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Hi guys,

Had a blood test at my GP after a 3 month course of 305mg Ferrous Fumarate and got results this morning

Serum ferritin level: 30 ng/ml [30 - 150];

Note raised CRP. The Ferritin value may be lower than this once; the acute phase response is over.; Ferritin 15-30ug/L may suggest depletion of iron stores.;

Serum C reactive protein level: 8 mg/L [0 - 5] - Above high reference limit

Should I be pushing GP to continue the Ferrous Fumarate as Ferritin is very bottom of range at 30? And could be lower due to the raised CRP?

Other Iron results were:

Serum transferrin level: 2.82 g/L [2 - 3.6]

Serum iron level: 17.6 umol/l [5.8 - 34.5]

Transferrin saturation index: 25 % [15 - 50]

Or with the other Iron results being okay is the Ferritin of 30 not a problem?

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you need to continue supplementing

Retest again in another 3 months

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PS89 in reply toSlowDragon

Hi SlowDragon thank you for your reply. Asked GP about continuing with the prescribed Ferrous Fumarate and they've not said they will continue the prescription. Just said Dr has seen results and will retest in 6 months, so looks like I might have to source my own iron tablets

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That’s pretty common

NHS only obligated to test and treat vitamin deficiencies

Down to us as individuals to maintain good vitamin levels

However with high CRP (inflammation) ferritin is possibly false high

How low was ferritin before you started supplements

Are you vegetarian or vegan

Pre or post menopause

retest 3-4 times a year if self supplementing.

It’s possible to have low ferritin but high iron

Test early morning, only water to drink between waking and test. Avoid high iron rich dinner night before test

If taking any iron supplements stop 5-7 days before testing

Medichecks iron panel test

medichecks.com/products/iro...

Look at increasing iron rich foods in diet

Eating iron rich foods like liver or liver pate once a week plus other red meat, pumpkin seeds and dark chocolate, plus daily orange juice or other vitamin C rich drink can help improve iron absorption

List of iron rich foods

dailyiron.net

Links about iron and ferritin

irondisorders.org/too-littl...

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Great in-depth article on low ferritin

oatext.com/iron-deficiency-...

drhedberg.com/ferritin-hypo...

This is interesting because I have noticed that many patients with Hashimoto’s disease and hypothyroidism, start to feel worse when their ferritin drops below 80 and usually there is hair loss when it drops below 50.

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Posts discussing Three Arrows as very effective supplement

Great replies from @FallingInReverse

re ferritin and Three arrows

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Great reply by @fallinginreverse

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Ferrodyn supplement

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Iron patches

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Thyroid disease is as much about optimising vitamins as thyroid hormones

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Post discussing just how long it can take to raise low ferritin

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Iron and thyroid link

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Posts discussing why important to do full iron panel test

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Good iron but low ferritin

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Chicken livers if iron is good, but ferritin low

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Shellfish and Mussels are excellent source of iron

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Iron deficiency without anaemia

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Ferritin over 100 to alleviate symptoms

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Great research article discussing similar…..ferritin over 100 often necessary

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Really interesting talk on YouTube, link in reply by Humanbean discussing both iron deficiency and towards end how inflammation can also be an issue

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Inflammation affecting ferritin

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Updated reference ranges for top of ferritin range depending upon age

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Thank you for your incredible patience while you have been awaiting the outcome of our ferritin reference range review. We conducted this with Inuvi lab, which has now changed the reference ranges to the following:

Females 18 ≤ age < 40. 30 to 180

Females 40 ≤ age < 50. 30 to 207

Females 50 ≤ age < 60. 30 to 264l

Females Age ≥ 60. 30 to 332

Males 18 ≤ age < 40 30 to 442

Males Age ≥ 40 30 to 518

The lower limits of 30 are by the NICE threshold of <30 for iron deficiency. Our review of Medichecks data has determined the upper limits. This retrospective study used a large dataset of blood test results from 25,425 healthy participants aged 18 to 97 over seven years. This is the most extensive study on ferritin reference ranges, and we hope to achieve journal publication so that these ranges can be applied more widely.

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PS89 in reply toSlowDragon

SlowDragon Before I started supplements, my Ferritin was 18

Not vegetarian or Vegan

I'm pre menopause, still menstruating

Not sure if any of that helps? If it was simply just left for 6 months as GP seems happy with. Is it likely it would drop again?

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SlowDragonAdministrator in reply toPS89

Sorry I didn’t realise this was your very first post

Are you hypothyroid and on levothyroxine ?

What are your most recent thyroid results

TSH, Ft4 and Ft3

Low vitamin levels common when hypo/on inadequate replacement thyroid hormone levels

If it was simply just left for 6 months as GP seems happy with. Is it likely it would drop again?

Very likely

On levothyroxine most patients find it essential to maintain ferritin at least over 70 if possible

What are your most recent vitamin D, folate and B12 results

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Had a blood test at my GP after a 3 month course of 305mg Ferrous Fumarate

How well did you tolerate the ferrous fumarate 305mg?

And how often were you taking it?

Ferrous fumarate is one of the iron salts. There are three that doctors prescribe and all three can be bought in pharmacies in the UK without prescription. They are ferrous fumarate, ferrous sulfate, and ferrous gluconate. I would never recommend ferrous sulfate - very few people tolerate it, but you could always try it if nothing else works.

To buy any of the iron salts you need a pharmacist's permission. They may quiz you about why you need it. If that happens just say that you are iron deficient (or anaemic) and your doctor has told you to buy your own iron supplements. I was refused once, but I suspect the pharmacist may have been at lunch. I didn't kick up a stink - I just went to another pharmacy and asked there.

Iron salts aren't usually expensive. A box of 84 tablets of ferrous fumarate 210mg cost me about £7 the last time I bought them.

Info on dosing for each of the iron salts - note - brand isn't important :

bnf.nice.org.uk/drugs/ferro...

bnf.nice.org.uk/drugs/ferro...

bnf.nice.org.uk/drugs/ferro...

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Having told you about iron salts, I would actually suggest you first try heme/haem iron (Three Arrows) instead. People generally find it more tolerable and more successful at raising their iron levels than the iron salts. But it is more expensive and has to be imported from the USA, and one or two people have not been successful with it, and had to go back to iron salts.

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How to dose Three Arrows :

threearrowsnutra.com/en-uk/...

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Raising iron can be a very long and tedious business. It took me nearly two years to raise my ferritin to mid-range (from about 20 up to about 80) with ferrous fumarate 210mg, but I didn't know about haem iron at the time. My serum iron stayed low. After I got my ferritin to mid-range I just aimed to keep it there. I took a maintenance dose of iron for five years before my serum iron started to rise. Once I was happy with all my iron panel results I stopped supplementing. I still monitor my iron by doing an iron panel once or twice a year.

The biggest danger with iron is that people will supplement, their ferritin will barely rise, and behind the scenes their serum iron is rocketing upwards - but the patient doesn't know because they never test serum iron. That doesn't happen often, but when it does it can be dangerous and make patients feel very ill. This is why finding out how well you absorb iron is important and why you need to test the occasional iron panel, rather than just ferritin.

The body has no means of getting rid of excess iron and ferritin apart from losing a miniscule amount in faeces. So if people supplement too much they have to have therapeutic phlebotomy i.e. they have to have blood taken and disposed of. If they don't do this then excess iron can deposit itself in any of the organs. This is what happens in haemochromatosis in people who absorb iron too easily.

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