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Hello this is my first post here so I apologise if I do anything wrong. I am currently 10 weeks pregnant and on 50mg levothyroxine 5x a week and 75mg 2 times a week.

I was prescribed this for subclinical hypothyroidism by my IVF clinic.

Now I'm 10 weeks pregnant and with the NHS. I didn't realise that biotin could mess up thyroid function tests and did not stop my pregnancy supplement before my blood test at my booking appointment.

When I rang the midwife to ask to redo the test she said she will not test me again for another 18 weeks as my levels are in the normal range and everyone else takes multivitamins before the tests so it's fine.

If the test results I have are valid then I am indeed well within in the normal range and wouldn't be causing a fuss, but my understanding was that the biotin made the results invalid?

Also I feel like the results might indicate that I might need to decrease my dose a bit since the tsh level has dropped from 4.8 to 0.8 in a month and the free T4 levels are relatively high at 16.4 which seems to be out of the first trimester reference ranges I see online. But I'm not a doctor or a nurse and I don't want to mess about with medication off my own bat.

I am anxious right now as I've had 2 prior miscarriages in the first trimester and I suspect they were due to undiagnosed thyroid issues since I had many of the symptoms.

What would you do?

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helvella profile image
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My take on biotin linked below.

Others have far better and deeper understanding of the pregnancy. issues than me.

An 18 week gap, in pregnancy, is quite simply ridiculous.

You need the reference ranges from the lab that did your test. They vary from lab to lab and what looks fine using ranges you can easily find, would look bad against another set.

If necessary, call the lab and ask them what their ranges are. But you might find them online.

helvella - Biotin supplementation and testing

A short article about how and why biotin can affect blood tests. Includes information about how to avoid any problems and how much biotin some foods contain.

Last updated 03/01/2025.

helvella.blogspot.com/p/hel...

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Lovetoread88 in reply tohelvella

Thank you this is very reassuring. The supplement had 150micrograms so it sounds like it may not have had a large impact. I have the reference ranges that the hospital gave me. I was comparing them to the advice I saw from other nhs trusts which alter their range for pregnancy and by trimester. Although I still think their approaches seem better than my local trust, it's good to know that the reference ranges don't transfer across from NHS trust to trust as it means my googling is not relevant :)

It's good to know that the midwife's approach isn't totally off base (other than the massive gap between appointments which is my trust's policy). So I might be ok just getting some extra testing done privately to monitor but I don't need to redo this one

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Star13

Does your midwife know you have had two previous miscarriages?

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greygoose

Hi Lovetoread88, welcome to the forum. :)

18 weeks is a long time to leave between tests when you're pregnant! So much can change in that time. I think that is bordering on negligence, but I don't know what you can do about it. Can you get private testing?

Also I feel like the results might indicate that I might need to decrease my dose a bit since the tsh level has dropped from 4.8 to 0.8 in a month and the free T4 levels are relatively high at 16.4 which seems to be out of the first trimester reference ranges I see online.

You should never, ever dose by the TSH. It is irrelevant. And when you're pregnant you need high T4 because the baby takes a lot of it. What is the lab range for your FT4 test? Ranges you see on-line have nothing to do with your results because they vary from lab to lab, and we need the range that came with your result. :)

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Lovetoread88 in reply togreygoose

My trust's policy is to test by trimester and I've happened to end up getting my 1st appointment quite early and my 2nd appointment looks to be right at the end of the 2nd trimester. I agree with you and some of the other posters that I likely need more testing and maybe I can get it via the early pregnancy unit. I've asked for a referral and will also be getting a private test in the meantime.

The results with reference ranges are:

Free T4 16.4 pmol. Reference range 10.8-25.5pmol.

TSH 0.82 m IU/L

Reference range: 0.27-4.2 MIU/L

So if high T4 is good then both look pretty ideal currently.

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greygoose in reply toLovetoread88

FT4: 16.4 pmol/l (Range 10.8 - 25.5) 38.10%

Your FT4 is low, not high. It's not even euthyroid let alone high enough for a pregnant hypo.

TSH is irrelevant.

I thought the rules for testing etc. were different when you're pregnant. They should be.

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welcome to the forum

Has dose levothyroxine been increased as soon as conception was confirmed

Has GP tested vitamin D, folate, B12 and ferritin

Please add results if you have them

Low iron/ferritin can be cause of miscarriage

Suggest you get FULL thyroid and vitamin testing done yourself NOW

Recommended that all thyroid blood tests early morning, ideally just before 9am, only drink water between waking and test and last dose levothyroxine 24 hours before test

This gives highest TSH, lowest FT4 and most consistent results. (Patient to patient tip)

Private tests are available as NHS currently rarely tests Ft3 or all relevant vitamins

Post all about what time of day to test

healthunlocked.com/thyroidu...

Testing options and includes money off codes for private testing

thyroiduk.org/testing/

Medichecks Thyroid plus BOTH TPO and TG antibodies and vitamins

medichecks.com/products/adv...

Blue Horizon Thyroid Premium Gold includes BOTH TPO and TG antibodies, cortisol and vitamins

bluehorizonbloodtests.co.uk...

Medichecks and BH also offer private blood draw at clinic near you, or private nurse to your own home…..for an extra fee

Only do private testing early Monday or Tuesday morning.

Tips on how to do DIY finger prick test

support.medichecks.com/hc/e...

If you normally take levothyroxine at bedtime/in night ...adjust timings as follows prior to blood test

If testing Monday morning, delay Saturday evening dose levothyroxine until Sunday morning. Delay Sunday evening dose levothyroxine until after blood test on Monday morning. Take Monday evening dose levothyroxine as per normal

thyroiduk.org/having-a-baby/

NICE guidelines that if hypothyroid or subclinical you should see endocrinologist BEFORE TTC

cks.nice.org.uk/topics/hypo...

See pages 7&8

btf-thyroid.org/Handlers/Do...

Also here - dose increase in levothyroxine as soon as pregnancy test confirms conception

cuh.nhs.uk/patient-informat...

thyroidpharmacist.com/artic...

Low ferritin, low thyroid levels and miscarriage

preventmiscarriage.com/iron...

Low iron and hypothyroid

endocrineweb.com/news/thyro...

Folate and B12 and Neural tube defects and autism

You don’t want to much or too little of these vital vitamins

healthunlocked.com/thyroidu...

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Lovetoread88 in reply toSlowDragon

No vitamin levels have been tested by the GP, I will get this done through some of the self testing services thank you.My thyroid issues were picked up by my IVF clinic. They're subclinical although I have only ever had my TSH level tested. I have had ongoing unclear autoimmune issues for many years e..g hives, fatigue and have never seen such a difference as I have since starting levo so I'm hoping to stay on it.

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SlowDragonAdministrator in reply toLovetoread88

Hive’s extremely common with Hashimoto’s

Once we start on Levo it’s rare to stop, it’s usually needed for rest of your life

It’s not a medication, but a replacement hormone as no longer making enough

Levo doesn’t “top up” failing thyroid, it replaces it

Typically dose is increased slowly upwards in 25mcg steps until on full replacement dose usually approx 1.6mcg per kilo of your weight per day

Low vitamin levels as, especially iron/ferritin are extremely common with autoimmune thyroid disease

Many on levothyroxine need to supplement vitamin D, separate magnesium, separate vitamin B complex daily

Some also need daily B12, especially initially

Some struggle to maintain iron/ferritin

ALWAYS test before starting any supplements

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Saraaaaz

The lab ranges for TSH during each trimester of pregnancy are different. Make sure you are comparing your results to the TSH ranges for pregnancy. A lower TSH during pregnancy, especially the first trimester is acceptable. With the ft4 level you are not over medicated. You should have labs every 4 weeks when pregnant. I am pregnant. This is how it’s done.

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Lovetoread88 in reply toSaraaaaz

Depends on the NHS trust sadly, some are once a month, some a once a trimester. It still wouldn't make sense anyway though as with once a trimester you'd think it would be 12 weeks between tests not 18. Could be the way my appointments have worked out or could be a miscommunication. I'm going to get my GP to refer me to the EPU anyway to ask for monthly testing

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Star13

if I were you I’d make an appointment to see your GP and take a copy of this with you. As you should be being tested every 4-6 weeks.

This guidance is by British Thyroid Foundation

search.app/QQfQruTdLFJ5UGoQ8

Also ask your GP to refer you to the recurrent miscarriage clinic as you have had two previous, that way they will keep an extra eye on you and may even do more scans.

Oh and congratulations! I’m sure all will go well!

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