Should I take beta blockers

[sarajuarez2912]

Been having my pulse running up some, and I'm noticing that I'm getting it more after hours after using the Methamizole my last TSH level a week ago was 4.76 high normal. Two weeks before that TSH it was 7.79. I'm taking 2.5 Methamizole once a day Monday and Friday. I'm wondering now if I'm going hyper since I have Graves and Hashimoto as was diagnosed back in 2016. When I called the Doctor Friday I told her my heart rate was up, and she said not to worry it's one of those things that happen but I told her it was fast and I was concern, then she told me to take a quarter of the beta blockers. But I'm wondering if the Methamizole is causing my heart to go up or I'm just going hyper.... anyone have any suggestions? Thanks so much

[Rmichelle]

Hi again, you do sound quite anxious but your tsh is higher than a hyper persons tsh😊 but you do not mention about your ft3 or ft4, ?you can still have fast heart beat and palps with hypo aswell but also you have been on a dose change again and when im on a titration dose i suffer for at least 2 to 3 weeks with a rapid heartbeat as my body adjusts to the new dose.

Have you taken your pulse on resting to see how many beats per minuets? Usually mine is between 68 and 75-when hyper i was 125-maybe if you done this it may ease you a little.

I too am hashis and sometimes we can have a hashi swing to hyper but this is temporary but with your tsh above 4 you are not hyPEr😊. You are still overmedicated on carbimazole and you need to adjust to your new dosage and that will take time-nothing happens quickly with the thyroid. Im sure others will correct me if wrong.😊😊 Take care and rest up.xx

[sarajuarez2912 in reply to Rmichelle]

Thanks a lot Rmichelle I was also thinking I might have high blood pressure because I don't think Methamizole works too good with hypo(Hashimoto) since the medication is just for hyper. You mean to tell me you put up with rapid heart beats when you get like that? Lol... I did that all Friday night till I checked it at 4 in the Morning and it was regular beats.. I'm just scared if that's bad for the heart to be running up like that. My resting heart ? I hate checking it in fear my heart will go upper.... just hate living with this sickness. Never been sick of anything till this came around. I don't like taking beta blockers either I remembered I also had a reaction to it, but a quarter ain't bad since it does help, but makes me feel like I'm wearing a shield. The only thing promising I've read is stem cells... but won't be years until they start doing it. A Scientist found a cure late 2015 but how weird the day before her Celebration for finding a cure she gets run over. But they are now looking into using it in the future.

[Rmichelle]

If the beta blockers helped before take them-i don't take any as i try to ignore them and chill out but easier said than done for some people who are more anxious about them. 😊😊

[Rmichelle]

Hey i hope you feel more easier soon-yes itvis horrid being poorly all the time but there is light at the end of the tunnel, you see i was hashis aswell as graves but gp and endo insisted that i was not on a hyper swing from hashis and truly hyper so carbimazole was the rewuired treatment so when i did hit hyPO i reduced my meds myself as endo refused at 1st and wanted me to stay on 5mgs but i wasn't going to let him make me more hyPO, now im on 2.5 it has lowered it back now, you need to let your new dose settle in your body and dont forget to get new bloods in the next 4-6 weeks but if you think after 2 -3 weeks something is not right then get them done again but i think you will be fine soon-if beta blockers help you then dont hestitate to take them, yes im abit hard core i would rather sit it out with my poor pounding heart.

You could always go to gp and get a monitor to read your levels for 1 week-i done this as my readings were always high at the doctors surgery but when i took it home all my blood pressures were normal-white coat syndrome👻.

Hope you get others responding back to your post as this will ease your mind more.xx

[sarajuarez2912 in reply to Rmichelle]

Yes a lot of valuable information you sent me, i really appreciate it Rmichelle and as for my Free 3 and Free 4 I would have to search my paperwork.. cause I just don't know where I placed them.

[Rmichelle in reply to sarajuarez2912]

Dig them out as like greybeard suggested you need the whole picture as tsh alone is useless. Good luck.🌟🌟

[sarajuarez2912 in reply to Rmichelle]

Counted my resting pulse and it's 90

[Greybeard]

I don't think a resting heart rate of 90 is anything to worry about.

You need to get used to looking at tsh t4 and t3 together. When you are hyper I would expect to see tsh below its reference range and t4 and t3 above their reference ranges.

Changes to your hormone levels can and do make many people very anxious. I hope you feel better soon.

[sarajuarez2912]

The 500 magnesium glycinate and maltate are prescription free? I was thinking it was high blood pressure because twice in the Doctors office I was told my blood pressure was high but out the once it went down, and the other the Doctor said she really didn't think I had high blood pressure even do it came out high. Thanks I really appreciate your comment.

[Espisnowwoman]

You take methimazole so do i. Thats for your graves and beta blockers control your racing heart and palps. I also take beta blockers. Those meds are used for hyper/graves.

[Shecallsitabuggy]

Let me ask to make sure I understand, you have Grave’s Disease (hyperthyroidism) and Hashimoto’s (autoimmune hypothyroidism)? The treatment you are taking is purely for the Grave’s disease but your TSH shows that you have been clearly hypothyroid. I agree with Rmichelle that you unquestionably have to know your Free T3 and Free T4. Those numbers are exceptionally important when you are attempting to balance thyroid hormones. I am in the United States and have had great difficulty with my endocrinologists in explaining my thyroid problems. I often get questioned about my exercise routine and my diet. I had a gastric sleeve in 2009 and I have no appetite, and my job (three nights a week at 13 hours or so) requires that I walk nearly 6 miles on those nights. I cannot lose a pound to save my life. When I show that information to a physician, they typically stop asking about my exercise. And clearly I have no room in my stomach (of which most was removed) along with no appetite. They want to put me on an anorectic to decrease my appetite which is laughable. My husband reminds them that he sees what I eat and can confirm that its nearly nothing. I never eat when I work because it makes me sluggish. I am in the United States and have had great difficulty with my multiple endocrinologists in explaining my thyroid problems. My TSH is typically 0.3 to 0.5. That would alone would clearly indicate that I have hyperthyroidism. However, my Free T3 and Free T4 are both in the low normal ranges. So there must be nothing wrong, right? I began a course of Synthroid (which is the go to drug for anyone who appears very hypothyroid, as in well above the normal TSH, which I’m not). There is not a great understanding by most physicians here that my normal may be different than your normal which may be different from the lab’s normal. My lab tests showed undetectable TSH on a conservative dose of Synthroid but my total T4 was through the roof. Interestingly, my Free T4 was still in the mid normal range. The testing done at that time did not give an accurate Free T3; however, my estimated Free T3 was still in the low normal range. Quite perplexing, don’t you think? I have had to go out of the United States medical system to treat myself as I have done extensive research on this subject. I am also a bachelors prepared registered nurse and have quite a bit of experience from my lifetime. There was a time several years ago when I saw a physician who increased my T3 for weight loss and I passed out at work due to thyrotoxicosis, which we all know is quite dangerous and can be seen in diseases like Grave’s. I would highly suggest that you have other lab tests performed, such as your thyroid peroxidase and thyroid binding hormone. These tests will actually show if you are converting T4 to T3 (the active hormone), As well as your binding of T3 to the appropriate cell receptors rather than sticking to the thyroid binding hormone. And of course you should ask for tests showing your Free T3 and Free T4 to determine if your medication schedule is appropriate. Here is a list of symptoms for hyperthyroidism:

fatigue or muscle weakness

hand tremors

mood swings

nervousness or anxiety

rapid heartbeat

heart palpitations or irregular heartbeat

skin dryness

trouble sleeping

weight loss

increased frequency of bowel movements

light periods or skipping periods

Beta blockers are excellent for treating high blood pressure and increased heart rate. If the beta blockers work for you, continue to take them. Are you on a daily dose? That would be ideal. The best I’ve ever taken is atenolol. Please feel free to reach out to me. The drug you take for your thyroid problems is rarely prescribed in the United States. Here is a website that might be helpful:

medicinenet.com/methimazole...

Good luck, love. I hope you feel better soon. And just a tidbit of information, the normal heart rate for adults is 60-100. Palpitations, though are not considered normal and you should check with your physician.

[Sedum]

I would suggest you find info from Dr Malcolm Kendrick either from his book Doctoring Data or on YouTube in conversation with Dr Mercola on this. A down to earth British GP who looks at the data/side effects/benefits. What the drug actually does in your body. Light easy to understand presentation with humour.