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My uncle, a very fit 88-year old, was diagnosed with prostate cancer 3 1/2 years ago and while the hormonal treatment kept it in check for a couple of years, his PSA has now risen to 1600 and the scans show has spread to his bones. He has been tinkering with different hormonal regimes, abiraterone and enzalutamide, without benefit, and has just progressed to start taking dexamethasone and is considering trying fenbendazole. I would be interested to hear of other peoples experience of fenbendazole ?

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GP24 profile image
GP24

Pluvicto will be more effective

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Granolaloaf in reply toGP24

it looks like Pluvicto is not Available in the UK prostate-cancer-research.or...

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GP24 in reply toGranolaloaf

You could get it here: patientinfolibrary.royalmar...

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cigafred

I believe Joe Tippens and his Fenbendazole work. However, as I have posted on this web site, (1) it did not work for me and (2) when I asked him about the audits that Stanford and Oklahoma Medical Research Organization had performed with respect to fenbendazole and prostate cancer his response was, at best, vague and evasive.

Granolaloaf profile image
Granolaloaf in reply tocigafred

Thanks cigafred. I wonder whether menbendazole is as good?

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Purple-Bike in reply tocigafred

Do you have the interchange with Tippens about the audits and if so would you mind messaging that to me?Stanford researchers did three well documented case control studies on the Tippens protocol which came out favorably. It would be most interesting to see something about a follow-up audit.

cigafred profile image
cigafred in reply toPurple-Bike

It was VERY roughly four months ago that Joe had a QandA on his website. facebook.com/groups/mycance...

I do not know how to access that video. Any links to the Stanford results?

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dhccpa in reply tocigafred

Yes, I was skeptical that Stanford or Emory were hitting a lick on fenben. Joe must have been puffing. Even if they examined three cases, it wouldn't mean much.

Still, I plug ahead. Are you sure you gave it long enough? It doesn't work like ADT does. If it does its thing, it does it over time, particularly with PCa.

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dhccpa in reply tocigafred

Joe just did another video call in in January.

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Mrtewills

I have been on the FB and Ivermectin path for 4 months. I'm waiting to discuss my recent CT results with MO shortly. PC with Mets to lymphs here. Medically I'm on Eligard and Erleda. My PSA has stayed at. .02 for 3 months now. Taking FB/Ivermectin requires a lot more, such as Tudca and melatonin. The group here is a huge brain trust on traditional meds and options. As such, I've been silent as not to bog the group down with alternative/natural paths.

Lastly, FB, etc is very costly, at least in California.

TC007 profile image
TC007 in reply toMrtewills

you seen any PSA drop since you started FB and Ivermectin?

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Mrtewills in reply toTC007

It's difficult to know while on ADT meds. However, fb/iver isn't for the reduction of PSA. The fb/iver protocol assumed cancer is a parasite, and the dewormers remove them.

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dhccpa in reply toMrtewills

I've never heard Joe recommend iver. Regarding fenben, he has said that the mechanism by which it fights cancer is totally separate from its deworming abilities. I'm not saying that's true or not, but I've heard him say that several times.

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cigafred in reply toMrtewills

I do not understand FB (I assume fenbendazole) being expensive. I see Amazon now has some fancy formulations at high prices, but the basic product was cheaper than most of my supplements.

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Mrtewills in reply tocigafred

Fenben is expensive to me. There are only s handful of guaranteed FB products. There are companies that create their own pills/powders but not independently tested. At last pricing. It costs me $340 + TX per month using safe-guard. Then there is the Pectasol $110 per bottle (15g/day), add Tudca at $30 x 7-8/mo. And this is just the basic protocol of protocol.

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Niso in reply toMrtewills

Hi in order to cut costs you can buy fenben from the happy healing store ,recommended by many patients in fenben groups. I started to use fenben pure powder 50 grams 85$ and it's very cost effective.

I dissolve it with oil and have oily meal,you can go up to 2000 mg a day so even on this high dose is a very responsible price comparing to safe guard or panacure c.

Some patients dissolves it with dmso for better absorption.

There are few different fenben in the store including fenben bio that has better bioavailability and you can take it without oil or meal.

Melatonin powder i buy from pure bulk and make my own capsules .

I used to take mebendazol before fenben now I started to take them both and ivermectin will be next every other day.

I was quite stable last few years with orgovyx and abiraterone plus mebendazole and other off label drugs and supplements, now things have changed and psa slowly rising with 2 new mets to lungs probably became mcrpc.

Waiting for a biopsy, meanwhile I got back strongly to my alternative protocol and added penben probably will combine that with chemo soon.

Be well.

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Mrtewills in reply toNiso

I belong to a couple FB groups, I won't bash HH, but I know Merck's Safe-Guard has been tested and is what it purports itself to be.

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Worked_the_World in reply toNiso

Dimethyl sulfoxide, DMSO, is amazing. I knew a fellow who drank the stuff every day for his prostate cancer and he claimed at that time that it had given him two additional years of life. He sure worked hard at Brown and Root. However, you could smell his breath ten feet away. I do n ot know about any other treatment he might have been taking. This was twenty-five years ago.

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TC007 in reply toMrtewills

On top of it i was buying Liquid Fucoidan from Japan for my father that costs $1k for 3 months supply. Also, AlgaeCal Plus is another $200 a month. I may have to stop Fucoidan now because of budget constraints and will redirect funds to other supplements. Even though i think Fucoidan helped him to maintain good QOL.

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garyjp9 in reply toMrtewills

Where can someone get Ivermectin and what is an appropriate dose for that?

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Mrtewills in reply togaryjp9

I get it at Tractor Supply. And about a pencil eraser size.

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Mlsliver78 in reply togaryjp9

Village Pharmacy knoxville TN OTC.

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garyjp9 in reply toMlsliver78

Thanks

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tayninhtom in reply tocigafred

Just buy dog dewormer. Same same

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dhccpa in reply toMrtewills

I've never taken TUDCA. For liver? Haven't seen the need over four years. Everybody's different.

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Mrtewills in reply todhccpa

It may be an overkill, but it hasn't hurt

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Rfs1975 in reply toMrtewills

What is your daily Ivermectin and FB dose? Thanks

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Mrtewills in reply toRfs1975

4g FB and 2 clicks of Iver. I like to jumble it. 1 day, Iver morn/nite, no FB. Then switch 2g FB morn/nite, or one each. I won't let my body get used to set amounts.

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garyjp9 in reply toMrtewills

Sorry, what is a "click"?

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tink88 in reply toMrtewills

Both fenben & ivermectin can be found both on Amazon & chewy and quite affordable. Also at feed stores.

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Mrtewills in reply totink88

I buy from Tractor supply now.

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Maybabybaby in reply toMrtewills

Hello there! My bf has stage 4 prostate cancer that has metastasized to his hips. He recently saw a homeopathic doctor that prescribed fenben. It’s confusing on the dosage. Do you take it everyday? If so, how many capsules. I ordered the 222mg. Thank you

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Mrtewills in reply toMaybabybaby

Work up to 2 grams daily..

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GobeatPSA in reply toMrtewills

Can you please share a link or where I can purchase FB and ivermectin? Thank you

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Mrtewills in reply toGobeatPSA

I go to Tractor Supply for what I use, see picture. Or any place that carries it.

Some folk suggest getting from

thehappyhealingstore.com/ha...

I have not tried. or do I promote their website or product. The fenben I use, I know it's certified. (Safeguard).

Good luck

Safeguard
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GobeatPSA in reply toMrtewills

Thank you so much sir!🙏

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Mike2023 in reply toMrtewills

Re pricing : Check-out India. Recently, IVM, MBZ, FMZ, each less than about 30 cents per tablet:

Ivermectin tablet (12mg) = 2.8 USD for 10 tablets.

Fabkure , Fenbendazole 150 mg Tablet= 2.8 USD for 10 tablets.

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MrG68

I think it's low risk and cheap. You should discuss it with your med team before taking it, but I can't see any reason not to consider it.

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beaverstate

use Merck fenbendazole products (liquid liter size is most cost effective) 1ml has 100mg of fenbendazole so 4 ml a day. prior study on humans and fenbendazole showed that absorption into bloodstream is very poor but did increase when it is taken after large meals (so take it after a large meal)...absorption is not consistent from person to person which is not well understood. I have tried to encourage Joe Tippens to have his blood concentration tested to find out what level of absorption he personally acheives (him being a person whose cancer died taking it) It would be critical to know if he is a person that for whatever reason is able to absorb more into his blood. That really should be the basis of dosing (to actually know what blood concentration is being achieved when prior research on humans demonstrated that some people absorbed nearly nothing at all (and if that is the case then they would not achieve the benefit of fenbendazole to kill the cancer cells). To know the blood concentration one would need a pure reference sample and then analysis of blood at different intervals of time after taking a dose with HPLC (High performance Liquid Chromatography) of the samples to know what type of absorbtion (if any) is being achieved. I would highly recommend trying fenbendazole consistently for at least a couple of months to find out if it works for you since it is very inexpensive and has little to no side effects and there are numerous numbers of people with varying types of cancer that have had positive results such as Joe Tippens and the Merck lab worke who used it on her brain cancer (how joe tippens was told it may help him). 400mg (4ml of 10% suspension) should be sufficient and that is a cost of 70cents per dose

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dhccpa in reply tobeaverstate

I use the liquid as well.

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Mrtewills in reply tobeaverstate

Which liquid? And is it 4ml x2 daily?

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beaverstate in reply toMrtewills

safe-guard dewormer (1000ml is about 170 bucks) amazon.com/Safe-Guard-Dewor...

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Mrtewills in reply tobeaverstate

But what is the dosage for active cancer v. Maintenance?

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beaverstate in reply toMrtewills

Joe tippens was cured with only taking I believe a packet of dog dewormer powder 4x a week (222mg). subsequently I believe he has updated via his "mycancerstoryrocks" page that the protocol can be everyday and we use 400mg some people go higher I suppose but the big issue really is that the absorption from digestion is very poor (to increase chances of absorption take it AFTER a large meal which study on it with humans showed it increased absorption for some humans from nothing to a small amount (most of it passes through and is discharged without being absorbed.) absorption is not consistent between individuals that take it and they are not sure why it varies from person to person it may have to do with disgestive ph levels or other factors in stomach so that after meals they do know it increases. there has been some study done with large animals that used DMSO as a means to get absorption but I don't know how exactly they did that, they may have had a source to get pure fenbendazole powder to mix with the DMSO but the merck products (both granule and liquid suspension are only 10% fenbendazole and 90% other ingredients (forgot now what the other inert ingredients were). Tippens does recommend using Merck as the source as there has been other people selling and with some analysis they found it didn't actually contain much if any fenbendazole.

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beaverstate in reply toMrtewills

Tippens still takes it ( I think he has now lived 6 years past the point where he had extensive metastisis of his lung cancer with a 3month to death prognosis when he started. If I remember correctly he takes it 3 or 4 times a week and I don't know the dosage it may be the same dog dewormer powder which was 222mg a packet...he would just dump packet and then wash it down with water.

Bronzee profile image
Bronzee

try Lutetium or pluvicto and a lot of prayers.

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Granolaloaf in reply toBronzee

We’re on the prayers but maybe your other recommendations are the answer to those :) Many thanks

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CrocodileShoes

I'm looking to start Pluvicto, either in Australia or in Europe. Until then - and because I've failed both chemos I've tried, I'm looking to add Fenben to the Ivermectin that I currently take. However, dosing seems really confusing. Should I take capsules (444mg?) or the liquid? I weigh 70kg. Amazon has it for sale - could anyone recommend a reliable source?

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NobleDuck

Stage 4 Prostate cancer. My PSA was 10.29 and Gleason over 10 with metastasis to the shoulder when I started the Tippins Protocol. 12 weeks later it was down to 0.01.I foolishly reduced the dose and in 6 weeks my PSA was 18. I went back on the full protocol and in another 6 weeks PSA was 44.

Do you have to stay on the protocol permanently? Is the healing only temporary? Did I cause my cancer to adjust to the protocol when I went off of it?

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pakb in reply toNobleDuck

I didn't know there was a Gleason over 10?Have you had other treatments? There isn't any info in your bio about your diagnosis or treatments so it's hard to kniw what the protocol has done.

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NobleDuck in reply topakb

I should have said "just under 10".

dhccpa profile image
dhccpa in reply toNobleDuck

Have you done any ADT at all? I wouldn't use fenben alone to stop raging PCa in its tracks. Use it in conjunction with regular treatment.

tink88 profile image
tink88 in reply toNobleDuck

Did your prostate cancer spread to your shoulders?

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NobleDuck in reply totink88

Yes, the acromion bone.

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pakb

When you say he has been 'tinkering', does that mean he's been working with an oncology team and is giving treatments time to work? It would be helpful to know what his diagnosis and treatment details are.

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Granolaloaf in reply topakb

Thanks Pakb, thanks for your interest. in 2020 my uncle was diagnosed with prostate cancer following a PSA, reading of 60 His biopsy gave Gleason score of eight (four, four) and the MRI and other scan, showed that it had spread outside the prostate and was present in lymph, nodes, T3, N1, Mx. it was determined that only systemic treatments would be of value and additionally, that in his late 80s, chemotherapy was not a course of action for him. A multidisciplinary team of oncologists, urologists, and whatever other doctors, the UK hospital had, recommended a course of action, and he began three monthly hormonal injections (not sure which one, but it was reduced the testosterone). He initially responded well, and his PSA came down below one. Thinking he was fixed he chose to stop the hormonal treatment because he strongly disliked the feminising nature of the hormonal treatment. At the same time, he self prescribed a course of low-dose naltrexone (that’s the nature of his tinkering, in addition to the recent fenbendazole) and the LDN seemed to make him feel great but hasn’t ever seemed to impact his PSA or his cancer. Last year is PSA rose to over 100 in June and further scans showed spread to his ribs and a large 15 cm tumour beside his abdominal aortic lymph node. He reinitiated the three-monthly LHRH injections and was put on daily Bicalutamide maximum androgen blocker. By September his PSA was on 600 and a further Oncologist added abiraterone, but his PSA continued to rise , by about 100 a month, and more recently 300 a month, and is now sitting at 1600. The Oncologist has taken him off Bicalutamide and introduced dexamethasone. He is a strong-willed man who is asymptomatic.

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lcfcpolo

Hi. UK here. Pluvicto is available in the UK but is self pay. £13,000 a shot plus extra for scans. See the Royal Marsden website to make enquiries.

I'm on the Care Oncology Clinic protocol alongside ADT (Prostap) and Enzalutamide (Xtandi). There is no way of telling what works but the protocol includes Mebendazole, which you take one month on, alternating with one month on Doxycycline. You also have daily Atorvastatin and Metformin. Cost is approx £300 every 3 months plus an initial consultation fee. Good luck and well done for supporting your Uncle.

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Granolaloaf in reply tolcfcpolo

Grateful thanks, that’s really useful!

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Granolaloaf in reply tolcfcpolo

I like the look of the Care oncology clinic and Will get my uncle looking at that. Best wishes for your full and speedy recovery!

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dhccpa in reply tolcfcpolo

How long have you been on COC protocol? I looked into it four years ago but haven't bitten yet.

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lcfcpolo in reply todhccpa

I started in late January 2021, so 3 years.

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dhccpa in reply tolcfcpolo

Can you tell if it's doing anything at all? I use fenben, berberine, red yeast rice, but haven't found an antibiotic substitute for the one COC uses.

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lcfcpolo in reply todhccpa

In all honesty I have no idea if the Care Oncology Clinic (COC) protocol works. Neither do COC themselves but so far my results 3 years in have been excellent. Doxycycline is the only part of the protocol I struggle with, when it is hot. It has a photosensitive effect on my head and hands.

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Mlsliver78 in reply todhccpa

Nifuroxazide, Nitazoxanide Nitroxoline

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dhccpa in reply toMlsliver78

Hi. I don't know what you're saying about those things. I've never heard of them. Are they part of the COC protocol? Do you use those things yourself? Can you give me some context? Thanks

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Nfler in reply todhccpa

He mentioned Nitazoxanide earlier and I’ve read on its abilities n effectiveness in killing pca. Pre clinical trials have shown it’s more effective than most drugs for mpca which is the hardest to reach n kill…

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dhccpa in reply toNfler

Is that part of COC protocol now?

Callithrix profile image
Callithrix

Please check my detailed comment on fenbendazole in this forum or download a detailed commentary (dropbox.com/scl/fi/jnklzc3d....

Be very careful! In short: FB is a dewormer claimed to be harmless because it resorbs poorly and should therefore kill parasites only. However, it is a potent drug blocking cell division by the same mechanisms as the well-known drug docetaxel used in chemotherapy against prostate cancer, namely by blocking little protein strings within cells (tubulin) required both for transport of nutrients and for preparing cell division. So, why not using FB instead of the expensive docetaxel?

The reason is simple: FB must enter the bloodstream across the linings of the gut to reach prostate cancer cells. This is very difficult to control because FB blocks also uptake through the cells lining the guts. Thus, it must be repeatedly ingested. By doing so, it will start attacking the stem cells that produce the tissue lining the intestines, possibly ruining the small intestine. While the uncontrollable quantities of FB reaching the bloodstream might kill cancer cells, they will also kill the stem cells of the immune system and other cells producing hair or fingernails. For this reason, chemotherapies with cell-division blockers are done by controlled and precisely scheduled infusions trying to minimize the inevitable side effects such as nausea, vomiting, and reduced immunological response.

The manufacturers of dewormers selling it for pets usually stress that it is harmless but if you read the instructions carefully, you will usually see that feeding FB must be stopped after 3 days and new treatments postponed for weeks. This is a telltale sign for drugs suppressing stem cell division. They just do not tell you that neglecting this schedule can have severe consequences. Interestingly, a previous hype around FB has caused the disappearance of much internet information about side-effects and modes of action of FB, presumably by a concerted action of manufacturers afraid of off-label use of FB in humans. You may also check a Korean paper about this hype:

frontiersin.org/journals/on...

PS: Do not confound FB with the dewormer Ivermectin that has also antiviral and anti-inflammatory properties.

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dhccpa in reply toCallithrix

How long did you use fenben?

I've been on it 4 years. What effects should I be seeing in my intestines? I recently had a colonoscopy and a PET scan; what should show up there, based on your research?

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Granolaloaf in reply toCallithrix

That’s a useful, thoughtful reply. Grateful thanks and best wishes for a full recovery.

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Nfler in reply toCallithrix

That’s a very thorough explanation of fb’s pathway but not sure how accurate it is as Joe Tippens has been on it over 7️⃣ years along w thousands of his follower's and to my knowledge hasn’t mentioned anything about it destroying or hurting the small intestines. Furthermore, there are quite a few people here on it including dhccpa that’s been on it four years and I personally have been on ivermectin over a year and thus far the only side effect is mild lower white blood cell count ( borderline) and I counter it with Vit b3,6, and 12 and a little more organic red meat 🥩…

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Hotoneii in reply toCallithrix

The university of Glasgow is conducting a trial with docetaxel and mebendazole together, they work in sinergy, as per many anecdotal reports, to many to ignore. No evidence has been ever brought forward of any serious SE, except some elderly person with raised liver enzimes, which became normal 4 days after discontinuation. Fenben/Meben has different mechanisms of action, the microtubules is just one of them, another one is by blocking fermentation of glucose, which both cancer cells and parasites use, and another one is lowering the glutamine load, although with a weak action. That is why if you are on ketosis and take fenben, it will stun the growth of the tumor, even in the presence of IGF or other GFs. There are other better glutamine antagonists, but you have to know what you are doing in terms of how and when to dose them, otherwise they can seriously affect other organs. The strongest one is 6-diazo-5-oxo-L-norleucine (DON) but please don't try this at home.

I am not claiming Fenben will cure anything, but ADT alone certainly doesn't either, certainly not in CRPC, at least as a primary treatment. So in view of the potential benefits, low cost ( in EU/UK), and low risk, it is a no brainer, specially now that they are finding it works in sinergy with SOC treatments, which most certainly slowly destroy your body.

One reliable place is fenben labs (no association), top quality and CoA with each order.

It is best taken dissolved in a tbsp of evoo, with a meal. Some people take it with cimetidine to increase absorption.

Another alternative aid is artemisinin, again, it doesn't cure anything, but it makes standard drugs work much better, and less SE. Do not take antioxidants like IP6 or vit E, honokiol, etc. with artemisinin or it will blunt the effect. The protocol is usually 21 days.

Still, the best aid to any treatment is diet and exercise, like hard exercise if it can be tolerated, get your GKI<2 and then the options become many.

Cancer has to be approached as the resourceful multifaceted surviving organism that it is, every combined angle of attack is valid.

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85745

I have been taking Fenben for a year along with on /off cycling of Ivermectin . Worked my FBZ up to 2000mg / daily and IVM up to 60mg / single dose in evening . FBZ ITake with vit E ( succinate form) , D3/K2, B1, along with cimetidine , Tudcu. IVM taken with Bovine Lactoferrin 600mg. I mix my FBZ powder with olive oil, Vit E succinate 400mg powder and 3grams of ultra fine Clinoptilolite Zeolite powder - mixed into a very loose almost paste and then mixed into mashed Avacado. Then for my 2nd 2pm dose I take the liquid FBZ ( 10 ml ) mixed with 1/2 TSP of DMSO and distilled water 8 oz. This totals my 2000mg pr day. Feel free to prvt message me . I do much more .

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Scouse0151 in reply to85745

Hi, my name is Andy. I have had my prostate removed in May 22. After 6 weeks my psa was 1.6. It hoes up a point a month. The oncologist wants me to do radiation but after seeing what my Uncles and best mate went through, that is not for me. I would love to know your regimen. Any advice would be greatly appreciated.My e mail is bear.ellis0151@gmail.com

Have a top day.

I will call if you want.

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dhccpa

I've been on it for 4+ years, Lupron for 5+. I've also done numerous other things since metastatic diagnosis in mid 2018 (plant based diet, no alcohol, supplements, THC, etc.).

I'm still stable on just Lupron, but I'm not yet ready to make any dramatic claims about fenben. It did seem to raise my PSA about 3-4 months after starting it in 2020, but then PSA dropped back and fell to new low. My liver enzymes ALT and AST rose in the early months as well, but after a two-week pause, they fell back as well to new lows. Alkaline phosphatase has been excellent for four years.

Stay tuned!

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Mbnm in reply todhccpa

For 9 months on lupron injection quarterly and aberaterone daily…..T and PSA dropped under .O2

I thought that treatment was standard for prostate lymph node cancer till PSA and T levelsturned higher ?

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dhccpa in reply toMbnm

I think it is.

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Mbnm in reply todhccpa

is Pluvicto Lutetium next best if /when PSA reverses and starts to increase ?

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dhccpa in reply toMbnm

Chemo might be next if you haven't had it, or radiation depending on where mets are located.

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Aldo62

I am using Fenben, along with a lot of other approaches. Can't say for sure about it's effectiveness, but I am holding steady. No bad side effects from fenben, that I can see. There is a facebook page devoted to it, and you might find more info and experiences there.

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arete1105

I have used Fen and it dropped the PSA like a rock. I didn't detect any side effects from it. I was also on Lupron. My Onc said she never saw such a steep/quick drop in the PSA. Dose was 225/mg, 99% Purity.

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tink88 in reply toarete1105

May I ask what brand of FB you’re taking ? I’m currently taking Merck paste from chewy.com

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arete1105 in reply totink88

First bottle was Fenbendazole- Puridee brand, but I can't find that brand anymore. Currently I am using Phenben- Forgotten Formula' 444mg, Research grade. I take it 4x/week

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NecessarilySo

If he is willing, you might try to reduce his mets using heat, such as with heating pads. Heat over 106 degrees F can kill cancer cells of all types. It may be worth a try because at his stage of PSA he needs to kill prostate cancer cells, wherever they may be. and however or whenever possible. Also consuming lycopenes such as with tomato soup or juice may help to slow down the progression of the disease. I am only 78 but I have survived well for over ten years with APC. (I'm on Lupron quarterly.)

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BigCDrugSurfin in reply toNecessarilySo

Awesome, go go go! diagnosed @67 a little over a year ago s4/mets/bones/lymph. triplet protocol with longer term lupron and abiraterone. psa down to .3, lymph mets gone, we'll see about the bones. Do you know people or studies on the heat treatment?

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NecessarilySo in reply toBigCDrugSurfin

Other than myself, no. Try this:

urmc.rochester.edu/encyclop...

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BigCDrugSurfin

might want to check florida sharkman on truth social. fb, ivm, doxy, berberine, etc.

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AlmostnoHope

FB and IVM is not effective on PCa cells which are androgen dependant and does not lower PSA. I want to meet the people that don't do any conventional ADT and put their life into this unregulated cheap cancer cures from China and get success. If only it was that easy.

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Nfler in reply toAlmostnoHope

Nice to meet you and now you have met someone that’s only taking ivermectin cbd and a cpl supplements with absolutely no ADT for over a year now. Psa has been as high as 19 and when I tried to get off ADT it would shoot up to 6. Discovered ivm a year ago and took it one month with ADT n psa went down to an astonishing .11 and then proceeded to use ivm solely, psa went to 1.95 and had trickled down to.95 after one year. After the year I now take half the dose of ivm n psa has dropped down to .65, I’m not saying I’m out of the woods yet but my oncologist is astonished the psa keeps dropping wo ADT and says whatever your doing is working n to keep it up…as there is always wonderful hope…😁😇😎

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tink88 in reply toNfler

Can I ask what brand & dosage of IV your taking ?

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Nfler in reply totink88

Sure I started using this from Mexico

Ivm
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tink88 in reply toNfler

Can that be ordered from the states or do you live in Mexico?

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Nfler in reply totink88

Yes but found India was cheaper from “all day chemists”, ivermectol Austra brand.

I started at about 12-19 mg/ day, 4 times a week and after a year then dropped to two days a week n then 1️⃣ now back up to 2️⃣ days a week for maintenance. It’s pretty well tolerated at .4 mg/ kg of body weight, hence 100 kg is 220 lbs, which is what I weigh at 219lbs. Also do 100 mg of cbd oil I get from Lazarus as they’ll give you a 60% discount for low income and or cancer pts I believe and then also do 1900 mg of turmeric w pepper capsules for better absorption. May want to do olive oil on days taking ivermectin but it does have an accumulative effect, so if you feel a little off or sluggish cut back a little on it as I did.

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tink88 in reply toNfler

My PSA was 12.3 back in December.Been taking IV & Fenbendazole 222mg Since mid Jan also taking CBD,Bio available Curcumin 1000mg,Berberine 1200mg (JT protocol) Apricot seeds (B17 , Soursop tea ,along with cutting out sugar/carbs kind of keto style diet & 16:8 intermittent fasting. Few other supplements as well. Can you send (or pm me a link from India? Thank you in advance

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Nfler in reply totink88

Sure don’t have link but it’s all day chemists and I get the austro or ivermectol, they’re really good about following up thru the whole process. Here’s a pic

Pic of Austra brand
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tink88 in reply toNfler

I found their link on facebook but unfortunately yheir website won't open on my browser. I'm in USA.

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Nfler in reply totink88

I’m in the US also here’s an email promo alldaychemists.com

Promo ends the 19th today
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Mlsliver78 in reply totink88

Tennessee OTC now

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AlmostnoHope in reply toNfler

Thats a promising hopeful result.

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Nfler in reply toAlmostnoHope

Thank you sir, I can’t speak for fenben as I haven’t used it myself but can for ivermectin and thus far it’s been very effective in killing the cancer as it targets Fox A1 and ku70/ku80 in prostate cancer cells. I have a dental background so I understand the pathway to a certain extent in the way the cells are destroyed (apoptosis) n it was pretty easy choice for me to give a try. I can only say it’s worked for me and not very much risk as the drug has been safely administered millions if not billions of times w very few side effects. Also here are my psa results after testosterone returned…

Psa table
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Mlsliver78 in reply toNfler

What your protocol for Pca with Ivermectin daily by weight

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Nfler in reply toMlsliver78

I’m100 kg, (219lbs) so up to 40mg/day is supposed to b safe. I personally now take 12 mg/day 3x/wk m, t and th and i do bloodwork every six weeks. I’m due July 10 so I’ll have an update then but thus far psa has been stable at under 1…

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Nfler in reply toAlmostnoHope

And my last most recent psa, all w no ADT for over a year…

Most recent psa
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daleboy3

hello I was recommended Fenbendazole for pains in my prostate area I have got say the pains dropped by a good 80% within 3 days so I took them for 5 days then waited a week & took them again for 5 days I am very impressed with the results as I had found sitting down painful before now 2 months on I only take it when I feel pain coming on the other supplement I take is Black Fermented Garlic capsules as the Acillin active chemical is 12 times higher than standard Garlic & this has raised my immune system levels significantly as my bodies oxygen level is 97 to 99% & that’s using my sports watch or the fingertip pulse Oximeter which is really good & shows I’m on the right track now

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Cygnus52

There are some (largely pre-clinical) data in support of fenbendazole and mebendazole for prostate cancer, though these are far from conclusive. A warning, however, to anyone who has Gilbert's Syndrome: do NOT take these drugs as your liver cannot adequately metabolize them and they may result in rhabdomyolysis. Among drugs with anti-parasitic and possible anti-cancer properties, one that is looking more promising to me than fenben, meben or ivermectin is nitazoxanide, but, again, the data are very preliminary.y

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Nfler in reply toCygnus52

Wow that’s great news 📰, didn’t know about nitrazoxanide but happy to hear about it, as I’m having pretty good luck 🍀 w ivermectin..

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Cygnus52 in reply toNfler

how much ivermectin are you taking and on what dosage schedule?

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Nfler in reply toCygnus52

I started at about 12-19 mg/ day, 4 times a week and after a year then dropped to two days a week n then 1️⃣ now back up to 2️⃣ days a week for maintenance. It’s pretty well tolerated at .4 mg/ kg of body weight, hence 100 kg is 220 lbs, which is what I weigh at 219lbs. I do 100 mg of cbd oil I get from Lazarus as they’ll give you a 60% discount for low income and or cancer pts I believe and then do 1900 mg of turmeric w pepper capsules for better absorption. Also may want to do olive oil on days taking ivermectin but it does have an accumulative effect, so if you feel a little off cut back on the ivm as I did.

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Cygnus52 in reply toNfler

Thanks, that is very helpful.

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NobleDuck in reply toCygnus52

I have Gilberts Syndrome and take fenbendazole. I would appreciate any links you can give me regarding the liver being unable to metabolize fenbendazole. Thank you.

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Cygnus52 in reply toNobleDuck

I've seen a couple case histories and am myself intolerant to it; have Gilbert's. I am happy it has not affected you; so the adverse effect may be highly variable. I cannot tolerate statins either and they have been reported to affect those with Gilbert's adversely. How long have you been taking fenben and at what dosage? The link to this case history is for mebendazole which is biochemically very closely related to fenben.

dx.doi.org/10.1111/jcpt.13033

This notwithstanding, the anti-parasitic drugs are very deserving of further research for their pleiotropic therapeutic effects. Look into nitazoxanide which demonstrated remarkable benefits in an animal model of metastatic PC, where very little has been demonstrated to work, either in preclinical or clinical trials. Also want to note that there seems to be net benefit to having Gilbert's despite some downsides. You may be familiar with that literature.

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NobleDuck in reply toCygnus52

I've been on it bout six months at 233mg/day.

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NobleDuck in reply toCygnus52

If appreciate any info about Gilbert's net benefit. I've not heard about that I always just pictured old red blood cells circulating past their prime.

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Cygnus52 in reply toNobleDuck

Here's one of the earlier reports on the signifiant benefits of Gilbert's. There are many others. doi.org/10.1111/jgh.12279 here's one more recent:

doi.org/10.1016/j.jhep.2023...

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NobleDuck in reply toCygnus52

Thanks Cygnus52. I had no idea. BTW The second link you gave seems to be wrong.

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NobleDuck in reply toCygnus52

BTW I tolerate stations fine. I must be an anomaly.

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jtango

My 84 year old husband has been on it for over a year. He was diagnosed with stage 4 PCa with a psa of 96 and his last scan, a couple of months ago, was clean. NO SIGN of cancer. He's also been taking a lot more than fenben, Search "Jane McClelland cancer". She's in the UK and has written a book . Also has a list of docs all over the world who have integrated her findings into their protocols. Check her Facebook page for those names. My husband was also on Lupron, which gave him a headstart but dangerous side effects for the long haul. Good luck to you!

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Cygnus52 in reply tojtango

how much fenben is he taking and on what schedule, cycling on and off, or continuous?

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jtango in reply toCygnus52

He takes Panacur for small dogs, 1 gram packet, 3 days on, 4 days off. In addition, he's on a vegan diet, and takes supplements designed to block cancer feeding pathways recommended by Jane McClelland. Like I said, he took Lupron for about a year which also gave him a headstart but isn't viable indefinitely because of serious side effects and the fact that cancer will eventually become insensitive to it, which is a very big problem.

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Cape1 in reply tojtango

Jane’s book is excellent a, as is that of Dr Jeffrey Dach. His book covers all the same supplements and off label drugs and is more direct and easier to follow.

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jtango in reply toCape1

Thanx! I’ll get that book…I found McClelland’s difficult to follow.

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Mlsliver78

get him on Paw Paw 100 mg and Fenben --1000 mg 4 days on 3 days off , nitazoxanide, 1000 mg daily 30 days then recheck scans,

ultrabotanica.com/product-c...

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Cygnus52 in reply toMlsliver78

no side effects on that dosage of nitazoxanide?

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Bigmls7890 in reply toCygnus52

Take with a healthy fat and meals

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j-o-h-n

Two for one sale, fenbendazole and a free bag of cat litter..............at your local health-food shoppe.

Good Luck, Good Health and Good Humor.

j-o-h-n

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bubbacora

this is JWP & I’m telling you Fenbendezol saved me, I was diagnosed 2 years & 3 months ago & stage 4 Gleason 9 Metastasis bones- lymph nodes- & both lungs extremely weak within a month of Fenbendezol I was running stairs

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32Percenter

I've been looking into Fenbendazole for almost a year now, mining threads like these for experiences. Also scouring Facebook Fenbendazole groups, group chats and forums, etc. There are lots of anecdotes but I haven't found any convincing evidence that Fenbendazole does anything for advanced prostate cancer. Universally I'll read about a "success story", but then keep reading or press the poster for more info and find they went on ADT drugs at the same time and/or a kitchen sink's worth of other off-label meds or concentrated supplements. So it's impossible to nail down that it's the Fenbendazole doing the heavy lifting. This thread is chock full of similar examples.

The only interesting "case study" of isolated effect I've come across, assuming the guy was telling the truth, was of an older gentleman with aPCa who reduced his PSA from 79 to 51 and has kept it around there for years using only a gram of Fenbendazole a day (5 packs of Panacur). He mixes it with DMSO to help absorption. This shows it's possible (again assuming he wasn't lying about being only on the Fen), but let's be honest, ~50 PSA is still indicative of extensive metastasis and activity and is hardly a cure by any measure. Still, the guy is apparently alive and kicking and lives a very active and healthy lifestyle with no symptoms (but then again, could this be what's keeping the cancer in check, and not the dog meds?)

If a patient has the type of personality where they'll try dog meds to fight their cancer, chances are they're on 20 other unconventional things purported to fight cancer too. And because this type also likes to go "all-in" when they fight, they'll start taking everything within a very short period too. So what's working, and how would they ever know? If their PSA goes down, was it the Fenbendazole? The artimisinin? The ivermectin? High-dose Turkey Tail or Reishi mushroom extract? Multivitamin????

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Nfler in reply to32Percenter

Half full or half empty. I can honestly tell you that I use ivermectin, cbd oil, turmeric n multi vitamins and absolutely no other natural substances and or heavy exercise worked until I tried the regiment I’m on now. So you can try n convince yourself otherwise but read my posts as the ivermectin definitely seems to be killing the cancer. I follow Joe Tippens protocol except for ivm instead of fenben, so I tend to go w the proof is in the pudding. It’s up to you whether you want to try it or not but I’m a firm believer along w thousands of others that have taken it. Also you refer to it as a dog med but it’s actually a human med that won a Nobel prize for its efficacy and most important safety after being used not millions but billions of times on humans. Hope this helps and yes we have to do anything possible to kill the disease 🦠 not just suppress it. Good luck n feel free to ask me any questions if you have any…😁😇😎

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32Percenter in reply toNfler

NFLer the OP's question was about Fenbendazole, not your success with Ivermectin. That's amazing that IVM smoked your cancer, but my point remains - almost all of the *Fenbendazole* success stories with advanced PCa are muddled with the inclusion of powerful ADT drugs and/or a boatload of other supplements. And in the one anecdote I saw where the FB was the only thing used with PCa, the results were less than stellar.

"So you can try n convince yourself otherwise" isn't the issue. You don't start with the belief that a dewormer drug cures or controls prostate cancer, then look at evidence to convince yourself it doesn't. You investigate the evidence to determine if there's effectiveness, and if there's enough evidence THEN you're convinced. This is what I've been doing with Fenbendazole, and it's actually the starting point of the entire scientific method.

With this said though I should also say I've seen lots of testimonials about people controlling or outright eliminating SCLC, PanCan, glioblastoma, etc with Fenbendazole alone when conventional medicine fell short. But for prostate cancer it appears to be weak, IF it has any effect at all. In fact for treating CRPC I've found interesting evidence for other off-label meds that control prolactin like cabergoline, bromocriptine, and Levo-dopa (search my posts on this), so I'm not against using an off-label med as long as there's evidence it works.

Last thing, calling Fenbendazole a "dog med" seems to upset its proponents, but despite the past accolades in human use its primary use today IS literally for dogs and livestock (the Panacur packaging in every market has a dog face on it). You can see I literally just got back from the vet because my dog has the runs, and they gave me Fenbendazole for him. If you or I go see the doc for a case of the sh**ts, they don't prescribe us Fenbendazole. Casually calling it a dog med isn't talking down on it, it's calling it what it's primarily used for nowadays.

Dog prescription
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Nfler in reply to32Percenter

Haha I guess they won’t prescribe fenben to us if we have the Shiites but it did seem like you were discounting as only a dog med so my bad, and I thought u were throwing ivm under the bus as well, thanks for clarifying it. I didn’t realize fb was not as effective killing pcA as it is other cancers. Joe Tippens n his Drs claim it’s effective in just about all cancers but I haven’t verified that. I’m not out of the woods yet by no means but thus far the ivm seems to b really working…😁

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32Percenter in reply toNfler

Last LAST thing, I actually stumbled into taking "75%" of the original Joe Tippens protocol too pretty much by accident.

Since around the time of my diagnosis I've been taking 1000mg of turmeric with piperine daily, after I saw some research showing it can slow or block the formation of bone mets. I started taking 30mg or more CBD nightly too to sleep, with only a couple days off every few weeks since. And a multivitamin with K2 has been part of my daily nutrition since forever. By the time I came across mycancerstory.rocks, the Fenbendazole was the only novelty. I may add an anti-parasitic one day if the beast becomes castrate-resistant, but for the reasons I've already stated I'd go with Ivermectin over Fenbendazole.

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Nfler in reply to32Percenter

OK that’s great info and ironically I also stumbled into following 75% of jt protocol as I read up on pub meds recommendation of repurposing IVM as an anti cancer drug especially pcA only to later find out he was doing the same except w fenben

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Mlsliver78 in reply to32Percenter

Do both and Paw Paw 8 weeks 120 mg , also luteolin, astragalus, melatonin. Boron.

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GobeatPSA in reply toNfler

Hello,What brand of the ivermectin did you used? Please share where can I purchase ivermectin. Also, please share your protocol and others supplements.

Thanks 🙏

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Nfler in reply toGobeatPSA

I use ivermectin, cbd oil, turmeric n multi vitamins. I get the ivm from all day chemists.com out of India, Austro or ivermectol brands and or ivermectina from Mexico. India takes about 3/4 weeks to arrive but follows up on emails the whole way thru. Get the 12mg pills and they are about $1/ per so 150 tabs are $150 shipping included. I take 3 tabs/ wk but 4 are recommended to start out, 48mg/week.

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GobeatPSA in reply toNfler

Thank you so much for sharing 🙏

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kidndogmom

No matter what people say helped them, there will always be naysayers. I have TNBC which is one of the most aggressive breast cancers out there. Throughout my research for the last 2 years, I have personally spoken with 2 people who are NED from using Joe's Fenben protocol and read testimonials from many others. Does it work for everyone ? No, but nothing to lose, everything to gain.

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