Thyroid results from private test.

[elwins]

been under active for nearly 70 yrs

On 50 micrograms per day.

Followed all the correct testing regulations as advised on this site.

Do these results mean I am going over active.

Free thyroxine 24.3 pmol/L Range 12-22

Free T3 3.05 pmolL Range 3.1-6.8

TSH 0.21 mu/L Range 0.27-4.2

Advice required from the knowledgeable people on this site would be much appreciated.

Thanks very much for any help it is very much appreciated.

Vit D and B12 in range.

also pre diabetic, controlled by diet.

Blood pressure controlled by medication.

Cholesterol controlled by medication and diet.

[tattybogle]

Hi elwins ,

2 yrs ago on 75mcg :

TSH 0.37 [0.27 - 4-2]

Free T3 4.09 [3.1-6.8]

Free T4 19.4 [12-22]

Now on 50mcg :

TSH 0.21 [0.27-4.2]

Free T3 3.05 [3.1-6.8]

Free T4 24.3 [12-22]

Not going over active no , but it does show fT4 is a little bit too high .... fT3 is very low though ( below range) So your conversion of T4 to T3 is worse than it was a couple of yrs ago

So it might be worth considering trying a very slight reduction in levo for a couple of months to see how it feels eg 25/ 50 alternate ... or perhaps 5 days 50mcg / 2 days 25mcg .

because having such a high fT4 won't be helping you get the best fT3 level.

when fT4 is very high, it slows down conversion to T3.. so if you get fT4 back in range , there's a chance it might actually increase the fT3 level a little.

ideally, you'd be offered a trial of some T3 with a reduced dose of levo to get better balance T4:T3 levels .

it's worth discussing to see if GP will refer you to endo for a NHS trial of T3 combination therapy, due to the below range fT3.

[elwins in reply to tattybogle]

Thanks for help much appreciated will try what you suggest thanks again.

[SlowDragon Ambassador]

what are actual results and ranges for vitamin D, B12, folate and ferritin levels

What vitamin supplements are you taking

Ft3 is very low

Suggest you look at seeing an endocrinologist for T3 prescribed

Email Thyroid U.K. for list of thyroid specialist endocrinologists and doctors who will prescribe T3 if clinically appropriate

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[elwins in reply to SlowDragon]

Thanks very much for that.

[elwins in reply to SlowDragon]

Folate levels 4.8 ugLrange 3.89 to 19.45

Ferritin 277 ugL range 13-150

Vit D 86 nmol/L range 37.5-150

B12 116 range 37.5-150 pmol/L

Use better you spray for both B12 and Vit D

Thanks again.

[SlowDragon Ambassador in reply to elwins]

Suggest you stop separate B12 to be supplementing a good quality daily vitamin B complex instead, one with folate in (not folic acid)

This can help keep all B vitamins in balance and will help maintain B12 levels too

Difference between folate and folic acid

healthline.com/nutrition/fo...

B vitamins best taken after breakfast

Thorne Basic B recommended vitamin B complex that contains folate, but they are large capsules. (You can tip powder out if can’t swallow capsule)

Thorne currently difficult to find at reasonable price, should be around £20-£25. iherb.com often have in stock. Or try ebay

Other options

healthunlocked.com/thyroidu....

Igennus B complex popular option too. Nice small tablets. Most people only find they need one per day. But a few people find it’s not high enough dose

IMPORTANT......If you are taking vitamin B complex, or any supplements containing biotin, remember to stop these 7 days before ALL BLOOD TESTS , as biotin can falsely affect test results

endo.confex.com/endo/2016en...

endocrinenews.endocrine.org...

In week before blood test, when you stop vitamin B complex, you might want to consider taking a separate folate supplement (eg Jarrow methyl folate 400mcg) and continue separate B12

Post discussing how biotin can affect test results

healthunlocked.com/thyroidu...

[elwins in reply to SlowDragon]

Thanks very much will order tomorrow.

[Hidden in reply to elwins]

I have a B12shot every 12weeks as I don’t have the ability to process B12 (no ‘intrinsic factor’), so taking a B12 supplement wouldn’t actually ‘work’ as my body can’t process it-what do you suggest?

[SlowDragon Ambassador]

As you’re likely to benefit from addition of T3 please consider signing this petition

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[elwins in reply to SlowDragon]

Petition signed

[Ukie in reply to SlowDragon]

Hi SlowDragon. I don’t know if this has had its own post, but this is the first time I’ve seen it. Please consider giving it its own post if not, i think many people will be keen to sign, as I was. Thanks

[helvella Administrator in reply to Ukie]

There have now been at least three posts about this within the last 24 hours!

Parliamentary petition for more thyroid research funding

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Please sign this petition!

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Give more funding for thyroid research and patients after price hike

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Other than repeating posts, and adding mentions of it to posts/threads, what can we do to bring it to attention?

[tattybogle in reply to helvella]

how to attract more attention .....Are we allowed to tag long lists of members in a reply to the those posts about the petition ..... like ,i dunno anyone who follows us , or .. anyone we ever replied to ....about anything.... lol

[SlowDragon Ambassador in reply to Ukie]

It has - 3 so far

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But I shall be chasing members up to sign as well

Only 615 signatures so far ….very long way to go

Can only sign if based in U.K. ….which the majority of our 130,000 plus members are

[Lovecake in reply to SlowDragon]

Only saw it in this post - have signed and passed it on to 10 others

[Ukie in reply to SlowDragon]

It’s OK, I’ve just spotted it 🙂

[Kowbie in reply to SlowDragon]

Thanks for this first time of seeing it and signed , thanks again

[Soaping in reply to SlowDragon]

Ive signed the petition SlowDragon im not on t3 sadly but signing for everyone that is 😃

[greygoose]

Blood pressure controlled by medication.

Cholesterol controlled by medication and diet.

High blood pressure and high cholesterol are hypo symptoms. You are still hypo with that low FT3.

Cholesterol levels have next to nothing to do with diet, but a lot to do with low FT3. We had a question about cholesterol earlier today :

healthunlocked.com/thyroidu...

By 'medication', I imagine you mean statins? Statins are not recommended for hypo, nor for women. Plus they are likely to reduce your cholesterol more than is desirable. Your body needs cholesterol for regeneration and repair, also for making sex hormones. Most of your body is made up of cholesterol: cells walls and the brain. So, lowering it too far can have all sorts of undesireable effects. Far better to raise your FT3 levels so that the body can process cholesterol effectively, so that it won't build up in the blood. But, even if it does, it won't kill you. Cholesterol does not cause heart attacks or strokes, but statins do.

[elwins in reply to greygoose]

Not on statins refused them on a alternative instead.

[greygoose in reply to elwins]

Same thing. Not a good idea. Improving your FT3 level will reduce your cholesterol. But, even if it doesn't, it doesn't matter. Cholesterol is not the enemy doctors make it out to be.

[elwins in reply to greygoose]

Thanks for that much appreciated.

[greygoose in reply to elwins]

You're very welcome.

[janeroar]

How are you feeling overall on this dose?

[McPammy]

I’d suggest you need to drop your levothyroxine dose very slightly and add liothyronine T3 small amount say 5mcg for starters then maybe add a further 5mcg T3 as second daily dose.

[Blissful]

Cholesterol controlled by medication and diet

LDL cholesterol is the PRIMARY input to our steroid hormone cascade/synthesis - pregnenalone is second ("pregnenolone is a steroid hormone that plays a key role in the production of other steroid hormones, including progesterone, DHEA, and estrogen"

Without cholesterol it would be somewhat akin to trying to make an omelette without the eggs!

"feeling good is actually a symptom of high cholesterol!"

westonaprice.org/health-top...

The important thing about cholesterol is the particle size of the lipoproteins - "healthy" VLDL should be low - about half of a VLDL particle is made up of triglycerides - elevated triglycerides are the enemy

[elwins in reply to Blissful]

Thanks for reply.