Hay fever and thyroid

[Netty510]

Hi everyone i read a post a while ago about histamines and thyroid how we can have hay fever because of being hypo im hypo and i wanted to know do i take a antihistamine or was it something else to stop hay fever? Thanks

[Lora7again]

I have had hay fever since I was 10 years of age so 50 years now. It is not as bad as it was so I use a Beconase nasal spray or Sterimar nasal spray and Opticrom eye drops when it gets bad. I do try to avoid antihistamines but I do take them occasionally. How are you feeling now btw?

[Netty510 in reply to Lora7again]

Hi lora7again is beconase a steroid?i try to stay away from those.so taking antihistamines is ok with thyroid?making aure i take atleast 2 hours away from my first dose.i been ok since 3 days ago i decided to crunch up my ts with my from teeth and letting it get some saliva on it then swallow and i must say its been working very well since that(hoping it keeps going)my emotions and mental stuff listed when i swallow whole but i had no energy and felt like the pill wouldn't take me to my next dose so chewing it has proven atleast for now that this is the way i need to take it..but today i did notice itchiness here and there and slight hay fever (ive had this for years on and off since being hypo)usually it starts up in march or april tha ks for asking 🙂

[helvella Administrator in reply to Netty510]

The Patient Information Leaflet says:

1 What Beconase is and what it is used for

Beconase Aqueous Nasal Spray (called ‘Beconase’ in this leaflet) contains a medicine called beclometasone dipropionate. This belongs to a group of medicines called steroids (also called ‘cortico-steroids’).

medicines.org.uk/emc/produc...

[Lora7again in reply to helvella]

I have used it for over 20 years with no adverse affects. I only need to use the spray for a couple of months a year because I am allergic to grass pollen.

[Angel_of_the_North in reply to Lora7again]

I found beconase for hayfever and becotide for asthma totally ineffective. Pitiron was also ineffective - as a teen I took 20 piritiron one day and didn't even feel drowsy, so I think it is very individual. The only steroid that was even vaguely helpful for asthma was pulmicort, and that didn't really do much. All the steroid inhalers just have me oral thrush so I gave up on them and the nasal sprays gave me sinusitis. High dose vit C was more effective.

[MichelleHarris]

Why shouldnt we be taking antihistamines? I take them daily x

[Ruby1]

I take antihistamines - usually loratadeine ( not sure of spelling!) daily. Boots own brand are cheaper than some. Sometimes I take beconaise nasal spray which does contain steroids. The spray takes a few days use to become effective. When it’s really bad I also use the eye drops, Opticron. Last year was bad for me and I had to use all 3.

Like Hashimotos, hay fever is an autoimmune condition, but I think there are plenty of people with one and not the other. Mine developed later in life so may be connected to being hypothyroid, but I am just grateful that I didn’t suffer with it when I was at school and mostly, both conditions are relieved with medication.

P.s. I think Clarytyn is the more expensive version of Loratadine

[Netty510 in reply to Ruby1]

Yea mine started maybe 5 years ago but been hypo for 15 yrs it comes around march or april usually real bad for a week or so the. Just dissapear

[Ruby1 in reply to Netty510]

I'm very thankful that the drugs around now seem to work. I remember those poor people at school falling asleep at their desks and looking miserable.

Last year was my worst ever - I've never had to medicate with all three at once before. My problem is tree pollen, particularly birch. I think it's just starting to kick off now (eyes been a bit itchy lately) and will be with me until May - ish.

I tend to be worse when it's rainy or windy and often at night, so like someone commented further down, I'd try and take the antihistamine nearer bedtime.

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I take Beconase occasionally, especially in summer and Opticrom for itchy eyes. Ask for something with sodium cromoglycate as other brands are likely cheaper. It is an antihistamine but not a steroid.

Beconase is a "Topical" steroid, meaning it only affects where it's put. So it isn't like taking steroid tablets that you have to slowly come off.

I had asthma as well, almost from birth I think, but thankfully grew out of it in my teens, then developed hay fever instead in my 20s. Eventually that decreased to manageable levels so I don't normally need antihistamine tablets any more, but then got hypothyroidism instead!

I'm guessing now, but antihistamine tablets would likely maybe help autoimmune thyroid disease rather than make it worse. Though best not to take them unless you need them. Probably best to take them well away from thyroid tablets, but only because they might hinder absorption.

EDIT. See next post. Tablets may possibly cause issues.

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PS, just found this, . If it's correct you may have to be careful. Ask the local pharmacist - easier to get hold of than a doctor and will likely see you on the spot!

medhelp.org/posts/Thyroid-D...

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But one of the doctors on the site says "Antihistamines are in general a very safe class of medications and are not known to affect thyroid function."

Either way, probably no worries x

Source: HealthTap, healthtap.com/user_question...

[LivingWithHT]

Hello, I have hypothyroidism and yes, hay fever has been a major issue for me ever since my late teens (and I am also severely allergic to dust.) I didn’t even know that’s what it was back then but I am definitely more aware of how to effectively manage it now. It makes me feel itchy, sneeze a lot and break out all over my chest, arms and body if I don’t take at least two anti-histamine tablets a day and the only one that works for me is chlorphenamine maleate (the same ingredient that’s in Piriton.) However, as a poster that previously replied to this post mentioned, it won’t work for everyone as we all need something different. Many of the other well known anti-histamine/allergy medications did nothing for me, unfortunately, which sucks because the anti-histamine I need isn’t always widely available in my city of residence and others that I have visited due to it not being very popular.

[HLAB35]

My mum and dad were always sniffling and complaining of 'hayfever' so was my mother-in -law. None of them were actually ever allergy screened though; nor could they accurately describe what would set them off when there was literally no pollen around. More recently I found out about 'histamine intolerance' which makes a lot more sense as it ties in with autoimmune illnesses. See the link..

cerascreen.co.uk/blogs/heal...

For histamine intolerance it's better to have a low histamine diet and histamine blockers rather than antihistamines. Antihistamines offer a short term fix for symptoms, but can actually make the root cause (the suppressed production of DAO enzyme which disintegrates histamine into harmless compounds) worse by blocking DAO as well as histamine. Therefore, you'd be better off taking Quercetin or Nettle or Turmeric and lots of Vitamin C with bioflavanoids.... this works for me and my daughter.

I also recommend anything that helps you make more DAO, so zinc, magnesium and p5p help - which is interesting as these also help our adrenals and improve many mood disorders like anxiety and even ADHD.

[Netty510 in reply to HLAB35]

Whast nettle ect?im in the states ..so should i try some doa enzymes?

[HLAB35 in reply to Netty510]

I believe you can get DAO enzyme as a supplement...not used it myself, but worth trying if it's not too pricey and easily available.

Nettle is a very common wild plant in the UK that has been used by herbalists for centuries. Quercetin is a bioflavanoid which is found in apple skins. Solgar do Quercetin and also Nettle supplements here and I guess in the States as well???

Turmeric is the mild warming yellow spice used in curries and is very easy to get hold of here (it's taken from the swollen roots of the plant) - I love it to flavour rice.. and make 'golden milk'.

[Countrykitten]

In my worst allergy season I take an antihistamine when I go to bed..This means it's had a chance to take effect by next morning. I take my Levo around 06.30. This has worked effectively for me for the last two or three years. I used to take antihistamine in the morning but my sinuses/eyes were already irritated when I woke up. Hope this helps. ( I also have a Beconase spray)

[Netty510]

Thabks3 everyone