No vegetables plan

[Manmurphy]

Does anyone have suggestions for a meal plan to lose weight that doesn't contain vegetables as I cannot stomach eating the majority of them and I have tried

Thanks

[TheAwfulToad Visitor]

There have been two or three people here who "can't eat vegetables", but I honestly think this is a bit unlikely. There are a lot of different vegetables, and they all have different tastes and textures. I can understand someone not liking (say) cabbage, or avocado, but if you literally can't eat all vegetables, I'd suspect that somebody, somewhere in your past has messed up your head, and it would be worth finding out (a) what happened and (b) how you can fix it.

It's possible to live a healthy life without vegetables, but unless you enjoy eating (say) raw liver, it's not going to happen for you. A limited diet of animal products and starch is pretty much guaranteed to be bad news. That's not me being unhelpful and mean: it's just biology.

[Annekelly58 in reply to TheAwfulToad]

There's a big difference between not liking to eat vegetables and not being able to eat them. I'm extremely allergic to uncooked vegetable protein so a stick of celery or a strawberry puts me in hospital. I understand your sentiments though. Rather like trying a different brand of a product...it won't taste the same, but could still be nice. It's worth trying lots of different veg, in different ways, to see if you like any. Tastes change as we get older.

[TheAwfulToad Visitor in reply to Annekelly58]

I was under the impression that the OP simply doesn't like vegetables, but it's funny you should mention this. I was just about to post a review of The Plant Paradox (Stephen Gundry) in which he asserts that many people are allergic to the defensive chemicals that plants synthesize to protect themselves. The book is a bit of a bizarre mishmash of nutritionism BS and made-up nonsense, but there's also a thread of well-established scientific fact, and it's hard to dismiss his clinical observations (unless he's lying about them, of course). More later.

[Annekelly58 in reply to TheAwfulToad]

Interesting. I just carry an EpiPen to ward off disaster. I also can't touch plants in a garden centre for example, but that just causes rashes. I did read that the smell of cut grass is a trigger for lawns to have a growing spurt. Nature is unfathomable.

[Tiggerr]

Hi Manmurphy and welcome

I see TAT has already replied and I don't think anyone is likely to be contradictory.

I wouldn't say I didn't eat veg before I came here but of the veg I ate, I didn't enjoy most of it. However, I've found lots of ways of cooking them that make them exciting and enjoyable to me. Just some of my faves now, off the top of my head...

At a basic level cauliflower and broccoli can be baked in cheese.

Veg roasted in a good oil (eg. carrots, onions, peppers, maybe some garlic, will taste pretty sweet)

Diced butternut squash, roasted with spices (cumin, fennel, chilli) maybe topped with feta cheese

Slices of aubergine, topped with a tomato, onion & garlic sauce with Parmesan cheese melted on top

I tried this next one two days ago and it's going to become one of my go to veg dishes...

Onion, chopped and fried then add turmeric, some cinnamon, cardamom pods, cumin and mustard seeds (spice selection can be changed). Finally, whizz up cauli in a food processor and add to pan and fry. Turned out to be an awesome side for pretty much anything

I guess I'm trying to say that having veg, as an addition to whatever you're eating, can be as varied as your imagination and it doesn't have to have the taste and texture of the veg we've been fed in the past.

[TheAwfulToad Visitor in reply to Tiggerr]

Excellent point - us Brits aren't exactly renowned for our culinary skills where veg are concerned! "Kill it .. kill it with fire" seems to be the general approach, but of course there are many ways to make vegetables taste good.

[BridgeGirl Administrator 2 stone in reply to Tiggerr]

I love the sound of that spice mix! But I do enjoy my cauliflower whole - well, whole and cut up rather than whizzed. I could try that as a topping and roast it. Or maybe I'll try cauliflower rice again, with this addition.

[Tiggerr in reply to BridgeGirl]

I'd liken it in texture to a fine grain, slightly mushy couscous.

[Hidden]

I agree try to mash them in mashed potatoes like cauliflower cook it purée it put in mixed mash potatoes. Make a meat loaf buy cooked spinach chop put up put in microwave throw in the mixture. Meatballs too. Eat protein a few times a day and don’t eat sugar. Only in fruit. It’s hidden in so many things. I gave up sugar in 2010 I lost 30 lbs and exercising eating clean. Like fast. I was very dedicated.

[Tiggerr in reply to Hidden]

Congrats on your weight loss guitara

[Hidden]

If you are determined not to eat vegetables, you don’t need a meal plan. Just don’t eat them. As you are doing now. Your overall health can only be damaged by not eating vegetables as others have told you here though.

[lucigret]

Hello and welcome to the forum Manmurphy

I don't really have much to add to what has already been said, I would have replied in a similar way as Tiggerr. Vegetables don't have to be boiled to death, there are so many ways of cooking them that make them very palatable and if all else fails, boil and pulp and add to bolognaise, curry sauces, lasagne anything really tasty that disguises their taste. You will still benefit from eating them this way. I wasn't a lover of cabbage, but now I cook it in butter and it has become a favourite. You won't know unless you try, so give it a go and then come back and tell us how you get on

If you haven't already, please take the time to read the Welcome Newbie post, this will help you to navigate the forum, which is best done using the full website and not the app.

Please also take a look at all of the Challenges, Clubs and Events that we have, to help to keep you motivated and engaged with the forum.

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The above link will take you to all the information you need. Participation is key to success and I would recommend that you at least join the Daily Diary and a Weigh In day of your choice.

Wishing you the best of luck in your weight loss journey and looking forward to seeing you around the forum

[Emzls]

You could have soups that contain vegetables or just add small pieces of vegetables in the foods you like, I’m very similar with fruits

[lucigret in reply to Emzls]

Good morning Emzls and welcome to the forum

If you haven't already, please take the time to read the Welcome Newbie post, this will help you to navigate the forum, which is best done using the full website and not the app.

Please also take a look at all of the Challenges, Clubs and Events that we have, to help to keep you motivated and engaged with the forum.

healthunlocked.com/nhsweigh...

The above link will take you to all the information you need. Participation is key to success and I would recommend that you at least join the Daily Diary and a Weigh In day of your choice.

Wishing you the best of luck in your weight loss journey and looking forward to seeing you around the forum

[SofaJockey]

I could have written your post (7 months ago and 5 stone heavier). I still detest 'salad'. But look hard and there will likely be 'some' vegetables you prefer.

For me, bell peppers, mushrooms, and sweetcorn were the starter.

Over the months I expanded to avocado, courgette, carrots.

I still don't enjoy what I would classify as 'rabbit food' so I eat the veggies I do enjoy.

[Climb007]

Hi Manmurphy, have you tried blending the veg to a liquid or pulp? I found that helped me

[Tp36]

I am on a low carb diet and most vegetables are too high carb for me to eat !

[Nomash in reply to Tp36]

Really? I'm on a low carb diet too and eat cauliflower, broccoli, greens, err cauliflower, courgette, cauliflower, avacado, (fruit!) did I say cauliflower, err, err, yeah I get your point! Oo leaks. And cauliflower!

[Tp36 in reply to Nomash]

Haha quite, I am running out of ideas on how to cook cauliflower!

[BridgeGirl Administrator 2 stone in reply to Tp36]

Hello, Tp36, and welcome to the weight loss forum

How low carb are you aiming? To Nomash's list I'd add spinach, sprouts, the numerous range of lettuces, red cabbage, white cabbage, savoy cabbage, kale, salad stuff like rocket and cress, aubergine, tomatoes, peppers, asparagus - all less than 5 gms of carbs per 100gms.

You might like to join our Daily Diary where members share their meal plans: you'll find plenty of low carb eaters there and no shortage of veg You'll find the Diary, weekly weigh-in and the rest of our activities in Pinned Posts healthunlocked.com/nhsweigh...

We've found that active participation can be a great boost so I hope we'll see you out and about, around the forum

I also recommend joining the LCHF forum, if you haven't already - great information and discussions there healthunlocked.com/lchf-diet

[Tp36 in reply to BridgeGirl]

Hi, thanks for the welcome.

I aim at under 20g of carbs but anything under 30g is still good. In 2 months I have lost inches and my shape has changed but the scales won’t budge!

I picked up a helpful aid being a piece of string! Every week I mark on the string my ever decreasing waist so I have something visual to keep me going.

[BridgeGirl Administrator 2 stone in reply to Tp36]

It's good to see those other measures of progress

Do you plan to stay at that level of carbs? I know it's useful for an induction period but it is pretty restrictive longer term

[Manmurphy]

Thanks all to all the advice I think I'm going to try the blend to a soup route and see how this goes

[Nomash in reply to Manmurphy]

If your doing lchf you can add in cheese, Stilton is good, and cream and garlic! 🧀🧀😋😋

[lucigret in reply to Manmurphy]

Some great recipes for soup on DietDoctor

[Craftyperson]

I have a fructose intolerance so some fruit and veg out of bounds but wouldn't go without veg completely they have do many nutrients in them we need eg magnesium. Just try eating it differently. There's nothing worse than overcooked veg so try it a bit Al dente, in soups, curries or roasted for example.

[BridgeGirl Administrator 2 stone]

Fair enough. When it comes to cheating, the only one you cheat is yourself

[TheAwfulToad Visitor]

There's nothing really wrong with staying "keto" if you find that gets your head in the right place, but make sure you're not being "strict" with calories. A lot of people coming from a calorie-counting position just can't get out of the mindset, but unless you hand back control to your own appetite, you may well remain in "starvation mode", where your body holds onto bodyfat as a self-preservation mechanism.

Eat until you're full. If you get hungry, eat more. Your body absolutely will not discard fat if its energy needs are not being met.

To begin with it feels a bit like leaping off a tall building and hoping the fire brigade will catch you at the bottom, but put the scales away, don't get too worried about counting things (including carbs - up to 50g/day is fine for almost everyone) and you will land safely!

[TM44]

I’m not a lover of fruit, veg or salad but I’ve made changes over the years to incorporate them into my diet just a little. I doubt I eat enough but I eat more than I did for decades! Soup is one way I can eat veg. Only limited flavours but it’s a way of getting some veg in at least. I use Passata as a base for spag bol, pasta sauces such as Arrrabbiatia and curry, I blend other veg into that - onion, mushroom, garlic, spinach etc before adding it to the meat. I blend carrots and onions etc into gravy and add lean steak mince and make it into a cottage pie with a sweet potatoes/potato mashed together for the topping with a sprinkle of cheese. Salad I can eat if I chop everything really tiny (really tiny!) and add a teaspoon of salad dressing. I have to eat it with something (as in, in the same mouthful as something else) and I don’t eat to much at a time, but even a few mouthfuls to start off with is better than not eating it at all. There’s not much I can do with fruit. I eat bananas, grapes, pineapple, melon and very ripe pears but if I have something that’s not ripe enough or over ripe it puts me off trying that fruit again for a while. Tinned fruit is ok.