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I promise I'm not addicted to blood tests 😅

But....I was curious about TG antibodies and came across Randox who's prices were very cheap so I thought why not!

Anyway the results came in last night and I'm not sure what to make of it all to be honest. It was only 2 weeks ago I had my bloods done and what a difference.

I've been supplementing every single day religiously since I found out how low my folate was so maybe that's made a difference. Would explain why I still feel awful but T4 has increased.

My TSH has never been this high. Now, I have an appointment next week with a GP who in the past has been very helpful with other issues, and I initially wanted to speak about something completely different but I am wondering if it is worth mentioning this to her or waiting it out for another few months.

I know, I need to be patient and wait until everything is just right to prove that I do have a thyroid issue (which is ridiculous really when you look at my history).

Anyway.....thoughts welcome!

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well you have Hashimoto’s as confined by high TPO antibodies

So levels can hop about

But definitely give copy of these results to your GP

So looking at previous posts

Folate and B12 were too low

So you should be taking a separate B12 daily and a daily vitamin B complex

Ferritin was dire

Have you had full iron panel test

Has GP prescribed iron supplements or are you taking Three Arrows

Have you tested vitamin D yet

NHS easy postal kit vitamin D test £31 via

vitamindtest.org.uk

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Mummybear0213 in reply toSlowDragon

I'm currently taking an iron supplement but waiting for a delivery for Three Arrows.....also Thorne b12 complex and Better You Vitamin D plus K2 (3 sprays daily).

I may just send them the results, not hoping for anything to come from it but maybe the right doctor will see it and take action if I'm lucky.

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You need separate B12 as well as vitamin B complex until Active B12 gets over 70 (ideally over 100) or serum B12 over 500

you may be able to reduce then stop the B12 and just carry on with the B Complex.

If Vegetarian or vegan likely to need ongoing separate B12 few times a week

Highly effective B12 drops

natureprovides.com/products...

Or

B12 sublingual lozenges

uk.iherb.com/pr/jarrow-form...

cytoplan.co.uk/shop-by-prod...

In-depth article on different forms of B12

perniciousanemia.org/b12/fo...

B12 range in U.K. is too wide

Interesting that in this research B12 below 400 is considered inadequate

healthunlocked.com/thyroidu...

perniciousanemia.org/b12/le...

And why aiming to keep B12 over 500 recommended

perniciousanemia.org/b12/le...

Also look at adding a separate magnesium supplement in evening

betterbones.com/bone-nutrit...

medicalnewstoday.com/articl...

livescience.com/61866-magne...

sciencedaily.com/releases/2...

Recipe ideas

bbc.co.uk/food/articles/mag...

Interesting article by Dr Malcolm Kendrick on magnesium

drmalcolmkendrick.org/categ...

I may just send them the results, not hoping for anything to come from it but maybe the right doctor will see it and take action if I'm lucky.

Request repeat thyroid test in 6-8 weeks

Plus coeliac blood test if not been tested yet as per NICE Guidelines

Unless you are already on gluten free diet

nice.org.uk/guidance/ng20/c...

Plus you will need full iron panel test for anaemia after 3-4 months on iron supplement

Include copies of ferritin test results and ranges

Serum ferritin: 14 ug/L Normal range: 20 to 235

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Mummybear0213 in reply toSlowDragon

I'll add the separate b12 and we've got magnesium powder in the cupboard so I'll add that too.....thank you.

Brilliant knowledge and advice as usual x

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Forgot to say in my above reply...they did check me for coeliac and it came back ok.

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So now you have negative coeliac test you can trial gluten free diet

Hashimoto's affects the gut and leads to low stomach acid and then low vitamin levels

Low vitamin levels affect Thyroid hormone working

Poor gut function can lead leaky gut (literally holes in gut wall) this can cause food intolerances.

Most common by far is gluten.

Dairy is second most common.

A trial of strictly gluten free diet is always worth doing

Only 5% of Hashimoto’s patients test positive for coeliac but a further 81% of Hashimoto’s patients who try gluten free diet find noticeable or significant improvement or find it’s essential

A strictly gluten free diet helps or is essential due to gluten intolerance (no test available) or due to leaky gut and gluten causing molecular mimicry (see Amy Myers link)

Changing to a strictly gluten free diet may help reduce symptoms, help gut heal and may slowly lower TPO antibodies

Trying gluten free diet for 3-6 months.

If no noticeable improvement retest thyroid antibodies and see if they have reduced

Then perhaps consider reintroduceping gluten and see if symptoms or antibodies get worse

chriskresser.com/the-gluten...

amymyersmd.com/2018/04/3-re...

thyroidpharmacist.com/artic...

drknews.com/changing-your-d...

Non Coeliac Gluten sensitivity (NCGS) and autoimmune disease

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/296...

The predominance of Hashimoto thyroiditis represents an interesting finding, since it has been indirectly confirmed by an Italian study, showing that autoimmune thyroid disease is a risk factor for the evolution towards NCGS in a group of patients with minimal duodenal inflammation. On these bases, an autoimmune stigma in NCGS is strongly supported

nuclmed.gr/wp/wp-content/up...

In summary, whereas it is not yet clear whether a gluten free diet can prevent autoimmune diseases, it is worth mentioning that HT patients with or without CD benefit from a diet low in gluten as far as the progression and the potential disease complications are concerned

restartmed.com/hashimotos-g...

Despite the fact that 5-10% of patients have Celiac disease, in my experience and in the experience of many other physicians, at least 80% + of patients with Hashimoto's who go gluten-free notice a reduction in their symptoms almost immediately.

Similarly few months later consider trying dairy free too. Approx 50-60% find dairy free beneficial

With loads of vegan dairy alternatives these days it’s not as difficult as in the past

Post discussing gluten

healthunlocked.com/thyroidu...

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