Hair loss

[elvera111]

Hair Loss Check 06 Jun 2018

(Should i ask for my money back as i didnt get a satisfactory answer.)

reporting a Hair Loss Check.

We note that you are taking this test on the advice of Medichecks and I can see that you are taking natural desiccated thyroid and D.H.E.A. Sulphate to help with fatigue.

Your testosterone and sex hormone binding globulin are within the normal range.

Your thyroid stimulating is low whilst your thyroxine is normal. This suggests that your dose of natural desiccated thyroid may be too high. Natural dessicated thyroid can cause quite suppressed TSH levels and there is debate about whether this is due to the combined effect of thyroxine and T3, or whether it indicates overtreatment.

Having very low levels of thyroid stimulating hormone for several years has been associated with the development of osteoporosis. (I have osteoporosis). If your thyroid stimulating hormone always tends to be substantially below the normal range then it may be worth discussing with your GP whether a bone density scan is advised to monitor for the development of osteoporosis. You do not need to worry about the occasional low reading, only if you get repeated very low levels.

(My last dexa scan seemed ok,

Your CRP level is high. This may indicate increased inflammation and/or infection within the body. If you are experiencing pain, fever or other symptoms that suggest infection or inflammation then I recommend that you discuss this further with your GP.

(No pain, fever.)

The type of CRP test that you have had is one which can also indicate future risk of cardiovascular disease. I recommend repeating this test in 6-8 weeks to see whether it remains above 3. If it does then I recommend that you take a more aggressive approach to managing other cardiovascular risk factors such as blood pressure, cholesterol, diet, smoking and exercise levels.

You have high iron stores. This is likely to be due to a high dietary intake of iron, or taking iron supplements. If you are taking supplements I recommend decreasing your intake. To exclude iron overload I recommend an iron deficiency check which will look at your other iron markers and help us to work out whether there may be iron overload.

(Not on any supplements but year before last took iron tablets for a year and after A test was adviced to stop taking them)

It is worth noting that prolonged hypo- or hyperthyroidism can cause diffuse hair loss. I recommend that you see your GP for further advice.

Dr Emil Hodzovic

MBBCh

Based on your Hair Loss Check results we recommend that you have the following test:

- Iron Deficiency Checkwithin 1 month

[SeasideSusie Remembering]

Elvera

They look like very thorough comments to me. What is about them that makes you say you haven't had a satisfactory answer?

[elvera111 in reply to SeasideSusie]

it didnt state what i could do to improve the situation apart from go back to my gp again we all know thyroid conditions can cause hair loss so it was a bit . Could it be high iron levels.

[greygoose]

Blimey! And you paid him to write that? I could have done better than that! lol But I wouldn't have put in the rubbishy bits about low TSH and cholesterol! I think I'd want my money back, too. It's an awful lot of words to say nothing!

[elvera111 in reply to greygoose]

Is it worth another check in 4 weeks time to see if my iron levels have come down,TESTOSTERONE 1.08 nmol/L 0.00 -1.80SEX HORMONE BINDING GLOB 112 nmol/L 22.00 -142.00FREE ANDROGEN INDEX 0.96 Ratio 0.40 -8.00THYROID STIMULATING HORMONE *0.018 mIU/L 0.27 -4.20FREE THYROXINE 19.400 pmol/L 12.00 -22.00 BIOCHEMISTRYInflammation MarkerCRP -HIGH SENSITIVITY * Trying to send rest, hang on, ha ha

[greygoose in reply to elvera111]

I'm not an expert in hair-loss - neither is the guy that wrote that report! lol - but I do know my own hair-loss is more down to low iron more than thyroid. Something no stupid doctor has ever been able to tell me! So, yes, it's worth getting your ferritin tested. And, also your FT3. Because if that's low it won't help.

[elvera111 in reply to greygoose]

crp was 6.13 mg/l 0.00 - 5.0.. ferriten 182 ug/l 13 - 150. in the letter it says

check that cpr does not go above 3. what does that mean. how do you reduce iron levels.

[greygoose in reply to elvera111]

Those are really questions for your doctor! CRP is an inflammation marker. Yours is high indicating that there is a problem somewhere, but it doesn't tell you where. And the high CRP could be responsible for your high ferritin. The two go together. So, it is your doctors job to find what is causing the inflammation. But, of course, they never really do that, do they!

My CRP and ferritin were very high, the one time my doctor deigned to test them! And all he said was 'perfect'. And, I didn't know enough at the time to correct him. But, despite the high result on the blood test, my ferritin was actually low and causing my hair-loss.

I think the key to this might be getting your FT3 tested. Do you have high antibodies?

[elvera111 in reply to elvera111]

ft3 pmol 3.1 - 6.8

[elvera111 in reply to elvera111]

ft3 . 5.4 pmol 3.1 - 6.8

[researcherUK]

The report has read through the results in the same way most doctors do ie checking whether your levels are within the range or not.

The report, however, has failed to connect several markers together to give the bigger picture and the underlying cause.

I wouldn't worry too much about low TSH when on NDT. This could be a falsely suppressed TSH due to the taking of T4 and T3.

The only time I would worry about suppressed TSH is when T4 levels are very high andT3 levels are very low. The bones health rely very much on a good ratio of T4 and T3. T4 helps getting rid of old bones cells and T3 is highly needed to add new layers/cells of bones

Do you have the full results from the iron test? ie did he do the transferrin saturation? This ought to be checked along with your ferritin levels.

Your CRP could be high due to too much iron but it can also be to other things, too.

Outside that high ferritin may be the cause, one way to address this is to cut all sugars and fast carbohydrates, and to consume fresh vegetables, grass-fed animals for proteins, and good quality fats such as olive oil, coconut oil, oily fish, and to avoid all refined and processed foods and oils.

Furthermore, thyroid hormone has a central role in differentiation, development, and maintenance of body homeostasis. It has been suggested in various studies that thyroid hormones regulate ferritin expression.

Your T3 levels will explain lots of things.

1/ Hashimoto's patients are likely to have high ferritin (do you have any thyroid anti-bodies' test results?)

2/ Low T3 cause hair loss and fatigue

3/ High T3 can also cause hair loss and fatigue.

I hope this helps and you'll decide now whether you want your money back or not

[elvera111]

Antibodies 15.1 iu/ml 0 -115 T4 63 nmol/l 59-154 no full results of iron. i have been on the Atckins diet for a year and have lost 12lbs. so it cant be carbs.