I was reading about Vitamin C and how it can reverse all kinds of cancer. The process is taking high doses of the vitamin and taking it with a IV, Has anybody here heard of this kind of therapy?
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It doesn't work for prostate cancer as a monotherapy:
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articl...
But there is a clinical trial for using it along with docetaxel:
clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show...
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I think that trial has much hope.
Looks like interesting trial, but so far no results posted... Trials a long way from North Idaho.
Yes I did 50 grams of c IV’s bi-weekly for 18 months while undergoing imrt Lupron and tak 700. Costly but I think it helped my troubled urology shed the pc tumors . My personal experience only. I’ve been under the dammed radar over five years. Good luck !
cesces• in reply to
Just to confirm, your radiation oncologist was on board with mixing high dose vitamin c and imrt radiation therapy?
Yes, I did 50 grams bi-weekly for 18 months .
I did 200g four days a week for about 9 months. A bit of placebo effect but nothing else. Tough regime. Didn't get any colds though.
This is a paper on oral vitamin C
tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10....
Also look at this
tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10....
The first paper shows that you can reach the vitamin C level required in the second paper. I do this protocol for 5 days begining with 5g vitamin C and then 1-2 gram per hour when I am awake. Does it work? Who knows. But it's cheap... And use sodium ascorbate. Ascorbic acid will probably dissolve your teeth lol.
"And use sodium ascorbate. Ascorbic acid will probably dissolve your teeth lol."
Is that the non-chewable version?
Suck it and see.... Lol. Actually I buy the ascorbate by the kg and use drug dealer scales to weigh out what I need. Easy enough and allows me to think I'm doing something positive. Cheers
I do the same and for the same reason.
When we were in Germany in August for treatment to help support ADT (with the approval of our MO at MSK), the doctors there said that for many prostate cancer patients IV Vitamin C is enough on its own to kill cancer. They looked at my husband and said, "Not you, though. Yours is a severe case." (Diagnosed May 2020, PSA 209, extensive bone mets, Gleason 9) But of course, there was no harm in adding Vitamin C to the regime. I'm sure it has helped him respond exceptionally well to Lupron + Zytiga (way better than our MO expected at the beginning). We're at 0.25 PSA now, with CT scans and MRIs showing that everything has resolved but for a 2.3cm residual tumor in the prostate. Alkaline phosphotase is at 49, down from somewhere in the 400s I think?
• in reply tomarchinda
I doubt it had any involvement with the response. Were the IV treatments free? If no, then the Dr's just separated you from your money IMO.
I'm G9, pT3N1M0 after RP and my psa <0.01. I am also on ADT + Zytiga. Dramatic responses on ADT and Zytiga are very common.
dhccpa• in reply to
How long have you been on ADT and Zytiga now? No metastases?
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ADT will be 2 years in July and Zytiga I started in Nov 2019
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Yes..M0 according to bone scan and CT with contrast.
marchinda• in reply to
If you didn't have metastases then you're probably going to respond very well to ADT. However, having read many profiles here and seen cases like my husbands, it seems to me that most others with Gleason 9, PSA 209 and extensive bone mets have rarely responded as well as he has to ADT. Our MO, who was skeptical about going to Germany at first, has said that she feels our dietary changes and the treatments (not just IV Vitamin C) we received in Germany have contributed to this exceptional response. It has been so good that we are radiating the prostate next month (something that she said they've only done for cases like my husband's in the very rare instance that ADT has cleared everything but the tumor in the prostate).
• in reply tomarchinda
If it makes you feel it did something then okay but there have been some small clinical trials on IV C injections and the results were no impact on pca.
Read VWtwinsmamas post from 3 years ago...her husband psa declined from 980 to 4.24 after 3 months on ADT + Zytiga..these types of responses are not that uncommon.
Regardless. Its great your husband is doing well and I hope that trend continues.
Take care.
My husband has been doing lipasomel Vit C for years and started 2x week IV vitamin C about 6 months ago ($1500/mo)
He has nueroendocrine driven castrate resistant BRCA2 aggressive version and his labs & inflammation markers have never looked better! Of course he uses tons of other things too! It’s not a stand alone treatment.
Does it work
It has always seemed to me that if you want to kill cancer cells, you don't want to load up on antioxidants.
I take about 2g of but c per day because, why not. Lol
But if you are doing radiation treatment I would be dubious about maintaining high levels of vit c during treatment.
Though very interesting and counterintuitive about the trial Tall Allen mentions.
I will be exceedingly interested in seeing the results.
Friend you are confused.....when using large doses of Vitamin C its become oxidative medicine! The large large doses do not act as anti-oxidant!!!!!
To be brief, during during my six month chemotherapy with hormone therapy clinical trial in 2004, I also took several drugs that in research were known to have cancer killing attributes when combined with other drugs. One such drug was 1000 mg of vitamin C daily. By cancer killing attributes, I mean those items that weaken cell structure and aids in cell apoptosis. This was under the care and guidance of my research medical oncologist, Dr Robert Amato.
I would never recommend vitamin C as a mono therapy or taken without the guidance of a MO who researched or studied. Did it work? In my unskilled mind, yes in combinations with other drugs.
Dr. Amato gave world wide lectures and his work is published. There is access of summations freely available or in depth under a pay screen. I have never paid for his work product; only read what is readily available and my conversations with him over a 14-15 year period. I have never had to use any of the “silver bullets” written about in this group. They were always in the hip pocket available if needed. There are several people in this group that are knowledge about these amazing drugs developed over the past 17 years, I am not one of them.
My last comment. My results in the treatment of metastatic prostate cancer were strictly as a result from a person in academia and research; and not the medical oncologist community at large. I was most fortunate to be a human guinea pig in the world of lab mice.
Good luck.
Gourd Dancer
We used high dose Vitamin C IV from PharmaLife LaboratoriesThey posted on their blog an estimated treatment that the doctor used at the clinic too
''Once the IV Vitamin C doses are increased to the 75000-100,000mg range (75-100grams), they have been shown to kill cancer cells. In addition these doses will kill viruses, and mold toxins.
How to use:
Week 1: 1 x 10 g (1 iv bottle) infusion per day, 3 times per week
Week 2: 1 x 20 g (2 iv bottles) infusion per day, 3 times per week
Week 3: 1 x 40 g (4 iv bottles) infusion per day, 3 times per week
Week 4: 1 x 60 g (6 iv bottles) infusion per day, 3 times per week
Week 5: 1 x 80 g (8 iv bottles) infusion per day, 3 times per week
Week 6: 1 x 100 g (10 iv bottles) infusion per day, 3 times per week.
Treatment will be continued with maximum dose 100 grams (10 iv bottles) for each session at least one month.'' Source: vitamincvial.blogspot.com
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