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I was recommended by people on here to get hold of a printed version of my blood results and I’ve managed to get it now.

Both my TSH level and T3 level were abnormal.

TSH was 0.02 mu/L

T3 was 7.4 pmol/L

what should I think with these results? I was told that I could have a blood test in 3 months (which will be in December) but I’m still having pretty bad anxiety and don’t know what the best plan of action is. Also are the measurements in the picture below, what normal range should be?

Thanks as usual,

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Hi Lilacbee,

Could you repost the image? I can't see any results, only ranges.

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Lilacbee in reply to

sure, here is the results and the ranges are on the picture above

Results of TSH and T3 results
in reply to Lilacbee

Can you post them as one picture? It's really confusing going back and forth.

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Lilacbee in reply to

yes sorry I’ve updated the main picture !!

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Jaydee1507Administrator in reply to Lilacbee

Cannot see reference ranges in 2nd picture.

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pennyannie

Hello Lilacbee :

Do you have any thyroid antibody results and ranges listed there ?

Generally the abbreviations are as either/or/and - TPO - TgAB - TSI - TRab -

and explained as - thyroid peroxidase - thyroglobulin antibodies - thyroid stimulating or thyroid receptor blocking antibodies ?

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Lilacbee in reply to pennyannie

I don’t think so but I will have a look

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Jaydee1507Administrator

It's surprising your GP hasn't asked you to reduce dose already with a pretty low TSH, also FT3 over range. You're probably just a bit over medicated and would feel better reducing dose slightly.

Your folate also looks on the low side so a good B complex would be recommended like Thorne Basic B.

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Lilacbee in reply to Jaydee1507

hi, I don’t take any medication for my thyroid yet. The only medication I’m on is my contraceptive pill

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Jaydee1507Administrator in reply to Lilacbee

My mistake. In that case, what SlowDragon has said is what you need to follow. It may be that you are in the very early days of Hashimoto's with bit of a hyper swing at the moment. Can't tell exactly without antibody results. Get GP to check them. Raising your folate by taking the B complex should help you feel a bit better to weather the higher thyroid level.

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Lilacbee in reply to Jaydee1507

thank you! I’ll be phoning the gp tomorrow so hopefully can get it sorted!

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SlowDragonAdministrator

No vitamin D result

how much vitamin D are you currently taking

NHS easy postal kit vitamin D test £29 via

vitamindtest.org.uk

Was test done early morning

Folate is too low

supplementing a good quality daily vitamin B complex, one with folate in (not folic acid) 

This can help keep all B vitamins in balance

Difference between folate and folic acid 

chriskresser.com/folate-vs-...

B vitamins best taken after breakfast

Thorne Basic B recommended vitamin B complex that contains folate, but they are large capsules. (You can tip powder out if can’t swallow capsule) 

IMPORTANT......If you are taking vitamin B complex, or any supplements containing biotin, remember to stop these 7 days before ALL BLOOD TESTS , as biotin can falsely affect test results

endo.confex.com/endo/2016en...

endocrinenews.endocrine.org...

In week before blood test, when you stop vitamin B complex, you might want to consider taking a separate methyl folate supplement

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SlowDragonAdministrator

Looking at previous posts

You’re not currently diagnosed or on levothyroxine

Have you had thyroid antibodies tested yet for autoimmune thyroid disease also called Hashimoto’s

If antibodies are negative request ultrasound scan of thyroid

Hashimoto’s frequently starts with transient hyperthyroid results and symptoms before becoming increasingly hypothyroid

Gluten intolerance and IBS extremely common with Hashimoto’s

Your coeliac blood test is negative….but numbers are higher than might suggest no issues

It’s ALWAYS worth trying strictly gluten free diet with thyroid issues

Poor gut function can lead leaky gut (literally holes in gut wall) this can cause food intolerances. Most common by far is gluten. Dairy is second most common. 

According to Izabella Wentz the Thyroid Pharmacist approx 5% with Hashimoto's are coeliac, but over 80% find gluten free diet helps, sometimes significantly. Either due to direct gluten intolerance (no test available) or due to leaky gut and gluten causing molecular mimicry (see Amy Myers link) 

Changing to a strictly gluten free diet may help reduce symptoms, help gut heal and slowly lower TPO antibodies 

While still eating high gluten diet ask GP for coeliac blood test first or buy test online for under £20, just to rule it out first 

Assuming test is negative you can immediately go on strictly gluten free diet 

(If test is positive you will need to remain on high gluten diet until endoscopy, maximum 6 weeks wait officially) 

Trying gluten free diet for 3-6 months. If no noticeable improvement then reintroduce gluten and see if symptoms get worse

chriskresser.com/the-gluten...

amymyersmd.com/2018/04/3-re...

thyroidpharmacist.com/artic...

drknews.com/changing-your-d...

Non Coeliac Gluten sensitivity (NCGS) and autoimmune disease

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/296...

The predominance of Hashimoto thyroiditis represents an interesting finding, since it has been indirectly confirmed by an Italian study, showing that autoimmune thyroid disease is a risk factor for the evolution towards NCGS in a group of patients with minimal duodenal inflammation. On these bases, an autoimmune stigma in NCGS is strongly supported

nuclmed.gr/wp/wp-content/up...

In summary, whereas it is not yet clear whether a gluten free diet can prevent autoimmune diseases, it is worth mentioning that HT patients with or without CD benefit from a diet low in gluten as far as the progression and the potential disease complications are concerned

restartmed.com/hashimotos-g...

Despite the fact that 5-10% of patients have Celiac disease, in my experience and in the experience of many other physicians, at least 80% + of patients with Hashimoto's who go gluten-free notice a reduction in their symptoms almost immediately.

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Lilacbee in reply to SlowDragon

thank you. I have been tested for coeliac, I don’t think you can see in the picture but I was negative for that

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SlowDragonAdministrator in reply to Lilacbee

yes I saw that

Only 5% of thyroid patients test positive for coeliac disease

But a further 80% find strictly gluten free diet helps or is essential

you have IBS …..might significantly improve

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Lilacbee in reply to SlowDragon

thank you! I have been on a gluten free diet for around 3 weeks now, trying my best :), I’m mainly worried about the anxiety attacks I’m having which could be caused by the thyroid

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SlowDragonAdministrator in reply to Lilacbee

Anxiety is extremely common with thyroid disease

You should see that diminish as your vitamin levels improve

Suggest you get vitamin D tested via GP or order easy test kit

Request GP test thyroid antibodies

TPO and TG antibodies for Hashimoto’s (autoimmune hypothyroid)

TSI or Trab antibodies for Graves’ disease (autoimmune Hyperthyroid) - might only be tested via endocrinologist

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Lilacbee in reply to SlowDragon

thank you!

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Incoguto

Hey Lilacbee, I think the next step is to test antibodies for Hashis and Graves disease: TPO, TgAB - these two are for Hashis, and TSI, TrAB - for Graves. Your anxiety attacks are possibly caused by your FT3 and FT4 being quite high and out of range. This could potentially be due to Hashimotos or Graves. Sorry to hear about these, they can be really awful, hang in there.

If you feel really unwell with these attacks, please go and talk to someone like psychologist, psychiatrist or a even a good trusted GP, you could get temporary meds to help you in the meantime.

If you don't have antibodies for any of these, and the ultrasound is clear (as a next step after testing antibodies), then there could be other reasons for hypothyroidism or hyperthyroidism, but for now, I'd test for antibodies, because if you need treatment, this will determine what that would look like.

If you had any other tests done before these, post it here in the comment.

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Lilacbee in reply to Incoguto

thank you :)

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