Post nasal drip and allergies with hashi

[Lucasophia]

My wife have had post nasal drip few a couple of months and a couple of allergic reactions from hay fever tablets can nasal drip cause symptoms like asthma. Cause she gets breathless sometimes and wheezy doctors thinks couple of things are going on and will investigate in the near future for now she have her nasal spray and a blue inhaler so can hashi cause all this and what can be done to limit the reactions ??

[SlowDragon Administrator]

Hashimoto's frequently affects the gut and leads to low stomach acid and then low vitamin levels

Low vitamin levels affect Thyroid hormone working

Poor gut function can lead leaky gut (literally holes in gut wall) this can cause food intolerances. Most common by far is gluten. Dairy is second most common.

According to Izabella Wentz the Thyroid Pharmacist approx 5% with Hashimoto's are coeliac, but over 80% find gluten free diet helps, sometimes significantly. Either due to direct gluten intolerance (no test available) or due to leaky gut and gluten causing molecular mimicry (see Amy Myers link)

Changing to a strictly gluten free diet may help reduce symptoms, help gut heal and slowly lower TPO antibodies

While still eating high gluten diet ask GP for coeliac blood test first or buy test online for under £20, just to rule it out first

Assuming test is negative you can immediately go on strictly gluten free diet

(If test is positive you will need to remain on high gluten diet until endoscopy, maximum 6 weeks wait officially)

Trying gluten free diet for 3-6 months. If no noticeable improvement then reintroduce gluten and see if symptoms get worse

chriskresser.com/the-gluten...

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Non Coeliac Gluten sensitivity (NCGS) and autoimmune disease

ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/296...

The predominance of Hashimoto thyroiditis represents an interesting finding, since it has been indirectly confirmed by an Italian study, showing that autoimmune thyroid disease is a risk factor for the evolution towards NCGS in a group of patients with minimal duodenal inflammation. On these bases, an autoimmune stigma in NCGS is strongly supported

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The obtained results suggest that the gluten-free diet may bring clinical benefits to women with autoimmune thyroid disease

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In summary, whereas it is not yet clear whether a gluten free diet can prevent autoimmune diseases, it is worth mentioning that HT patients with or without CD benefit from a diet low in gluten as far as the progression and the potential disease complications are concerned

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Despite the fact that 5-10% of patients have Celiac disease, in my experience and in the experience of many other physicians, at least 80% + of patients with Hashimoto's who go gluten-free notice a reduction in their symptoms almost immediately.

Lactose intolerance is also very common with Hashimoto's ...especially if gluten intolerant

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Lactose intolerance was diagnosed in 75.9 % of the patients with HT

read.qxmd.com/read/24796930...

These findings show that lactose intolerance significantly increased the need for oral T4 in hypothyroid patients.

[greygoose]

Yes, being hypo can cause post nasal drip, exacerbate allergies, and cause new one. Things should improve as her thyroid hormone levels improve.

[Lucasophia in reply to greygoose]

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[hjh88]

Ooooh yes. Post-nasal drip and allergies are big symptoms for me. Both when I’m under medicated and at times when I think my thyroid is under attack (I presume this is the case but not sure, usually accompanied by swelling and pain in the neck).

As for asthma, I’m diagnosed with this anyway but the PND does exacerbate it terribly. Having mucus build in my upper airways both causes and triggers wheezing for me.

Getting closer to optimal dosing is definitely helping PND and allergy symptoms. I’ve also started taking NAC as I’ve read that it can help with reducing allergic reactions. I believe this relates to improving liver processes but I’m afraid I don’t have a full grasp of the science! Might be worth some research though if getting to optimal doesn’t quite do it.

[Lucasophia in reply to hjh88]

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[Lucasophia in reply to hjh88]

Sorry wat us PND and NAC

[hjh88 in reply to Lucasophia]

PND is post-nasal drip.

NAC is N-Acetyl Cysteine which I believe is an amino acid used for detoxification. Many supplement with it for thyroid problems and like I say there’s some suggestion that it can reduce allergy symptoms in people with hashis

[Lucasophia in reply to hjh88]

Thanks

[Cheekycharlie1981]

If your wife’s thyroid is not treated optimally then allergic symptoms will present a lot worse. I too have a nasal drip and It dose not cause breathlessness. It can cause constant build up of phlegm around the throat and your nose and make you feel sick. I use a nasal spray and cetirizine hydrochloride to reduce the drip and it’s still horrible but the sickness is gone.

I also take quercetin supplements as I have histamine intolerance. This condition can cause lots of symptoms and managing a thyroid diet and a histamine controlled one is difficult.

As others have said vitamin support helps wonders.

[Lucasophia in reply to Cheekycharlie1981]

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[Alanna01]

Yes it does and it makes pre-existing allergies worse, which in turn can cause breathing issues as the airways become irritated or inflamed and start to swell up - remember swelling and inflammation are the bodies response to dealing with any perceived 'threat'.

If I were to stop taking my levo, PND would start up within a couple weeks. I once had PND and sinusitis for 3 years non-stop whilst not sufficiently medicated. True misery. Nothing worked and my dust mite allergy went into overdrive also. In the end I was very lucky and I had immunotherapy for the DM allergy as it was so bad I couldn't go anywhere. Interestingly, the immunotherapist asked me if I was taking my thyroid meds (which I was only taking haphardly at the time)

Also happens if very run down or overdoing activity. It is classic but in my situation I found it gets a bit better taking meds consistently. Although hayfever season can be rough regardless

I have also found using a salt pipe in the evening and morning helpful.

[Lucasophia in reply to Alanna01]

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[Lucasophia in reply to Alanna01]

Wat is a salt pipe

[Alanna01 in reply to Lucasophia]

Its a ceramic or plastic vessel with holes in the bottom and a 'spout' if you like, at the other end. You put himalayan or sea salt in the bottom and then place the spout in your mouth and then inhale through your mouth and exhale through your nose. It (meant to) simulates being in a salt cave and helps clear mucous from your airways.

When I use it, I can feel the mucous moving down. I find it does help. Brought mine from Amazon.

[Lucasophia in reply to Alanna01]

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[chrisbuy63]

I have it and think it is related to low thyrid and low body temperature, when optimal it raises temperature and it clears up , my doc keeps me on a low dose so unless I raise it myself (I do that between visits) I am not optimal and Doc thinks TSH of over 2.5 - 3 is fine.

[Lucasophia]

Same issue 👍

[Mshri]

Same here,two months before I went for doctor for my swalling neck gathering long time couph ( which comes sometimes in a day only) Doctor prescribed me levethyroxine as my TSH 100

I was recommended to take 100 mg per day,

But I felt tightness in my chest area when breathing and night many time mucus coming to my thought, So I reduced dosage my self into 50 mg, even I took medicine for one month, mucus & chest congestion feeling is same, But my neck swalling dissapired, Doctor recommended me to take 2 tests,unfortunately I didn't have money for do those tests,

Again I increased my levethyroxine into 100 mg, almost took for 20 days, Regarding my chest congestion & mucus I went for GP, She gave me PND and medicine for allergy reactions and infected me medicine and asked me to get steam for 15 minutes,

Now my medicine finished but situation is same, GP told me if medicine didn't cure Ur symptoms need to go some more tests hence she suspects may growing rumour or something serious, I'm 33 years old,

If anyone have any idea about this, please leave a reply for me