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I’m sorry if this post upset anyone. That definitely was not my intent. I thought that this was a place I could air my feelings and thoughts and get advice and help from others but I guess I went too far. I guess I will leave this forum and fight my own thoughts and feelings as I’ve done all my life. Thank you to everyone for your support and advice.

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Sunrisetabby

Good morning. Kindly note that based on my understanding the "MESSAGE FROM HU SUPPORT" added to your previous message was not a warning that you had gone too far, and certainly not an admonishment that you need to leave the forum. All that the message indicates is that for forum members that are in a vulnerable place that it may not be helpful for them at that vulnerable time to read. There is no need to fight your feeling and thoughts on your own - that is why this community exists. Sending best wishes and positive thoughts to you.

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hypercat54

Hi I agree with Sunrisetabby. HU will put a trigger warning on sometimes and this is purely in case it can upset someone so they know to avoid it.

If the post broke forum rules it would be removed. Nothing to worry about. Stay with us.

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hypercat54 in reply tohypercat54

Just checked back on your post and I reckon its because you mentioned you want to die. Nothing wrong about posting that but the warning is in case someone else is in the same place and to maybe avoid it.

Like we said nothing to worry about. You carry on posting and getting support on the site.

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I’m curious. People talk about it all the time here Un fortunately it can be very much a part of our extreme challenges.

How else are we all suppose to survive

The struggle is very real.

2 attempts here

I’m so sorry if that affects anyone but it’s my truth.

No one else’s

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hypercat54 in reply to

What members think is irrelevant actually. We have no say in the rules here as only the site owners and HU can do that.

If you think this isn't right then I suggest you take it up with them.

in reply tohypercat54

Yes but it does matter what we think between us to know if our perception is correct or not, before contacting them

Appreciate your feedback very much

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hypercat54 in reply to

You are welcome. Its also a good idea to read the terms and conditions of posting too.

in reply tohypercat54

TY. I have 3 times in the past

Can’t ignore so many crying out here tho.

So many

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hypercat54 in reply to

I think its because they can trigger others too much. As far as I'm aware the site is run with the maximum amount of support for the maximum number of members. One person no matter how bad their situation cannot be allowed to cause chaos on the site.

This is only a peer support group and is limited in its support potential. None of us are trained counsellors and can sometimes offer advice which is contrary to helping strictly unintentionally. You can't expect members here to be able to take that sort of responsibility as its not fair on all of us.

In the past we have had the odd member we know has gone the whole way and it upsets a lot of people.

This is only my take on it so like I said maybe contact HU and ask for their reasons. I say contact them because the mods/admins here generally don't respond.

I would be interested to hear HU's views on this too.

in reply tohypercat54

I thank you once again hypercat for your response. I very much understand what you’re explaining I believe and the rules, the bigger picture of everybody and everyone staying out of triggering and chaos etc. etc. etc.

This is one reporter’s opinion but I believe without having an official count, that in the last couple weeks I’ve seen 10 to 20 people who have shown pretty serious Indicators. Definitely more than occasional here or there and in this case these people are already triggered and in desperate wants.

I don’t know if you’ve ever been in the type of situation that clinical depression and anxiety can bring on, I know I have an I liken it too to say your skiing downhill, you fall awkwardly and shatter your leg in multiple places and there’s no morphine. Absolutely no pain relievers on this planet . They have not been invented. For 5 year period. No matter what I tried holistic wise , medicine wise., I felt like that every waking second.

I was so lost and clueless I didn’t know who or where to go. Providers weren’t finding any answers unfortunately.

More than a couple three or four times I’ve read, and even just recently with a very triggered person,that they waited on a crisis hotline quite some time ,sometimes all over an hour. They couldn’t trust a hospital. Now I don’t know if this is absolutely accurate or not but I’ve heard more than a few say that, so I have to take into account that there’s some possible validity to it but really I have no proof.

What am I trying to say?

If a person doesn’t think they can call a crisis hotline for whatever reason or their providers or go to a hospital and they don’t think they can talk on here or it’s not allowed where do they go?

Is it possible that a support group like this could have a Hotline of its own with some peers that are trained to help these people. Do you know if one exists already?

They aren’t necessarily professional counselors, but in many cases maybe better to advise somebody than others because have been in their same exact shoes.

Now, obviously you would need to have official and excellent training and qualified to be that crisis operator, in order to give that kind of advice .

I would personally write a check to help fundraise yo support a possible idea like that if any idea that doesn’t turn desperate people away .

Obviously, somehow the site would have to funnel as best as could to this particular hotline , so that this would be a possible viable solution

I do t know what’s possible yet but I do know that possible change for good can be created by anyone or much better yet, “ anyones “, if the solutions fits best for all.

Look forward to your valued insight and thoughts

Much love

Craig

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hypercat54 in reply to

There isn't the facility on this site to do this nor are there experienced counsellors here. It is just an online peer site which is as it is. There must be sites which are more set up to do this and I believe the mods do give them links.

Other than that I have no further thoughts. Thank you for the compliment though.

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hypercat54 in reply tohypercat54

Why not contact the mods and ask them if they would consider this?

in reply tohypercat54

I definitely will.

Thank you very much for listening as I know you are well experienced in this peer support world.

I’m 7 months in on my first group.

Wish me luck I’m going today to my local NAMI to hopefully start a path towards towards speaking to large and helping others

Their idea .

I still have much to learn so I’m like a sponge and information that I can exchange with others like you, I find in valuable to my future goals.

Thanks again, and take care

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Oops— suppose to say Large groups. I’m a talker not a typer lol

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I agree. So many are crying out in pain and they need to say it and have someone understand. I am very careful how I word my feelings on the subject because I don't want someone to call 911 on me and be taken away and locked up but I feel on most days I'd rather not be here. I've been in a deep depression since a bunch of trauma happened from April 2022 to Nov 2022 and then we sold our house and moved away which caused another whole set of new problems, loss of friends and neighbors and church. Having to start a new life while in a depression. But I haven't given up. I have a new psychiatrist, a therapist, this group. I started going to the local senior center and meeting people. I'm like a walking zombie just going through the motions without any joy but I'm still here. I guess that's progress. I'm sorry this member felt like he had to leave for having real feelings. So sad.

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Turnipgirl in reply to

It infuriates me greatly when those who are paid to help and support us don't and make things worse than they needed to be!

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hypercat54 in reply to

Everyone has real feelings but its a case of not triggering everyone else as we are all vulnerable. The very small minority can't be catered to on a site like this which is for the majority. There are other sites with trained counsellors on I believe and they are directed there by the mods.

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You know, I feel I’m fairly educated and successful man, but when it comes to this world of mental health, I can very much stumble around like a person in a pitch black room full of furniture

I’ve looked for other sites that have these type of things you mentioned and I haven’t been able to find them. Are you any help with where those would be?

Not necessarily for myself, but to help others.

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Ditto. I'm fairly educated and living a blessed life but when it comes to this mental health stuff, it's hard to find help or the right help. Someone should make a list.

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List?

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A list of websites and online places to get help besides here since the person above was sort of reprimanded for their comment. Maybe there's a different place to go to talk about whatever that was. I didn't see the original message.

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i sent a message to the moderators with no response. i'm now searching and further educating myself

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Oh my goodness Barb.

My heart absolutely pours out to you. If there’s anything I can do it all please direct message me. I’m here for you.

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Thank you. I wish there was something you or someone could do but I'm learning that no one can fix me except me. I just have to want to fix myself and I'm so tired. I just want to give up. It's hard to fake being happy. Have you seen the tv ad for Rexulti? The lady carries a cardboard smile face in front of her real face. That's how I feel.

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Feel free to contact me anytime if nothing other but to commiserate

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You mean sort of like "misery loves company?"

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Exactly

I’ll work on that list idea. I ll be contacting some people

Stay tuned

Dont change that radio dial

Remember that or you too young?

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I'm 61. Too old.

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lol me 2

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hey Barb

I just sent a a chat to the MOD team about the things we were discussing on this thread, both referrals to other sites that might be better equipped to handle those really hurting and the possibility of something maybe being done down the road on this site.

I just thought I’d let you know.

We shall see

Craig

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Haven’t heard back yet. Will try HU

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Agora1

My friend, you are in the right place to express your feelings. As hypercat54 and

Sunrisetabby stated this is just a protection for others reading something that may

trigger them.

You are welcome to express your feelings so that we may support you.

I hope you give us another chance. We Care :) xx

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Xene

Awww mate, don’t overthink the attached possible trigger warning to your previous post, it happens often, so much so some members put up their own trigger warning to their post if they feel that the content may be too negative for those with a possibly higher sensitivity.🤷‍♀️

in reply toXene

I I just learned something here too. With your post that you can put up your own warning. Very informative. Thank you very much.

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Xene in reply to

No probs, the longer you’re on the forum the more you get to learn about it and the lovely members.👍

in reply toXene

Most definitely .

It’s amazing. Sure wish I would’ve found this type of form along time ago.

All in his time I guess

Have a great and blessed day

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