New test results

About me:

Being referred to Endo after two sets of hyper results a few weeks ago

Doing my research and my own tests before seeing the endo

(don't know when this will be)

Not currently on any medication

About the tests:

This set came from Thriva finger prick test

Taken at 7:30 am before breakfast

Stopped supplements 7 days before

TSH, FT4 and FT3 pretty consistent with the 2 sets of NHS tests although now both FT3 and FT4 are out of range not just T3.

Good news is I don’t have TPO or TG antibodies, so I hope this rules out Hypothyroidism presenting as Hyper in the early days?

My next step is to get TRab tested which I will do in the next few weeks.

I generally feel well. Heart rate is fine. Only the same amount of anxiety as everyone else right now

I’m going to start supplementing with:

B complex

140mg Vitamin C

25mg Vitamin D3

188mg Magnesium

[SeasideSusie Remembering]

Jess_7

I’m going to start supplementing with:

B complex

Which B Complex are you thinking of?

I would suggest Igennus Super B at their suggested dose of 2 tablets and when your Active B12 goes over 100 I would reduce to 1 tablet. See how that goes.

Always stop B Complex for 7 days before any blood test as it contains Biotin and if the lab uses Biotin in he testing procedure (which most labs do) then it gives false results.

140mg Vitamin C

That's a tiddly amount of Vit C. A more useful amount would be 1000mg.

25mg Vitamin D3

This is just 1000iu D3. With your current level of 45.9nmol/L the Vit D Council recommends 4,000-5,000iu to reach their recommended level of 125nmol. You should retest in 3 months.

Once you've reached the recommended level then you'd need to find your maintenance dose by trial and error, this could be 2,000iu, maybe more, maybe less. You should retest twice a year when supplementing to make sure you maintain at the recommended level.

When taking D3 we need it's important cofactors - magnesium to help the body convert D3 into it's usable form, and Vit K2-mk7 which directs the extra uptake of calcium to bones and teeth where it is needed and away from arteries and soft tissue where it can be deposited and cause problems.

188mg Magnesium

This might be OK although most magnesium supplements tend to be between 350-450mg.

Don't start all supplements at once, start with one, give it 2 weeks, if no adverse effects then add in the second one, give it 2 weeks and if no adverse effects then add in the next one, etc. This way if you do have any adverse reactions then you will know what caused it.

[Hidden in reply to SeasideSusie]

Thanks SeasideSusie. I do have 1000mg of vit C in the cupboard and 4000 iu of vit D as well so I will take those!

I also have solgar megasorb vitamin b-complex.

The numbers I mentioned are little pouches of Together vitamins.

[SeasideSusie Remembering in reply to Hidden]

The Together D3 is very expensive at £6.99 for 30 capsules. It might be worth you looking at Doctor's Best D3 softgels which contain just D3 and extra virgin olive oil and is much, much cheaper.

[Hidden in reply to SeasideSusie]

Thanks, will do.

[Hidden in reply to SeasideSusie]

Hiya Sorry to butt in but when you say when active b12 goes over a 100 take 1 b complex that doesn't apply to b12 injections does it? As I still take 2 a day of Ingennes once a week atm injections so my b12 be high I have PA though might be different

[SeasideSusie Remembering in reply to Hidden]

Gsd2011

My understanding is that when on B12 injections you don't bother testing B12 because it's going to be high if you've recently had your injection and possibly low when your injection is due.

My response above is for people who aren't on B12 injections, it's just that Active B12 below 70 suggests testing for B12 deficiency, and any result close to 70 would be indicative of maybe needing B12 supplements. Anyone supplementing at 2 x Igennus (which gives 900mcg B12), once their Active B12 level goes over 100 then reducing to a "maintenance" dose of 1 x Igennus daily would be a good idea.

[Hidden in reply to SeasideSusie]

Well mines definitely well over that but I thought the b12 in the Ingennes tablets I wont absorb any due to PA Thank You for reply...

[SeasideSusie Remembering in reply to Hidden]

I also understand that PA affects absorption of nutrients. Why are you taking the B Complex tablets if there's a good chance they wont be absorbed?

[Hidden in reply to SeasideSusie]

I thought the same thing but i thought other PA n Hashi sufferers are taking vitimans I took ferrous sulphate n the vit d3 worked upped both my results well

[Sumiko_no_mono]

Not sure what's the finger thing, but excessive ft4 and ft3 means that ypu are hyper.

[MikeM46]

Yes, those FT4& FT3 readings may mean you are a bit hyper. The test ranges are compiled from taking large samples of seemingly healthy individuals readings and then snipping a small %ge off the top & bottom of those ranges to create a safer margin to go by. That might mean your healthy optimum levels are slightly above range.

However, you could be a bit hyper. Unfortunately, my knowledge is far more about hypo conditions ... you might want to check out if there are any long-term risks in being mildly hyper?

[Hidden in reply to MikeM46]

Thanks, yup I feel physically a lot better than I did a few years ago when readings were in 'normal range' so I'm hoping my body has just decided to settle at a slightly higher range. I'm going to get a TRab test to rule out Graves Disease. If that is negative I'm just not going to worry about it and not let them put me on medication!

[Wetsuiter]

if you feel ok, can i ask why you 've been tested?

[Hidden in reply to Wetsuiter]

I was having heavy periods and spotting between them, so the doctor did a load of different tests and scans. (I have a very sympathetic GP!) One of those was thyroid function as apparently this can affect periods. I'm being referred to the endocrinologist. I'm doing more tests myself before I see them because I don't really want to be put on medication untill it's absolutely necessary. I'm in my early 30s and the GP said that it's unlikely to be doing much damage now but is likely to get progressively worse over time, so I'm glad I can monitor it from now on.

[Hidden in reply to Hidden]

P.s, Iv also had years of depression and anxiety so feeling ok is relative! 🙂

[Wetsuiter]

Well depression and anxiety can actually be related, so you might be surprised how treatment helps.

[Roadrunnergreg]

I'd say with your thyroid levels being high look at high zinc levels, also your ferretin is low, it needs to be about 80 in the range. There's a triangle of nutrients that need to be in balance, these are copper-iron-zinc. I'd say your low in copper, zinc suppresses iron, and cortisol., low cortisol leads to excess thyroid low copper allows high zinc to occur.

You can either start with a copper supplement or get them all checked first.

Iron needs to be about mid range of the range .

Zinc and copper about 65-75% of the range

Hope that helps