Results

[Baggieswidow]

Hi

Just got my results after having my T3 Liothyroine increased to 30 from 20 per day my Levothyroxine has stayed at 100 per day. Please can you tell me are these results normal (I have no thyroid) T3 5.4 pmol/L (4.00-6.80) T4 12.9 pmol/L (12.0-22.0) TSH <0.05 min/L (0.3-4.20) (KEW) suppressed.

My Serum vitamin B12 374 ng/L (197-771) Serum folate 5.1 ug/L (3.89-26.8)

HbAlc Levl - IFCC standardised 43 mol/mol (25-41)

HbAlc result: >=42 mmol/mol Hb to 47 mmol/mol Hb

Please can you explain these results and what is the HbAlc result?

Thank you

[silverfox7]

When taking any form of T3 then the only accurate reading is the FT3 one. There is a little room for improvement but I wouldn’t do that at the moment. I would work on getting B12 higher and you can get neurological symptoms under 500 and Folate needs to be higher, at least halfway. I would also suggest getting Vit D and Ferritn tested as the four are recommended as help the Thyroid to work much better but results need to be optimal, not just in range and if you need to supplement any of these it’s often for life-many of us do supplement as thyroid patients lose these levels easily so need the top up. Once you get these optimal then your thyroid readings should also improve.

If you need to take Vit D then you also need to take the co factors K2 and magnesium. By increasing Vit D then our calcium levels will also increase but it’s not good to have too much calcium in our blood This could lead to kidney, gall stones and calcified muscle. The K2 will move the excess calcium into our bones and teeth and the Magnesium locks it in there.

[Baggieswidow in reply to silverfox7]

Thank you for explaining, do the vitamins still work even though I’ve had a total thyroid removal? If this is the case I don’t understand why my GP told my husband my results were normal.

[silverfox7 in reply to Baggieswidow]

Not really thought about that but as the thyroid condition causes the lost I would assume we lose them anyway but probably the most important point is if we lose them we need to supplement as they don’t just help the thyroid but also our general health.

The main issue I would have with your doctors comment of results being normal is that often when they say this they really mean that results fall within the range but often it’s where in the range that matters so it’s quite understandable that you still feel below par but your doctors assumes you must be well medicated and feeling well!

[Lovecake]

HbA1c level is to do with sugar levels averaged over 3 months. (I’m not qualified, so maybe I’ve explained it too simplistically).

Yours is a little high. Your GP or practice nurse should explain this to you.

Ideally your level should be lower as when it gets too high you can become type 2 diabetic.

Why not review your diet and see if you can reduce sugar and carbohydrate intake a little? And maybe add a little exercise if possible.

If you look on diabetes uk website they give masses of help.

Unlike the thyroid , there’s loads of help for diabetes via NHS too. 🤗

[Baggieswidow in reply to Lovecake]

Thank you, I’ve had no follow up to explain the diabetes risk,

[Lovecake in reply to Baggieswidow]

you could always try and reduce some carbs and sugars etc. And then in about 3 months request another blood test to see if the changes have helped. They certainly can moan about you being proactive 🤗

[adin]

How do you feel on this dose, no anxiety, no rush, no palps? You feel a difference between 20 and 30 T3 ?

[Baggieswidow in reply to adin]

I feel a bit better but I’m still tired and struggling to lose weight. I’m having neurological problems and have a constant headache. Also I only have to knock myself and get the most horrendous bruises is this normal?

[adin in reply to Baggieswidow]

A constant headache may indicate that the dose of t3 is too high, I think. You take it all in the morning or you split it? Also, too much t3 can be the cause of weight gain. Berberine and Cucurmin are two natural products which can lower the blood sugar level.

[humanbean]

The HbA1c is showing that you are "pre-diabetic". You can turn things round now, and reduce the risk of developing full-blown diabetes if you change your diet, lose weight if you need to, and cut the sugar and carbs.

An excellent website for people who are diabetic or who are interested in diabetes is this one, and it also has a very good forum :

diabetes.co.uk/

Another very helpful site is the Diet Doctor website (losing weight on their recipes is not compulsory - you can just eat more if you don't want to lose weight!)

dietdoctor.com/diabetes

Good luck.

[Angel_of_the_North]

Your HbA1c indicates that you are on the way to pre-diabetes (or already there) - it has been suggested that around 31 is the level to aim for, although the NHS don't get worried until you reach about 48 and probably need anti-diabetic meds. The thyroid results are fine if you feel well. B12 and folate are too low.