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Anyone tried St John Worts?

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What’s everyone’s experience of St John Worts fo anxiety?

Also I have trouble swallowing big tablets, so can I crush these?

Having a bad case of anxiety feeling sick and gagging throughout the day!!!

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I have StJohns wort in my cupboard and have been planning to take them for around a year----but Gp says they can affect your liver-so be careful if you do..are you on ant other meds?

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tnulbc115 in reply tolorianxiety

I just bought some from Holland and Barret but questioning if I should have god cbd oil instead?

I’m in no meds at the moment, so that’s a plus. My therapist told me that she’s had experience with St. John Worts as its been effective but I’m still unsure myself. My boyfriend took one out of the packet today to prove their fine (he has no anxiety or anything) but I’m still hesitant

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lorianxiety in reply totnulbc115

Hi ,its something that it could work for you and your boyfriend taken one isn't proof that its helpfulif you have difficulty in swallowing,its wise to have plenty water handy-Cbt,I think help pain and its best taken for that and not for depression/anxiety,im taking Kalms over the past few months ,its alright and helps a bit ,considering Ive been on diazepam for many years,!

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tnulbc115 in reply tolorianxiety

I agree! But I also think he did it to show me that taking a tablet is nothing to worry about, because I worry way to much about it. Do you think it’s wise to cut in half or crush?

How do you find karms? I always associated it with not being able to sleep? Do you take them daily?

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lorianxiety in reply totnulbc115

Whatever way ,that's easier for you.are they-capsules haven't touched them yet.With Kalms ,you can get the daytime ones as well as night im taken both-they are sugar coated pill and not large-for stress and mild anxiety---they aren't meant to be longterm ,however I take whats best for me!!

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tnulbc115 in reply tolorianxiety

They are rounded tablets, so I’m considering either spilling or crushing in half - if I can! I shall read up on Kalms. Have you ever tried 5HTP tablets? Apparently they are good to also lift your seritionin levels

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lorianxiety in reply totnulbc115

No,havent heard of them until now where can I get those Holland and Barrat?

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tnulbc115 in reply tolorianxiety

Yes! I’m not 100% how effective they are, I haven’t tried them myself but considered them instead of the St. John Worts.

Here’s a link if you need to read up first: webmd.com/vitamins/ai/ingre...

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lorianxiety in reply totnulbc115

Thanks.I already have them,but reluctant to try because of liver as they can affect it -mine is needing protection,lol though may try nearer winter.

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tnulbc115 in reply tolorianxiety

That it very understandable. I just reluctant to take them because they’re so big - I’m such a baby with tablets!! I’m not sure on the side effects of 5HTP so I’d read through first. I’ll let you know what i decide to do.

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lorianxiety in reply totnulbc115

That's fine please do,i wouldn't fancy opening a capsule contents may taste horrible-have you decided to take the J.Wort.wish you all the best .!

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tnulbc115 in reply tolorianxiety

The 5HTP are also big capsules, that’s why I haven’t taken them. Thankfully the SJW are tablets so I’m hoping to split, thank you!

Don't mix it with SSRI antidepressants or any other serotonin products

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tnulbc115 in reply tolillyofthevalley37

Thank you! I’m currently on no antidepressants so I think it should be fine - only probiotics in the morning from Holland and Barrett? Have you tried St John Worrs before?

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lillyofthevalley37 in reply totnulbc115

I am currently avoiding seretongenic products because I got mild serotonin syndrome from having too much GABA and then CBD oil (from Holland and Barrett) I want the opposite of serotonin which is dopermine

What symptoms are you trying to treat ?

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tnulbc115 in reply tolillyofthevalley37

How did you find taking the CBD oil? Before you realised you needed the opposite?

I have had anxiety since I was 12 and always managed to treat it (now 22) . But since March this year I had bad food poisoning which left me with post IBS so I now have a fear of being sick, so I instantly feel nauseated or like I need to heave. Therefore this symptom is harder to ignore than the usual panic attack tight chest symptoms.

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lillyofthevalley37 in reply totnulbc115

Holland and Barret sell feverfew which is brilliant for IBS I really recommend it I take it bc it is a serotonin receptor antagonist but I was getting IBS and the feverfew just stops it apparently 90% of serotonin is in our gut

On.13th April this year I took.CBD oil I lost my appetite for a week and it made me very depressed like I have never experienced in my life I felt like throwing myself off a cliff I must add it seems I am super sensitive but start with a very small amount

Evening primrose oil is good for anxiety I take 2× 1000mg capsules every morning

As for your boyfriend suggesting natural stuff is no problem I have to say that after my recent experiences I think.natural compounds can be worse than big Pharma

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tnulbc115 in reply tolillyofthevalley37

Oh no - that’s terrible to hear that, I hope you’re in a much better place now and feeling yourself again. Do you think the St John Wort will make my IBS worse? Can you take feverfew with SJW do you know?

I have only taken the SJW today so I’m seeing no difference as of yet. How did you know you have too much serotonin in the body may I ask?

I have never been one of medication myself, however I heard that natural remedies usually have less side effects than medication. My therapist also didn’t recommend CBD oil to me as she said it doesn’t have enough research? Therefore I will give SJW ago along sode therapy

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lillyofthevalley37 in reply totnulbc115

Sorry what is SJW?

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tnulbc115 in reply tolillyofthevalley37

Sorry - St John Worts

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lillyofthevalley37 in reply tolillyofthevalley37

Ok St John's Wort

It is serotogenic start with a low dose

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lillyofthevalley37 in reply tolillyofthevalley37

I really recommend the feverfew capsules for IBS

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Thank you. I hope you find something that works for you too

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lillyofthevalley37 in reply totnulbc115

To answer your question about how did I know I had had too much serotonin I started having tremours , sweating and insomnia also very tearful and depressed

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