and can be acquired by wrong dietary habits. they are not insulin dependent although finally they may need it when diet and oral drugs cannot control the situation.

please remember in this forum that HBa1C is only a laboratory sign of your average 3 months past diet control,

HBA1c below 6 is potentially prone for hypoglycemia,best to avoid in DM and hence needs correction like adjusting insulin dose avoiding sustained release tablets etc and ,nothing to feel great.if you feel great with HBA1c below 6,check the lab results again from an accredited lab.

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Are you on medication?Otherwise 5 o 6 A1c is quite good.How did you conclude that you are a diabetic? What is your weight?

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I agree. To call oneself a "diabetic" with 5/6 A1c levels is a joke.

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whatsinaname , ramana42

sandybrown

As Indian1990 mentioned he has been diabetic for last two years. He has been controlling his blood sugar through diet and perhaps metformin. Follow the link below: (his old post when he was diagnosed T2D)

healthunlocked.com/diabetes...

What he asked was ' are there young members in the group who are T2D and how do they manage their condition'.

He did not ask for advice on how to manage T2D.

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He should have given some indication of what his BS level once was and how he brought it down to 5/6.

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May be you are right, but he did mention he is following LCHF diet to control his blood sugar. I agree it would have been better to include his BS level on diagnosis.

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You got it right sir.

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Yes, I saw the question, and there were more ........, yes, I failed to answer the question!

"How many type 2 below 30?".

What % of the population below 30 are here with type 2 to give an answer.?

WHO has a lot of information and data!

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Detected with RBS of 630 and Hba1c 14

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You have done a wonderful job in fighting with diabetes. Truly inspiring.

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Type-2 diabetes that normally afflicts older adults is striking young Indians and it’s striking them harder.

Though young people with type-2 diabetes do not need insulin to survive, they are at greater risk of life-threatening complications, such as kidney damage and heart disease, than people with insulin-dependent diabetes.

One in every four (25.3%) people under 25 with diabetes in India has adult-onset type-2 diabetes, which, by definition, should strike only older adults with a family history of diabetes, obesity, unhealthy diets and inactivity, data from the Indian Council of Medical Research’s (ICMR’s) youth diabetes registry shows.

“Youth-onset type-2 diabetes is no longer rare. Family history is strong and obesity, metabolic syndrome and acanthosis nigricans (dark, velvety skin patches) are usually seen in young patients with type-2 diabetes,” says Dr Tanvir Kaur, deputy director general, ICMR.

The registry data shows 56.1% of the registered young diabetics have been hospitalised at least once for acute diabetes-related complications. One in seven (14.1 %) had at least one complication or “co-morbid” condition, such as hypothyroidism, dyslipidaemia (unhealthy blood fats such as cholesterol and triglycerides), hypertension, tuberculosis, or sepsis.

An unhealthy lifestyle – high calorie diet, inactivity and obesity – clearly plays a role, with urban registries recording more type-2 diabetes cases than rural ones.

What’s most important is keeping blood glucose within a healthy range according to Dr Tandon. “Poorly controlled blood glucose in young people with type-2 diabetes means looking at frequent hospitalisation and higher co-morbidities and complications like kidney failure in the 30s.”

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Please read his query - what he is asking for!

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Hi Indian1990

Good to know you are managing your T2D so well. Your HbA1c is really excellent. Do you take metformin or similar medicine along with LCHF diet?

I hope young members, if active in the forum, respond to your query. DI does not collect data on age.

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MF SR 500 mg thrice a day.

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Thanks. Have you considered reducing your carb intake further in order to reduce metformin dose. 120 gm carb though low but still high from blood sugar control point of view.

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That is the max i mentioned .. i generally keep it below 100

Fasting 125

PP 150

Last Hba1c 5.6

RBS 100

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That is good. Great achievement from 630 to 100/150! Keep it up.

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Unfortunately I have lost my balance forever because of high sugar level.

That's why want to know other young people's experience as well.

My sister is also diabetic , she lost 14 kgs after adopting low carb diet and having Hba1c of 4.6

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Sorry to hear about sisters T2D but happy that she could also achieve excellent control on BS. Is she younger/older than you?

Could you also describe your condition regarding loss of balance in little more detail? I do not understand this condition much.

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I am 29 she is 32 .. no medicine only LCHF

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I am having 24 x 7 rocking sensation in my head. Tinnitus as well.

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The metformin dose appears more than indicated by your sugar levels. You can reduce it to ward off it's toxicity. Try to shift to plain metformin instead of sustained release which is probably giving erratic low levels ofsugar and hba1c

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Any medication you need to consult your doctor for dosage!!, medication works Different in different humans!

HbA1C is over 90 days of oxygenated blood. How can a HbA1C give you erratic values?

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it can depending on the rate and consistency of release of oral drugs which are slow with erratic releases and poorly controlled dietary calories

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I agree that any medication or diet plan changes needs to be done with the consultation by a doctor before a patient does anything to be on the safe side of things. Change of any medication or diet before asking a doctor can be dangerous without a doctor’s input.

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All, I am asking for people who are type 2 diabetic and under 30 .. and how they are managing it and their current profession and lifestyle as well.

As I already told what diet I am following I want to ask experiences of other young diabetics too.

Hope all got the question now.

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How do you measure your carb intake?

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Nutrition information + weighing scale

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UK, PM is type 1 from young age, she is managing it very well. She has a patch that communicate to mobile app to monitor blood glucose.

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Here is the question that Indian1990 has asked everyone. It is: "how many type 2 diabetics in this forum are below 30 and how are they maintaining their BS along with their profession, as well?".

I'm not type 2, but for me, I was diabetic when I was an infant and have been working at a job that is keeping me very active. My blood sugars can vary depending on how much movement I do on certain days while being at my job. If I sit at a front desk, there may be less activity for me and the numbers may go up slightly. When I move more, they go down, but not too much. I also use the CGM, so I can see if the numbers are dropping too fast.

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Continuous glucose monitoring (CGM), this may not be available to every one as the device is expensive!.

Are you type 1 or type 2 or type 3?

Do you watch out for free and hidden sugar in food and drinks?

Do you control your diet in any way by measuring your carb intake?

How many people are in this forum?

This post has been very interesting.

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I’m type 1 and I count carbs. while eating a low carb high protein and gluten free diet. This helps keep my numbers even during the day and evening hours. The CGM is used because I don’t know when I’m dropping. I can’t feel lows.

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60,237 members are in the group, in general.

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In UK, there was a TV documentary, this fat Indian long time ago, very informative!

Compared to UK people Indian people are this but because of the fried food and other food intake the hidden blood glucose is very high and this gives a lot of problem.

An Indian cardiologist gave an article about his mother who was a doctor, he said his mother's food intake gave her health problems. This may be true.

We human have to look after our one life.

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Health care people say type 2 start after 40.

The question of type 2 in the age group by the age of 30, "what is the main reason for this question?" We need to look deeper.

Type 4

Salk scientists use this to describe age-related insulin resistance that occurs in lean, elderly people. While type 1 diabetes is a result of the immune system destroying insulin-producing cells and type 2 diabetes is caused by diet and obesity, type 4 diabetes is associated with older age, rather than weight gain.

Type 3 diabetes is a title that has been proposed for Alzheimer's disease which results from resistance to insulin in the brain.

Type 2 diabetes used to be known as adult-onset diabetes as it was primarily seen in middle-aged adults over the age of 40. However, in recent years, cases of type 2 diabetes have become more common in young adults, teens and children. This increase has been connected to climbing levels of obesity.

Type 1 diabetes (T1D) usually begins before 40 years of age, although occasionally people have been people diagnosed at an older age. In the United States, the peak age at diagnosis is most often around 14 years old. Type 1 diabetes is associated with a deficiency or lack of insulin

There are two main types of diabetes: type 1 and type 2. Both types of diabetes are chronic diseases that affect the way your body regulates blood sugar, or glucose. Glucose is the fuel that feeds your body's cells, but to enter your cells it needs a key. ... People with type 1 diabetes don't produce insulin

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Sometimes, type 1 is diagnosed closer to even younger than 14 years old. I know someone who has been diabetic since she was 3 years old.

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India has between 65-70 million diabetics. This figure is a Govt of India figure, so take it with a pinch of salt. Approx, 60% of India's population is below 30. Again a Govt of India statistic. Therefore, approx 35-45 million Indians are diabetics below 30 years, assuming an even distribution of diabetics across all age groups (not a good assumption, I know).

This is a very rough calculation, but it sure beats the ridiculous lectures you were subjected to :-)

Cheers, Indian 1990.

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One mistake, I've made.

My calculations (based on Govt statistics) are for ALL diabetics, not for type 2 only, please note. Approx 90-95% of all diabetics are type 2.

If one generalizes, then 30-42 million Indians are type 2 diabetics who are under 30 years of age. This IS but a generalization, because there is no data that I know of, that gives accurate up to date figures.

As to their profession and how they are maintaining their BS, you will have to wait for a few to reply. That doesn't seem likely, so don't get your hopes up :-)

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I did not want to comment on your remark "This is a very rough calculation, but it sure beats the ridiculous lectures you were subjected to :-) "

I read WHO report on my course, read Indian news paper report, asked questions and educators gave answers!!

I am always learning, thank you.

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If you didn't want to comment, you should not have brought up my comment. By bringing it up, you have spoken.

Btw, my remark about the lectures were directed at gangadharan_nair.

Over and out.

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sandybrown,

Good morning.😀

Everyone is learning everything on how to take care of the blood sugars and health issues in general.

How’s it going today for you?

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Bright and sunny out side but cold to do gardening!, this is UK.

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It’s sunny here today, too . Not too cold.

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If you are a diabetic, better to avoid high fat diet as you will unnecessarily take a cardiovascular risk

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Please read LCHF diet.. thanks

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Without the slightest shadow of doubt, the LCHF diet is the BEST for fighting diabetes.

These guys who talk about "fat" being bad are probably referring to trans-fats, not saturated fats. And, if they do mean saturated fats, then they are sadly outdated :-(

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LCHF is an unnatural,unrealistic potentially dangerous prescription

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rnpa,

I have sent you the message now.

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rnpa,

I will be sending you a message soon. When I sent it, I will let you know to check out for it.

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School is controlling take away food. It should be parents who should be taking the action on children's food and health.

Fast food is the main problem with increase in blood glucose issues.

Primary school BANS parents from buying and delivering their children McDonald's and KFC fast food for lunch

•Canley Vale Public School has told parents to stop bringing fast food to students

•Principal Ben Matthews told parents to stop bringing McDonald's and KFC

•A parent at the school said the kids 'love' fast food despite it being 'junk'

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actually, I also feel like down when I skip a meal, I feel like my sugar level is down but when I check blood sugar, in that case, it is always higher(250 or more ) than expected. I don't know why and its always a confusion 50% people say to eat only for 2 times a day so that there will be some time to utilize deposited sugar and fat, while 50% people say to eat 4 to 5 times with a time interval. some say walking is best exercise some says never do a high sweating exercise like aerobics and Zumba in diabetic condition.

nowadays I am really tired with all the experiments to be done on the body regarding exercise and eating habits.that's why I stopped reading about sugar related topics, even after a long time I have logged in on health unlocked. being a Ph.D. student in life science I understand the science behind every bite of food but because of a hectic schedule nothing is in my control please help me I really need good advice and moral support to live a healthy life.

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Message me if you want to get out of this

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i want to get out of this plz help me

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deepali_mali,

Has your doctor suggested that you go on a low carb high protein diet? Please consult your doctor before you change your diet and/or exercise routine to be on the safe side of things. No one wants anyone getting sick or worse.

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he only suggested not to eat sweets and maida and rice and all prepared with rice nothing else

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hi i am type 2 since 2016 profession mainly sitting age 28. sugar is undercontrol. a1c in range 6 to 7.

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There may potentially be five distinct subtypes of type two diabetes based individual genetics.

Three of the subtypes involve insulin resistance where insulin is not used effectively and for the right purpose. The other two subtypes involve a deficiency of insulin where insulin is not being produced in adequate amounts by the beta cells.

According to this new classification, diabetes can be classified as;

Cluster 1: Severe autoimmune diabetes (SAID)

Cluster 2: Severe insulin-deficient diabetes (SIDD)

Cluster 3: Severe insulin-resistant diabetes (SIRD)

Cluster 4: Mild obesity-related diabetes (MOD)

Cluster 5: Mild age-related diabetes (MARD)

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Diabetes: Study proposes five types, not two

PublishedFriday 2 March 2018 By Honor WhitemanFact checked by Jasmin Collier

The five 'clusters' of diabetes

The researchers came to their proposal by analyzing the data of four study cohorts. These included a total of 14,775 adults from Sweden and Finland, all of whom had been newly diagnosed with diabetes.

As part of the analysis, the scientists looked at six measures in each subject that each represent different features of diabetes.

The food these people is very different to the food people in Asia eat! There is Nordic diet, Meditation diet and Japanese diet. USA and Europe have their own diet, fast food!!!

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