I've been trying for many years to decide whether to take a protein powder supplement to help maintain muscle mass. Since I started on ADT in 2016, I've lost 30 pounds. I don't know how much is due to the ADT, and how much is due to my diet. I'm 172 pounds now. I was muscular and athletic at 202, and I'm still that way, but with about 20 pounds less muscle. I want to live as long as possible, so I eat mostly vegetables, healthy fish, nuts and that type of food mostly. It's hard to get enough protein from eating just veggies and nuts. Plus, it's not a good idea to overeat nuts. Thus, the question is whether to take a powder supplement each day, or not.
I've had several bottles of fermented veggie powder, as well as a few bottles of organic cow whey protein but I'm concerned about the IGF-1 and some of the amino acids that are claimed to promote cancer growth. The China study (referred to by Dr. Colin Cambell and Dr. Essylstein showed higher advanced cancer deaths in people who regularly eat cow meat. I have seen several articles saying that eating cow meat grows cancer. Some people say that it's not bad if it is from grass-fed cows who have not been given hormones and anti-biotics, but I have no idea whether the China cows were raised like this or not.
Anyway, I'd like to hear from anyone on this site, who has any good evidence supporting or disparaging the use of whey protein, and, whether goat and sheep whey protein is better than cow whey protein? I know there have been some discussions about this in the past, but there may be some new findings, and any info would be good for new members in this group.
Here is a study that supports casein for slowing cancer growth.
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"This study suggests that there is a striking correlation between anti-cancer activity of milk caseins and their physicochemical properties such as alpha helix structure and positive and negative charges. Huang et al showed highly charged COS (chitooligosaccharide) derivatives could significantly reduce cancer cell viability, regardless of the positive or negative charges [19]. The secondary structure (α-helical or β-sheet) of anticancer peptides is related to the high percentage of negative and positive charges. Several studies reported that alpha helical cationic anticancer peptides (ACPs) displayed unique mechanisms of action and several extraordinary properties such as broad-spectrum activity and rapid action and cancer cells couldn’t fight against them [20]. According to our result, milk casein may be a good candidate for in vivo treatment of cancer patients."
A couple concerns I have about this report is that all the cited references are old, with the most recent one being from 2015. I also don't know if it's the peptides, which might have to be isolated in order to be effective, or would it still be effective by taking the standard powder, in Goat, Sheep or Cow form. I'm also concerned because many men have stated that casein and IGF-1 grow accelerate cancer growth, which is consistent with the "China Study" illuminated by Esslystein and Campbell.
FYI - while using darolutamide / Nubeqa, I find that it takes even longer to recover from exercise, which is part of the reason I would like to add protein powder, in order to expedite exercise recovery, but I won't use it if I think it is accelerating the cancer growth. I suppose I could just eat more low mercury wild salmon instead of 2-3 times a week and have potentially less concern over IGF-1.
Here is another study that says Goat/Sheep whey has promise in restricting mTOR, which might slow cancer growth:
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articl...
"5. Conclusions
Amino acids are significant activators of mTORC1, an important factor that regulates cell growth and the metabolism. However, its overactivation leads to metabolic disorders, several cancer types and aging. Administration of sheep/goat whey protein in rats reduces amino acid levels in plasma and inactivates mTORC1 in the liver, therefore, it appears that it acts protectively. Specifically, the levels of 22 plasma amino acids were examined and 15 of them were reduced significantly in the experimental group compared to the control group. The reduction percentage ranged from 29% to 52%. Among them, the BCAAs (i.e., isoleucine, leucine, valine) whose elevated levels are implicated in IR probably through the upregulation of mTOR complex 1 are included. Furthermore, sheep/goat whey protein in liver reduced the p70-S6K1 (Thr389) expression by 32.5% in the experimental group compared to the control group, thus leading to the putative inhibition of the adverse, disease-related effects induced by mTOR overactivation. The mode of its action appears to mimic the beneficial impact of fasting on health. This is an intriguing piece of evidence indicating that sheep/goat whey protein could potentially be used as an alternative and promising nutritional intervention for the prevention or alleviation of diseases associated with homeostasis and growth disturbance."
Below, is a clip from a report on cow milk and its deleterious effects, including increased cancer growth. Report link: ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articl...
"Notably, recent evidence underlines that mTORC1 activates the expression of RNA polymerase III (Pol III), which limits longevity [543]. Increased mTORC1 signaling shortens lifespan and accelerates aging-related processes such as cellular senescence and stem cell exhaustion [544,545,546,547,548,549,550,551,552,553,554,555]. Thus, persistent overactivation of mTORC1 by continued cow milk consumption accelerates aging and overall mortality of mTORC1-driven diseases of civilization (Figure 3).
Milk-mediated mTORC1 signaling. Upper panel: physiological milk signaling exclusively only during the postnatal breastfeeding period with milk derived from the biological mother (human lactation genome). Lower panel: cow milk-driven overactivation of mTORC1 begins with maternal cow milk consumption during pregnancy, continues with high protein cow milk-based artificial formula, and continues with milk consumption during all age periods of human life. Persistent milk signaling with overactivated mTORC1 modifies growth trajectories during childhood and adolescence and promotes diseases of civilization."
I drank a lot of skim milk and sugary yogurts as a kid. Maybe the issue is not IGF-1. Could the problem be in the cow milk, and its overconsumption, as an everyday drink and food. Maybe the goat and sheep milk have the opposite effect as the cow milk?