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Anxiety can take many forms but it is always anxiety.

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People who encounter anxiety disorder for the first time don't know what's hit them. One day they're O.K., the next they have panic attacks, chest pains, visual disturbances, dizziness, stomach pain, diahrea (never could spell that) and muscle pains to name just a few of the symptoms. They soon become convinced that they are about to have a heart attack or stroke, or they have some form of cancer or a wasting disease. Many become convinced that death is imminent. So they seek medical advice and undergo all sorts of scans and blood tests - only to be told there is nothing physically or organically wrong. But they still have the bad feelings, the racing heart, the hot flushes, the strange thoughts. So they are bewildered and start to believe the doctors have overlooked something.

If any of this strikes a chord with you here's what you need to know. Yes, it's important to see your doctor to rule out physical causes but when all the tests come back fine you must accept them and accept that it's all anxiety driven. What happens is that after a period of stress and worry or working too hard our nervous system that extends throughout our body becomes over sensitised and in this state everything becomes magnified ten fold. Small worries normally resolved with ease are seen as enormous problems, our normal antipathy to dying can become a major obsession - and our sensitised nerves start to mimic and mirror all kinds of genuine organic illness. You've no idea how good frazzled nerves are at simulating real illness, just look at the list above and that's just for starters.

Once you understand how jangled nerves start playing tricks on your tired mind it should bring some reassurance and end your bewilderment - you're not going to die or have a stroke or a heart attack or lose your mind. That feeling of unreality, that you're not really 'there', and all the other symptoms are fakes, they are frauds, confidence tricksters and are caused by blips, glitches and short circuits in your over sensitised nerves. Anxiety can take many forms but it is always anxiety. It's a real shape shifter.

The problem is, everytime some symptom strikes you react to it with fear and fear is what fuels sensitive nerves. We enter a viscious circle of anxiety causing symptoms which cause more anxiety which causes more symptoms ans so on. Thus we become our own worse enemies and perpetuate by our reactions the bad feelings we hate.

There is only one way out and everybody can do it. Everybody can recover and over the years hundreds of thousands have. You have to Accept the bad feelings for the moment knowing them to be paper tigers, they are fake and fraudulent and are not life threatening, neither can they damage your body. You have to frame your mind to utterly Accept the bad feelings without fear. A tall order I know, and to begin with you may only be able to Accept the bad feelings for a few seconds or a few minutes, this us called 'glimpsing', but with practice and persistance will learn to Accept without fear. Nobody said this was going to be a quick fix.

The thing is, because you are willing to temporarily put upvwith the symptoms and not add fresh fear every time, your sensitised nervous system begins to recover as you're no longer thrashing it with fear and tension every five minutes. And eventually your nerves return to their normal state and guess what, you already have I'm sure, all those bad feelings and strange feelings and obsessions and aches and dizziness fadescto nothing and you can reclaim your life again.

So stay off that bed in the daytime, continue with your work in the normal way, even though you feel like s**t you can do it, don't let the toothless tiger win. When the bad feelings come they are like waves that break against a rock and flow past it but despite the crashing of the wave against the rock, the rock endures. YOU are that rock.

Perhaps all this is enough to get your tired head round at the moment so I will leave the rest for another day. But make no mistake EVERYBODY can recover with practice and persistance and you too can join that happy band on the Yellow Brick Road to recovery.

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Jeff I agree 100% with u I've gone through all those symptoms and had tests come back clear and still think the worst. I've read Claire weekes she's amazing and has helped me through rough days. It's so hard but ur right with all u said u gotta keep doing what ur doing even if u feel so bad while doing it. And eventually it passes. Sometimes u just need to hear it from someone else I was having a bad day but reading this has made me remember it's only anxiety and we can beat it. Thank you for posting uve helped me feel better immediately I appreciate it.

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bonnie1959โ€ข in reply toBlondiful

Hi jeff

100% agree. Couldnt of neen put better. All that and more i suffered. Cld not even put one foot infrint of the other at the start. Totaly agree with all can recover. I had every stmptom you can think of. Was awful. 2 yrs.but i kept stressing and being angry with all tbe symptoms. Only by doing that my neeves wernt getting a rest. So it went on. I replaced worrying with a list of two goals for the next day. If never did . They got carried over. Do something little indoors. Yoy dont have to go out to recover in the start. Just make a start of less worry . Give nerves a chance to heal . Stop adding to more stress to them . I did tey meds. But never wanted to. So i stopped after few weeks. I recovered without. Jeff is so right. I was a member of this site 3 years ago.

Bonnie

I shall copy what you've said onto my memo board because l hv a memory like a sieve. I need to keep reflecting on yr words as l know yr right.

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I agree 100% with everything you have written Jeff and want to add something to all that sage advice. One more step. We need to identify and work on reducing the stress that got us sensitised in the first place. This can be done with walking in nature to recharge, feeding your body with nutritious fresh food, sleeping well at night, meditation or relaxed breathing for 10-20 minutes, engaging with others to take the focus off self and stop googling!!!! In addition to Claire Weekes and Barry McDonagh and Paul David (who all espouse a form of acceptance and floating and letting time pass) i have got great help from a couple of british psychologists on their site Uncommon Knowledge. The basic premise is that we spend much of our day "ruminating" over our ills (percieved or otherwise) and when we go to sleep, instead of luxuriating in deep restorative sleep, out brains need to shake off all the worries and ruminations of the day so it engages in dreaming to excess. Whilst dreaming (in a REM state) our bodies are continuing to pump out cortisol and adrenaline and we wake up tired and anxious just in time to repeat the cycle. We need to sleep deeper and dream less. That's my "2 bits worth" !!! V

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Great post ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ™๐Ÿป

Hi Jeff, after all the effort of coming off Venlafaxine l had to go back to the doctors because the depression is making me ill. Loads of symptoms but the worse was fatigue and weekness. I am finding it difficult with coping with work. So she put me on Sertraline and a lecture, which l deserved. All in all l hope they work because lm living in a haze at the moment.

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Sorry to hear that, Timeless. We've all done it and come of medications before we are ready. I do hope the Sertraline is effective, don't be disappointed that you've had to go back onto meds, be glad we live at a time when such little helpers are available.

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Jeff, lve bn taking Sertraline for 5days and for the last 2 lve had very bad suicidal thoughts from abt 4am for hrs after. It was very distressing so l rang pharmacy and he told me to stop taking them. The Propanalol doc gave me for anxiety works really well. Bk to docs on tues.

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Timeless, how are you doing today? Did you get my message of yesterday left on this thread but I may have replied in the wrong place and you mightn't have known about it. I do hope you manage to get an appointment to see your gp tomorrow. I note what you say about propanalol, I hope these continue to give you help.

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Hi Jeff, l didnt get yr reply yesterday but lm pleased to here from u today. This morning a went to A and E because l felt so ill and having suicidal thoughts all the time. I hv Crisis team coming to my home tomorrow morning, l hope for some advice on eleviating the morning illness. They told me to carry on with Sertraline and that it wasnt the problem, but lm not sure. Will hv a word with doc tues. Ive got to somehow stop this anxiety depression in its tracks because l dont want to live the rest of my life like this. Gaffers wont be pleased with me. Thanks for replying Jeff.

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Your health and wellbeing are more important than the gaffers, they come second, if need be you'll get by without them. I think you should talk to your doc before making any decisions, pity you can't see them until tuesday. Don't worry about the problems of other family members, be ruthless, they must look after themselves while you are like this. And don't give up completely on the green tea, maybe two cups in the morning rather than oneโ˜บ. You are going to come through this, believe me, all troubles do pass and you will enjoy life again. Just give it time, lots of time, switch off all those chaotic thoughts and bad feelings going round and round in your tired brain, switch them off and let your brain rest. I'll have another word with Him upstairs.

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Thx so much Jeff, for yr support!โ˜บ

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DylanDโ€ข in reply toJeff1943

Jeff1943 ....I've seen you mention the green tea in another post. But my one reservation would be that tea contains caffeine - though far less than coffee. If I'm starting the day shaky, I don't know if i'd want to put any caffeine in my system. Just wondering.....

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Agora1โ€ข in reply toDylanD

DylanD they do make Decaf Green Tea and you would be getting the same beneficial properties.

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Just found yr first reply Jeff. Thx

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Hi Hidden ....How is the Sertraline working for you? I just started it. .25mg / day for the first week.....it's making me nauseous.

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Jeff1943โ€ข in reply toDylanD

Dylan, I think the small amount of caffein in green tea wouldn't be a problem but as Agora1 says you can get it decaff. Also for nausea a tea made from thin slices of fresh ginger root proved more effective in counteracting nause among people having chemotherapy than pharmaceutical meds.

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Hi Dylan, l started on 50 mg and l was not well at all for a week then l was told by doc to up it to 100 mg and its picked me up after a few weeks to enable me to go back to work. I felt sick in the first few weeks, tired and low. But now lve evened out into just 'flatness'. Im still not my normal self. Im tired and memory still isnt good but l can work, so thats a bonus. I hv to see specialist doc on friday so l'll see what he says. Im still under a lot of pressure at home with family but lve take myself away from it and chill in my bedroom.

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Timeless, you've had a really tough time recently what with your loss and I know there have been family changes that have put more pressure on you when you least need it. Most other people would be feeling like you do if the same had happened to them. It's clearly essential to get the right medication to combat this and give you a long 'holiday' from the depression and anxiety. Can't you see your doctor on Monday rather than waiting until Tuesday even if it means seeing some other doc in the practice? I'm sure that a mention of suicidal thoughts will get you an immediate appointment.

I'm not very knowledgeable about all the different types of anti-depressants, the only one I am familiar with which worked like a magic bullet for me years ago is Amitriptyline (I took it for so long that I learnt to spell itโ˜บ), it has been around since the 1960s so is a known quantity, it went out of fashion when prozac and others came along but has now come back into favour because of its safety and effectiveness. Maybe mention Amitriptyline to your doctor as a replacement and see what they think, you can even take diazepam with it on an occasional basis. Yes, I think it's imperitive you see a doctor on Monday to sort the medication issue out, and no misgivings or disappointments about going back onto meds for quite a while, Timeless, they are absolutely justified in your present circumstances.

Do keep ckearlyvin mind that this is not the way you are going to always feel, the time WILL come when you feel good and life is good again and you must live for that day. And whatever you do you must put yourself first for the duration and everybody else including your employer comes second. I don't know whether having time off from work is helpful or not, two schools of thought aren't there, occupation can be beneficial, decide this with your doctor.

So sorry you're feeling so low but as I say anybody else would be feeling the same after what you have experienced. I will be having a word with the boss man upstairs on your behalf and please do message me any time, though I don'tvkeep my tablet on all the time but will always get back to you SAP, do keep me up to date please and I will be thinking of you.

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