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Information for Mebendazole and Fenbendazole Users

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There are some members on this forum who are taking either mebendazole or fenbendazole, two antihelminthic drugs that appear to have anticancer activity. The former is for human use and the latter for animals. I did a web and literature search to obtain more information on these drugs - this post summarizes the information I found (and which I will update periodically). I hope members find it useful. I should mention that I have been following a modified COC Protocol since early December 2019 and substituted mebendazole for fenbendazole. I will know next week whether the protocol has affected the trajectory of the PSA.

Cheers,

Phil

Mebendazole and Fenbendazole (Interim Summary - 2020.02.07)

1. Mebendazole and fenbendazole have very low solubilities but publicly available solubility data is variable. Nevertheless, it is possible that fenbendazole may have a solubility that is ~10 fold lower than mebendazole and therefore likely achieves a lower systemic concentration, when compared as solids.

2. Fenbendazole formulations in the form of suspensions or dispersions likely increase the bioavailability of fenbendazole compared to solid formulations in powder form, because the particle size is very small and dispersants are used to stabilize the suspensions.

3. The additives used to prepare fenbendazole products, solid and suspensions, are typical of those used in human drug products. On the other hand, the purity or quality of those additives is unknown.

4. Mebendazole very likely achieves an effective systemic concentration considering that adverse reactions have been observed during clinical trails and the post marketing period.

5. Although mebendazole and fenbendazole have very low solubilities in solid form, high dosages and prolonged exposure to the antihelminthics should be avoided because of the potential for liver damage (e.g., jaundice, elevated liver enzymes (ALT, AST), agranulocytosis, neutropenia and immunosuppression.

6. Increasing the bioavailability of fenbendazole by untested and unproven methods is not recommended, due to the risk of serious side effects. Alternatively, cimetidine, an anti-acid drug, can be used as a safer method to improve the systemic concentration of the antihelminthic.

7. A weekly intermittent dosage schedule appears to be efficacious according to anecdotal reports, but continuous dosing for 1 to 3 months can be followed similar to the way clinical trials with mebendazole are being conducted (Clinical Trials.gov).

8. Interruptions in taking the antihelminthics should be based on changes in blood biomarkers, cancer specific antigens, circulating tumor cell load (if available) and progression according to CAT and bone scans.

9. Fenbendazole and mebendazole should not be used as substitutes for standard of care (SOC) therapies. They should be used as adjuvants to SOC providing that there is no known interference with the therapy.

10. It is advisable to closely monitor liver enzymes (ALT, AST, ALP) as well as lymphocytes when taking antihelminthics. It is further advised to start at a moderate dosage and to escalate the dosage after a period of time (1 – 4 weeks).

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Ahk1

I took it for 6 days straight. I know people take it for 3 then 4 days off but just wanted to start the process early. I had a GI issues after the 6 days so I stopped and now I feel better. I just got scared but looking forward for updates from other members.

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PhilipSZacarias in reply to Ahk1

At 250 mg x 2 per day with meals I have tolerated it fairly well. Liver enzymes were OK last time I checked.

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Appraiser in reply to PhilipSZacarias

hi Phill

Don’t understand your dosage....shouldn’t the protocol be 1 gram per day =1000mg for3 days and 4 off

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Shanti1 in reply to Appraiser

Pancure-C is the brand of fenbendazole most people are using. 1g of powder contains 222mg of fenbendazole.

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PhilipSZacarias in reply to Appraiser

I have been taking Panacur 10% Suspension, a liquid form of fenben

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dhccpa in reply to PhilipSZacarias

How is the taste?

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PhilipSZacarias in reply to dhccpa

Not terrible. I quickly washed the suspension down with water.

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dhccpa in reply to PhilipSZacarias

I may try it to save a few bucks long term.

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jdm3

Thanks for the summary. What is the recommended dosing from oncologists or other members? I suppose it depends whether it is meb or fen.

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PhilipSZacarias in reply to jdm3

Go to Joe Tippens website and you can find recommendations on dosage. I think it’s also called Get Busy Living. Cheers, Phil

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Litlerny

Thanks for the very informative and interesting post. I tried fenbendazole for several months last year, but it appears to have had no positive benefits for me. However, we are all different. Hopefully it has some efficacy for the rest of you who are using it as an adjunct to your prescribed treatment. Have a great day. 😎

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dhccpa in reply to Litlerny

You probably should have given it at least six months.

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PhilipSZacarias in reply to dhccpa

There was no change in the slope of the PSA rise. If the doubling time had increased, I would have continued longer. Cheers, Phil

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Appraiser

Thanks Philip

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WXYZ123

I have two week worth of Mebendazole and a book The Immunotherapy Revolution by Dr Jason Williams you can have if you’ll pay shipping

Dr Williams sent it for John but it’s too late for him. Dr Williams protocol uses FDA approved drugs differently

Google him, check it out, wish we had known about this a few years ago, maybe I’d have another decade or so with my beloved husband instead of making his burial arrangements

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monte1111 in reply to WXYZ123

Read your decade long story of love. So sorry it came full circle so soon.

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WXYZ123 in reply to monte1111

♥️

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nobaday

Hi Phil

So I’m in process of getting 180x 100mg of mebendazole out of Mexico.I’m currently on abiraterone/ dexamethasone 0.5mg.

Kapakahi on this site is taking 400mg daily mebendazole with Cimetidine.

My PSA 26 months in is 0.01 so basically undetectable.

Normal dosage appears to be 100mg Mebendazoke daily.

Not sure if I will take when get or wait for PSA to start climbing.

How old are you?

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PhilipSZacarias

Hello, I am 65 years old 66 in June. 100 mg may be sufficient for parasitic infections. The bioavailability of the antihelminthics is low so taking a higher dosage may be indicated in order to have an impact on cancer. Your PSA is quite low which is excellent. If you want to know that mebendazole is having an impact then I would wait until the PSA starts to rise slowly and after obtaining 4-5 results (1-2 months apart) you will have a curve you can plot. Then you can start taking the mebendazole and if it has an impact in the slope of the curve will change. This is the procedure that I follow. I should mention that fenbendazole did not appear to work for me. Cheers, Phil

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dhccpa in reply to PhilipSZacarias

Has anyone used DMSO to increase bioavailability of fenben in oral use?

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PhilipSZacarias in reply to dhccpa

I have heard reports on the internet of DMSO being used but the risk of side effects are likely increased. I would not do it myself. Cheers, Phil

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