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Has anyone received Ozone or Vitamin C IVs before? And what were your results? I'm not asking as related to cancer or the Wuhan virus. I'm just asking in terms of general health and immune boosting. I think my prostate cancer radiation treatments weakened my immune system. I've had tightness and burning in my lungs, as well as headaches since Jan 16th. I think the doctors have done a poor job treating me. They started out my saying it's a virus so just ride it out, then I went to the ER and they said not a heart attack so you can go home, then they gave me 5 days of prednisone which made me feel improved until they were out of my system then back to same pains, then they tried Augmentin which helped slightly but things reset to bad a few days after taking, then the most recent doctor gave my Levaquin for 10 days which seemed to be working but now after a week from the last tablet, the same symptoms have returned. Seems like antibiotic resistance. Anyway, this is why I'm considering Vitamin C therapy and Ozone therapy. If you have used these naturopathic treatments or personally know someone that had tried them, then I'd love to hear from you. I've read a lot of opinions and watched videos on YouTube but looking for someone with first or second hand knowledge.

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George

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I moved away from my nat dr..otherwise I would be doing it all . I did 50 mg C IVs twice weekly and went in to remission. It gave me energy when I had none. The first time that I peed again with tubes out of my back was during a Vitamin C I v . It’s good stuff . If you have the means . Do it . Ozone too . Save yourself . Plenty put these means down . I’m A believer . Wimp out

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thanks Wimpy. I appreciate your first hand insights.

Happy Easter

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Best of luck to you George . Happy Easter .

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Haven't done it but haven't read about any downside, only upside.

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It can’t hurt anything and I believe it can really help a lot . Hyperbaric I’d do also if I had the means. I felt that the c helped my perilous urology at the time. It makes you per a lot and you must stay super hydrated while doing it . Good lick 🍀

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I did vitC about 15 years ago when I was watching and waiting but the end result was obvious, so I consulted a Dr/naturopath who was much respected in the Sydney gay community during the AIDS scourge. I did firstly 4 days a week of 125g infusion for about 3 months then decided to go all the way to 250g, 4 days a week for another 3 months. I think there was a placebo effect and a temporary reduction in PSA but at the 6 month mark it was pretty well where I would have expected it if I did nothing. 250g is about the max that any responsible doc will do. Main problem is pain at the infusion site. VitC is highly irritating and pain goes away not long after each infusion. But for the maybe 4-5 hours you are there, just grit your teeth. At that level, its not cheap. Apart from that pain, no other side effects. Subjectively, I just felt a bit more healthy generally and had neither colds nor flu during and at least 6 months after.

I don't have experience or much knowledge of ozone therapy, but I would be cautious. At least with VitC, you know that these levels of exposure do not hasten cancers, thanks to the work of Linus Pauling. There is a bit of a suspicion that lower, oral doses may increase growth of PCa. On my poor understanding, the rationale for mega dose intravenous VitC was that at those concentrations it was taken up by cancer cells in preference to glucose and then gave off hydrogen peroxide and cell go boom. Didn't work for me, but there a few here who have positive experiences.

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ok thanks. ya, I'm just trying to get rid something that appears to be a bacterial infection that's resistant to antibiotics. I spent the entire weekend reading reviews and haven't found anyone who had a negative review of ozone or vitamin c for cancer or general health usage but I wanted to check with guys on this site because I presumed that some had tried these treatments.

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Wassersug in reply toGeorgeGlass

Dear George,

I do not normally post here, but I feel your request for opinions on these two treatments warrants a cautionary note.

You ended your original message with the statement "If you have used these naturopathic treatments or personally know someone that had tried them, then I'd love to hear from you." And above you write, "I spent the entire weekend reading reviews and haven't found anyone who had a negative review of ozone or vitamin c for cancer or general health usage...."

I am both a scientist and a PCa patient. As scientists, we spend a lot of time worrying about biased data. I do not want to scare you, but when it comes to cancer treatments, one needs to consider how biased positive opinions might be. One possible reason you have not seen negative comments from men about ozone and high dose IV Vit C treatment could very well be because they are now all dead.

There are ways to tell reliable from unreliable website postings. Wikipedia is pretty good on high dose Vit C and provides summary information in a generally readable form. So is Quackwatch. However, for the most up to date and what I believe is generally reliable information, check out PubMed.

Feel free to message me individually, if you want to discuss further.

Richard Wassersug

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Hey Wasserug!

Why didn't you warn him about the continued use of Levaquin? With the FDA warnings that have become more stringent in the last few years? I have suffered severe damage to ligaments tendons and joints. Although the Achilles tendon is most mentioned, my chiropractor who has decades of experience told me when my right shoulder shredded while just unracking my warm up weight that the fluoroquinolones go for the old injuries likened to low hanging fruit.

The fluoros have also been linked in studies to doubling the incidence of aortic aneurysms. Intravenous C infusions will not destroy your life leaving you in pain or kill you. The fluoros have caused blindness, neuropathy and the list goes on.

Currumpaw

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Wassersug in reply toCurrumpaw

Dear Currumpaw,

My email was meant to address George's concern about what he might take in the future. He didn't ask for opinions on his past treatment, so I did not see much value in comment on that.

Richard W.

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Hay Wassersug!

If you weren't aware of the dangers of the fluoros you know now. Every athletic injury I have ever had in my life has returned because of Cipro and Levaquin used in biopsy procedures.

Fluoros have destroyed lives and even killed people. As his doctor feels comfortable in giving him a month of Levaquin it is reasonable to assume his doctor will again prescribe Levaquin. A friend was prescribed one of the early fluoros. He lost so much of his vision his wife had to drive him to work. He was healthy, robust mid 40's fellow until he was given the fluoro for a cold!

Information about the dangers of these drugs is so important. It was years before I could sleep more than an hour because of the pain from my old injuries reactivated by the fluoros.

Currumpaw

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Good info, sorry about what you went through Currumpaw. There is so much knowledge out there but the country doesn't do a great job of spreading it. Thank goodness for social media like this.

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That's interesting. I did read the warnings about the Achilles. I have had some discomfort in my knees since taking Levaquin. I didn't know about the Aortic Aneurisms. That is concerning because I already have coronary artery disease. Is the risk still high after finishing the bottle a few weeks ago? By the way, ozone has been shown to reduce or eliminate neuropathy in some people.

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Hey GeorgeGlass!

The warning years ago was that adverse reaction to the fluoros could happen as long as six months after their use. I had a biopsy in July, another in September, a procedure in October followed a week later by a prescription for oral Levaquin, maybe a week in duration.

In the spring a my right triceps was "tender". A month later an old hip injury became painful. In August by just unracking my warm up weight to bench my right shoulder audibly shredded. I just let the weight hit my chest as I knew by the shredding sound I was in trouble. I was trying to minimize damage.

I was told that post ablation biopsy was necessary in December even though my PSA was stable. Cipro and Levaquin again. In 1988 a ligament in my back ripped. I hadn't completely forgotten about it but it had healed and my workouts included deadlifts with 350 lbs. All I did was get out of bed one February morning after the biopsy and fluoros again and I was on a knee--the ligament ripped again. A chiropractor with decades of experience diagnosed the adverse reaction--not the first time by any mean that she has seen the fluoros harm people. The fluoros like the old injuries.

Rocephin and Cefdinir can be substituted for the fluoros as prophylactics for sepsis.

Best of luck to you.

Currumpaw.

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GeorgeGlass in reply toCurrumpaw

Holy moly, how many flouroquins did you take in total? I took 10-500mg tablets of Levaquin. I hope that isn't going to cause catastrophe for me too. I have a new problem every few months ever since I got cancer. It's really screwed up. And the gosh dam doctor's dont even tell you about these side effect threats!

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Currumpaw in reply toGeorgeGlass

Hey GeorgeGlass!

Before the adverse reaction that I reported

18 X500 mg Cipro pills

At least two intramuscular shots of Levaquin immediately before the procedures.

I asked a nurse how much was in the syringe, a long needle, similar to the needle used for Cortisone injections in my shoulder is used. She just said that it is a "humongous amount".

10 X 500 mg Levaquin pills.

I reported the adverse reaction to my uro the following August as my chiropractor told me to.

For the biopsies after I reported the adverse reaction--

The first post ablation biopsy, six, 500 mg Cipro and the shot of Levaquin.

The second post ablation biopsy--I was not prescribed any Cipro. I said I didn't want a biopsy. He insisted I should have a biopsy. I expressed my fears of the fluoros. I was told only Levaquin would be used. That was supposed to make it okay? I relented. No cancer was found in 20 cores but I lost my left shoulder two months later and progress with my back and right shoulder regressed.

Total over the years--

24 X 500 mg Cipros

Four, maybe five intramuscular shots of Levaquin

At least 10 X 500 mg Levaquin pills.

Of that total after the first adverse reaction--

One prescription 6 X 500 mg Cipro and an intramuscular shot of Levaquin--for first post ablation biopsy

One intramuscular shot of Levaquin--for second post ablation biopsy

Currumpaw

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GeorgeGlass in reply toCurrumpaw

Wow, that's a lot of flouroquin:( Is there anything that you could do after the injuries to strengthen the ligaments and tendons? Is there anything I should do now that I had the 10 Levaquin pills to help prevent something tearing or exploding?

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Currumpaw in reply toGeorgeGlass

Hey GeorgeGlass!

I might have been able to heal and rebuild after I notified him when the first shoulder went bad as diagnosed by a chiropractor but he gave me a biopsy 4 months later and 6 Cipro and another shot of Levaquin. Two years after that I resisted another biopsy partly because of the fluoro damage. He said that he wouldn't use Cipro, just Levaquin as if that would be okay. Turns out it wasn't. The fluoros have been used on to may times, Should have stopped when I reported the adverse reaction.

I did quite a bit of therapy, ultrasound, I even own my own functional trainer. I was going to start a personal training business.

You will just have to wait and see. Old injuries that have been healed for years may come back. You might get the Achilles tendon rupture. If I were you I'd print out the warnings and if your Doc wants to prescribe any fluoros ask him why? Ask him if he knows that the number of aortic aneurysms double when fluoros are taken. Some people lose their vision. The fluoros are not a drug to take lightly.

Best of luck,

Currumpaw

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the Hippocratic oath says, do no damage but many doctors do the opposite. Any idea if the aortic aneurism threat is long term increased risk or only while you are taking the tablets?

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Hey GeorgeGlass!

The fluoros seem to have weakened or "eaten" the tissues that my body made in repairing my injuries. A ligament rip for example, would show scar tissue in a medical image and so on. It is for whatever reason, more susceptible to fluoro damage. I have never had any abdominal problems my abs were always a couple inches thick. I must have ripped some abdominal tissue at some time. Now, when doing sit ups, a section of my abdominals distend and raise up at least a half an inch above the rest of my abdomen!

I cannot comment with any dat to support my beliefs other than what has happened to me. The chiropractor, in her 60's, has decades of experience. She knew I had an ablation when I went to her to see if anything could be done for my shoulder that shredded and asked if I had been given Cipro. She told me to call my uro and report the adverse reaction which I did. I started ultrasound at her office that day.

This is only my belief. I would not trust any timeline that a doctor or the FDA gives. It could be an individual thing but the old injuries that came back on me came later. You have to realize that I had drugs in July, September and twice in October of the year I was diagnosed and had the ablation. I had a triceps "soreness" in the spring and an old hip injury in late spring become troublesome and worked around them. When it was just my warm up weight, just supporting it, that shredded my shoulder in August--that was 10 months after the last fluoros. Maybe having the fluoros continually in my body--? Not even getting a chance to heal and getting dosed again for a biopsy 4 months later???

The FDA has been issuing stronger warnings about the fluoroquinolones suggesting that they should be reserved for use when nothing else works.

Currumpaw

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What was the ablation for?

What was the purpose of the ultrasound from the urologist?

So, there is nothing to do to strengthen the ligaments and tendons after taking the flouroquins?

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Thanks Richard, I'm not looking at the therapies for cancer treatment. I'm looking at treatments for infections. I've found studies published or conducted by the NIH in the U.S. These therapies can save people from dying of sepsis. The documentation on Vitamin C combined with hydrocortisone and thiamin are extraordinary. And ozone therapy at dosages used at clinics shows 4 people out of 6 million died in German studies. I was looking for negative reviews from people saying that it made me feel sick or dizzy etc and there were none of those. I'm sure some have side effects but I discern that it's very low as long as the clinic is performing the IVs in a sanitary manner and mixing properly. That's why it's important to find a clinic with a certified doctor. Oh, Robert Rowen videos showed study results that show a significant life saving effect of combining or pretreating with ozone therapy before taking antibiotics. One their own, most the mice died. Similar outcomes have occurred with humans. Recently a person with a prosthetic hip had a very bad infection and instead of removing the hip, they combined ozone therapy with antibiotics and killed the infection. That's the first time this has ever been done without having to remove the hip. I agree with you to be careful but I really dont think the doctors are being careful when they keep firing antibiotics at me in rapid succession and never even set a follow-up appointment at the end of the cycle to see if it worked or not. Three hospitals in America are having great success with the Vitamin C treatment for people with Covid -19. What I've seen from my reading looks pretty legit. I've been doing tons of research and analysis over the past 30 years so I try to look at things without a bias. That's why I'm asking this community for first or 2nd hand knowledge. One the websites, 98% of the critics are from people who don't know anyone who have tried these treatments.

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That sucks. I too have a low immunity to infections. If I could I’d be doing c weekly . Haven’t yet checked our new small towns nat dr scene. Take care

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Hey GeorgeGlass!

Levaquin?? Really?? The fluoroquinolones are deadly drugs. Copy the entire two lines.

Levaquin (levofloxacin) Safety Alerts, Recalls & Warnings ...

drugs.com/fda-alerts/1457-8...

Stay away from the fluoroquinolones. When with four other men I mentioned the dangers of adverse reactions from the fluoroquinolones. Amazingly three of us five had adverse reactions to the fluoros and one gentleman had an aortic aneurysm! Those of us with this cancer are usually older. Studies show that the incidence of aortic aneurysms double with the use fluoros. Do you think that our doctors just figure that --that happens when they get older-- and didn't link the fluoros to the higher aortic aneurysm incidence? Uh huh!

Alternative drugs that can be used for biopsies to prevent sepsis are Rocephin and Cefdinir.

I have been getting intravenous C infusions since June of 2016. I have never had discomfort in any way but find that the large infusions are almost like a painkiller for whatever. People are different. My body has an affinity for IV C. The vitamin C molecule is so similar to the sugar molecule that one's C level is measured using diabetic test strips. If you are getting conventional treatment keep all your doctors advised as to the treatments, medications and supplements you have so as not to cause harm.

I did LIVE O2 sessions as well for several years. I could have bought the LifeFitness Cycle and the LIVE O2 equipment for $750 when the doc decided to go with a hyperbaric system. It was my mistake to let it go!

Currumpaw

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GeorgeGlass in reply toCurrumpaw

I'll print your comments and save for future use. The worst part is most doctors nowadays are rushing through appointments in less than 15 minutes. I don't think they even put an thought into side effects or interactions, let alone read about integrative medicine like ozone and C. It's ridiculous. I think America has been brainwashed to push back against naturopathic medicine just like political conspiracies, which happen all the time but nobody wants to admit they happen. We need a system that weighs the pros and cons of naturopathic and western med but that rarely happens, especially when naturopathic isn't taught to doctors and the appointments are 15 minutes long, and I have a frickin mask and glasses on which make it hard to get my points across to the doctor. OK, I'm venting lol

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Hey GeorgeGlass!

The IV C and ozone are not to be considered cures but complementary to your conventional treatment. I have used the C as more of a means of prevention now than anything else.

If Ayurvedic medicine cured cancer chemo, surgery and radiation would never have been needed. Mostly it is the same for the other things.

My opinion--not cures--but--helpful in preventing or extending the time to recurrence.

Of course your diet has much to do with remaining cancer free.

Currumpaw

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That's the way I look at it too but I'm not even interested in the cancer piece right now. I'm just trying to solve this 3 month illness first. Thanks for your great insight!

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I'll let you know how my treatments go at integrative medicine.

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I WENT TO GERMANY AND GOT A WEEK OF VIT C AND OZONE AND HYPERTHERMIA BUT I DONT THINK IT REALLY WORKED .. BUT IT DID FOR OTHERS THERE.. IF I WENT FOR A LONGER PERIOD MAYBE...……….. BUT MY PSA WENT DOWN MOSTLY FROM FINESTERIDE..... THEY ALSO PRESCRIBED... AND AS SOON AS I STOPPED TAKING IT MY PSA STARTED TO CLIMB... SO NOW IM TRYING FENBENADOLE (SEE UTUBE) .. THEN ILL GET ANOTHER TEST AND A 3T MRI.. THIS SUMMER.. IVE BEEN AVOIDING INVASIVE BIOPSYS..

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Do a search here in H.U. for "Ozone Therapy" "VItamin C IV" and you'll get a lot of hits.....

I just did........

Good LucK, Good Health and Good Humor.

j-o-h-n Monday 04/13/2020 6:53 PM DST

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It's usually a good idea at least to run any new treatment ideas past one's medical doctor, and ponder why things that have "been around" waiting for proof for a such long time still do not appear in things like the U.S. National Comprehensive Cancer Network (NCCN) Guidelines for Prostate Cancer. Some of us here have known men who rejected virtually all FDA-approved treatments in lieu of financially toxic "alternative" stuff, ... and who probably died way too soon as a result. Whatever the individual's choice ..... "eyes wide open".

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My medical doctors dont have any knowledge of these treatments. That why I always laugh when they say on tv commercials to ask your doctor. I've asked doctors about 100 questions the past couple years, one of the medical oncologists didn't even know what Metformin was, eyes rolling. Many medical doctors put people in the grave thousands of times a day and the news never mentions it. Plus, like I said in my question, I'm not using these treatments for cancer.

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Georgeglass, try Oregano oil. I took 450 mg, twice a day. Don't know what I had but it worked for me. I'm not a guy. My hubby has had pc, diagnosed in 2002 but he was told he had it awhile before then. Stay away from levaquin and other fluoroquins unless you are on your death bed. I am permanently disabled from fluoroquinolones. That is the class of drugs that Levaquin is from. Wish you well. PS, the oregano oil does not have to be an expensive brand. Organo oil is an antiviral, an antibiotic, an anti fungal and an anti something else.

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I've learned more about flouroquins in this thread than I have about C and ozone lol. I'm very sorry to hear about your tragedy with flouroquins. Do you mind me asking what they did to you? Holy cow. I'm now wondering if something bad could happen to me after the fact from using the Levaquin.

I do have Oil of Oregano tabs along with a hundred other supplements but nothing has helped this illness/infection or whatever it is.

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swtpea3505 in reply toGeorgeGlass

George class, try at least 450 mg of oregano oil. Take it twice a day and see if that helps. With Fluoroquinolones, I'm one of the ones where it gradually degraded my health so for years I didn't know what was wrong with me, even though I was seeing drs to try to figure it all out. It started with having sharp, sudden pains in the bottom of my feet when I'd be walking at my job. I was a school custodian so that was bothersome. My feet started being hurendously painfull, I snapped a tendon in my one knee. A year later the other knee tendon snapped. I started getting really weird severe leg cramps in the inner part of my thigh that would start an hour after I'd fall asleep and many times it was a constant feeling of them wanting to cramp so the anxiety from that alone was unending. I had had a car accident two years before this cramping began so I always figured it was from that. This cramping started around 1998 but it was only occasional for a few years. The severe knee swelling happened about 2001. My knees actually looked like two bowling balls and very painfull. 2004 as I was just walking at work, the muscle in the back of my calf let out a sharp pain but luckily that cleared up in a short amout of time. Extreme fatigue set in out of nowhere. I had a nasty boss so I figured it was just stress. I did get hypothryoidism that year and was put on meds for it. I'd get real bad itchyness under my skin all over. That lasted a couple months and seemed to go away. Back then after I'd eat my heart rate seemed to be much higher than normal. I was noticig all of these things, little by little but couldnt attribute them to anything so I figured it must be all from my thryoid. By 2005 severe neuropathy set in in my feet along with the severe pains in them and in my knees and in my lower back. I didn't know it was neuropathy at the time, not until years later. My legs would get very painful and stiff, so bad that when I'd try to get into my bed it was extremely painfull. Extremely painfull to get in or out of my bed, extremely painfull to try to stand up and each step that I took was horrible painfull. I pulled a ligament in my lower back just trying to rollover to get out of bed. All kinds of weird strange things happening that made no sense at all. I worked the graveyard shift and pretty much worked by myself so I hid my health problems as much as possible in order to keep my job. I very rarely ever took off. I noticed one day just pushing my foot on the gas pedal of my truck, only lightly was getting to be very painfull. So bad that my son had to put a lighter return spring on the carbeurator linkage to ease the pressure some on my knee. After the half hour drive home, I'd have to inch myself out of my truck and stand there till I was able to walk up to my house. I didn't want my neighbors to notice how I was walking. Before all of this I was used to standing all day and doing work at home all the time too, so this was way out of character for me. I told my dr one day that there is something going on inside of my body but all I got was a weird stare. Another time when I went to my dr about my knees, she told me that I needed to exercise more. Yet another time I told her that there was something wrong with my legs. Another time I told the guy dr that when I was sleeping, I was dreaming all the time that I was in pain so I couldnt sleep well. I'd wake up and realize that it wasnt a dream, my knees were killing me. I'd get burning pain in my legs and in my feet and along my spinal cord in certain places. I was popping disks in my back. By Nov of 2010, getting into my car at work, a tendon in the back of my one thigh popped. I drove myself home but I was never able to go back after that. As it was, I had an appointment lined up for the next day at a neurologist. He did a radio frequency on my back that in time lessened some of the pain in my thigh and it did lessen the cramping, but it took forever. This was weird because with whatever he did, when the pain would start, my leg would go numb till the pain subsided. I'd get what I called vibrations inside of my body. This scared the living daylights out of me and put me in a very dark place for a long long time. I 'd tell the neurologist this and he had no idea of what I meant. I guess they were actually tremmors. So I've been on permanent disability since the end of 2010. Searching the web on and off I finally found out about Fluoroquinolone toxicity. By this time I wasnt able to do anything. Could barely get out of a chair with out exterme pain and exhaustion. Could barely walk around in my little house. I wasnt able to cut my grass anymore, even with a small riding mower. When I'd walk occasionally I'd feel like my feet were slipping on water, or ice. I was loosing the sensation in the bottom of my feet which made it dangerous to walk. Two steps into my house is very difficult to do and even then I have to grab onto the frame of the door onboth sides to pull myself into the house or hold on to back myself out of my house toget down the two steps. I finally asked God, way back in 2015, that if I was supposed to stay alive, to please give me a way to lessen some of my pain. I researched and researched and tried serrapeptase. After three years of taking that, I was slowly getting rid of some of the pain and stiffness. Through my research I found a group that put a name to it. Fluoroquinolone toxicity. I have nerve damage through out my body from this. I have major problems with my muscles, especially in my legs and in my feet. I'd get sharp stabbing pains in my eyes, light sensitivity, extreme sensitivity in my ears. I'd actually used to feel something moving around inside of my body which I just tried ot to think about. I always get low grade fevers, so i read up on and began taking oregano oil. After awhile I realized that I hadnt gotten the crawling feeling anymore. Something about the serrapeptase and the oregano oil seemed to stop that. At least for awhile. About two years ago I started taking ALA, which is alpha lipoic acid. In a 600 mg dose, within I'd say about two weeks I started getting the feeling back into the bottom of my feet. It'simportant to research this because if one has merqury in there system, and I do, it can draw the merqury from our tissues and drop in anywhere else in the body, (if not taken a few times a day) and can cause a stroke or pulmonary embolism, but in the shape that I was in at the time, anything that helped me in any way was a God send. Fluoroquinolone toxicity is a gift that keeps on giving... but not in a good way. I developed Tinnitis since then and ocasionally vertigo. Let me suggest some things that has helped me. 12 mg of astaxanthin, helps for some pain but I take it occasionally for my eyesight. Pycnogenol is also good for clearing the vision. The ALA in a 600 mg dose helps me to manage nerve pain and pain in general and also helped me to walk better, just in and around my house. There is so much more that I could add but this is only some of the damages that I have from fluoroquinolones. The affects of taking these drugs is cumulative, so a person may be ok one time and be blasted by one pill. Some people have severe psycological issues from these drugs. I've noticed that where ever a person was the strongest in their body and or mind, it seems to me that that is where their damage is the worse. I hope that this can help someone. Be well everyone.

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GeorgeGlass in reply toswtpea3505

wow, that's crazy, everything that you went through and are going through. How many of the floroquin tablets did you take over the years/before all your problems? That's insane and it sounds very common. Have you tried the Vitamin C IV, ozone therapy or chelation at all to strengthen the immune system and remove toxins from the body?

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swtpea3505 in reply toGeorgeGlass

Hi GeorgeGlass. I was never into taking a lot of meds until about 2004. In 1998 I went to the hospital to be checked because I was cleaning in a lab classroom and the boss was rushing us to get done. I wound up splashing the dirty mopwater in . That was in the days of the Aids epidemic so I asked to get checked out. The Hospital flushed my eyes out but I don't remember then giving me anything for it. That was March of 98. I was in good physical shape when this happened but within a year is when problems started or maybe even a year earlier. Thats why I thought it was origionally from a car accident.

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GeorgeGlass, I only had IV C one time during an office visit for something else back in 2008. At the time I was getting Prolotherapy injections all over my body for cronic pain. This was my last ditch effort to try to keep working but I had to stop when my credit card hit close to the limit. The prolotherapy treatment did help my neck and it did help with my lower back and with my legs but it didn't last. Checking my records I had Cipro a few times, levaquin once, moxifloxacin once or twice and olfloxacin, the ear and eye drops once. I had a procedure in a hospital in 98 but was not able to get records from that. That may have been what initially started it. There are many facebook groups about those damaged by Fluoroquinolones. Many people get hit with only one or two pills, then there are others like me where it is a gradual deterioration that is not connected to anything.

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GeorgeGlass in reply toswtpea3505

Thanks for your story. In going to try the ozone and vitamin c therapies and I'll let you know how it goes. Maybe we can find some relief.

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GeorgeGlass in reply toswtpea3505

Did I ever ask you if you tried ozone therapy and cell cleanse at a funtional medicine doctor's practice?

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GeorgeGlass, yes you did ask me if I tried ozone therapy but no I haven't tried neither one.

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I've been getting Live O2 on the bicycle for a few weeks and several IVs and I'm improving a lot so far. Building the immune system back up after years of toxic attacks from military toxins, high dose radiation and antibiotics.

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vitamin c for Chinese Virus

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Oregano oil too George glass, for any type of nfectio. Vit A, C, D3, B-12 and iodine, if low.

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OK thanks a lot!

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Update: After two weeks of therapy - I've been getting Live O2 on the bicycle for a few weeks and several IVs and I'm improving a lot so far. Building the immune system back up after years of toxic attacks from military toxins, high dose radiation and antibiotics.

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Hi George,

My husband has had many IVC treatments and ozone treatments. We never saw they made a difference with the prostate cancer, but they both seem to help with fatigue and we believe the IVC shortens the duration and severity of any cold/flu.

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that's good. Ya, Im not doing it for cancer. I'm doing it for some sort of illness Ive had since January that caused chest pain, headaches, fatigue. I was given prednisone, augmentin, then a very dangerous antibiotic caused Levaquin, for which I am trying to reverse the damage from that and try to clear it from my body/mitochondria. I'm glad it helped you feel better/boost your immune system.

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GeorgeGlass, Probiotcs is what Floxies suggest to help clear some of the damage of Fluoroquinolones from the body. Extra magnesium can't hurt either. Supposedly fluoroquinolones deplete our stores of magnesium.

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I'm supplanting with magnesium, to include oral and IVs. I'm taking 6 different kinds of probiotics now, as well as other supplements. I'm planning on doing the ozone and NAD IVs too, which some say help the reverse or partial minimizing of the effects. And I told me Doctor never to prescribe this anymore unless it's an emergency, and not to heart disease patients etc.

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I do vitamin c 75 grams plus msm plus the ozone blood treatment

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I am doing 2-3 permonth. First 75 grams of C, then they take out about a pint of blood out, inject ozone into it. It turns purple from normal deep red, then it goes back into my system.

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Is the ozone and vitamin C combined? How much do they charge for the ozone? Does the ozone affect your psa or cancer scan results?

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75 g of C then they draw a pint of blood and inject with Ozone

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What does it do for you TEB?

George, my husband does IV vitamin c twice weekly. He always feels better after his C infusion. If we could afford it, he would do three times per week, but it’s pricey.

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How much do they charge? What is the amount of vitamin C per iv?

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George in each infusion 75 grams. We started with 50 and now up to 75. Price has gone up from 225.00 to 250. each infusion

George, I read your post a few times. It sounds like you also need probiotics. Take them in the morning on an empty stomach an hour before food. Order integrative Therapeutics PRO-BIOME a probiotic blend. 50B CFU. George, you need to start drinking plain green tea, no sugar, at least 4 glasses per day. Order Amazing Herbs Black seed oil, 100% pure cold pressed black cumin seed oil. Take 1 teaspoon twice a day. The infusions will help you but make sure you get C only in your infusion , no other vitamins added or it becomes a feeder of cancer not fighter.

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Thanks Mio, I do most of that stuff already. I’ll look into the probiotics you recommended.

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