Blood Results - Hypothyroid? ?

[Caroline369]

So got blood test results back today., I am female aged 40. I gave hypo symptoms but GP says results noral.

TSH 1.97 (0.27 - 4.2)

T4 13.6 (12 - 22)

Folate 12.6 (3.9 - 26.8)

Haemaglobin 13 (12 -17)

Ferritin 22 (13 - 150)

% Saturation 26.2% (30 - 40)

Is iron supplementation enough to fix symptoms as ferritin and saturation low ?

[Marz]

Ummm - you do not mention the dose you are taking. No FT3 result or Anti-bodies.

You need to deal with the LOW Ferritin.

No B12 or VitD result ....

thyroiduk.org

[Caroline369 in reply to Marz]

Hi Marz, thanks for your reply. I have not been diagnosed as hypothyroid so not on meds but I have very bad fatigue and brain fog and coldness as main systems plus others.

My B12 was 694.

Vit D was not tested.

[Marz in reply to Caroline369]

OK so you need those anti-bodies tested so you can rule out Hashimotos. I was diagnosed with HIGH anti-bodies and in range FT4 - FT3 and TSH. Scan revealed nodes. I live in Crete so things are slightly easier here !

vitamindcouncil.org

grassrootshealth.net

The above links take you to VitD sites - important to be tested. Are you supplementing B12 ? No FT3 test - which in your case is important as the FT4 is low in range ....

[Caroline369 in reply to Marz]

Thanks Maz , will get those tests done though will have to pay private using Medichecks. Will be going back to GP to get iron tablets again. They stopped them when my ferritin was 88 (I have been on iron for years) and if I stop my ferritin drops . New Dr said as I was in range to stop and within 6 months I am now at 22. I told him this would happen !

[Angel_of_the_North]

It could just be iron deficiency. Is your B12 good? However, most people would have a much higher TSH with free T4 that low in range so you might have secondary or central hypothyroidism (where TSH never really rises). Doctors seem to think it is rare, but I suspect that is because they just dismiss it). You could try to get a referral to a sympathetic endo on the TUK list - GPs don't deal with central or secondary hypo.

[Caroline369 in reply to Angel_of_the_North]

Thanks Angel of the North, yes my B12 was good 694. I am in Northern Ireland so I think no recommended Endos on the list thinking of Dr Peatfield if I get more bloods done. I guess it could just be low ferritin but until I have my bloods done for T3 rT3 and antibodies then I wont know how to proceed. Don't know if it makes a difference but I have Raynauds also.

[Caroline369]

Thank You really fed up for your helpful reply. I will ask my GP again to see if he will do the antibodies test but he told me NHS won't do T3. But other tests I think I will have to use Medichecks. I find with my brain fog all the details of tsh, t3 t4 etc hard to sink in. I used to be intelligent! ! I said above I have Raynauds and I also had silicone breast implants for 8 years which I had removed 9 months ago and felt they may have been making me ill too but know the toxins in implants can affect endocrine functions too. I feel so overwhelmed with it all . I also have started to have pruney fingers when not wet. Woder is this linked ?? Yes I have all stainless steel saucepans and no non stick. I am up to date with the dangers of aluminium and Teflon.

[Caroline369]

Updated to add my haemoglobin which was 13 (12 - 17).

[Caroline369]

Thank you, I'm not on Facebook but will look into magnesium. Breast implants are so toxic plus I had a rupture also . Aw if only I could turn back time I would NEVER have gotten them. I will see what my GP says about testing fot T3 when I see him again. Thanks again.

[helvella Administrator Thyroid UK]

As far as I am concerned, facebook's own avid collection of data makes it unsafe.

[Caroline369]

So I am going to make appointment for GP for tomorrow for the very least to get iron tablets to get my ferritin up. What rational should I use to get further tests? Do I say could he test for antibodies to rule out hasimotoes? And with regards to my T4 being on the low side what other tests should I ask him to do and for what reason ? Do I need a test to rule out central or secondary hypothyroidism? Sorry I am trying to summarise what you all have said so I can ask my GP for x,y&z for the following reasons. Sorry if I sound stupid.

[Caroline369]

Thank you so much ReallyFedUp, yes I have seen groups, and I have seen a holistic practicioner for an adrenal tonic and bentonite clay mix of something for detox. But my low energy levels mean I am binging on chocolate and biscuits so that is counter productive. I used to have loads of motivation years ago to try different exercises, diet regimes but now no motivation to do anything, even house work of getting to work is a chore. But thanks again for your help and I wil defo check out magnesium.

[helvella Administrator Thyroid UK]

There are many, many alternatives to facebook (and Yahoo). Right here, HealthUnlocked is one. MeWe ( mewe.com/ ) is another. There are still Usenet groups which existed before the World Wide Web even existed and are in regular use.

For people who can manage even a very small support function and modest funds, it is perfectly possible to run a fairly comprehensive site, including forums, without needing to involve facebook.

It doesn't matter two hoots what your privacy settings are - facebook have access to everything. Including, for example, if I as someone not registered with them, happen to visit one of their pages. They collect that and try to associate every one of my visits - which I do try hard to avoid.

The fact that so many people supinely say, and accept, "there is no alternative" is promulgation of facebook's agenda. They WANT everyone to believe that. Pretty much every one us has the option to avoid facebook. If you wish to trade information about you for access to some group or other, that is your choice. Just don't say that it isn't a choice.

The fact that facebook have seen it necessary to buy up possible competition shows quite clearly that the company knows there are alternatives. I point out Instagram and Whatsapp as obvious examples bought up by facebook.

[Caroline369]

Yes thd sugar and cancer stuff really scares me but at times my energy is so low . I am starting a detox on Sunday , got a book called Super Blend Me where it's healthy nutribullet blends instead of juicing with good fats, proteins etc. So I am prepared for 3 - 4 days of withdrawal. But I so need to do it. I hope to do the 21 day plan. Any info and guidance relating to the silicone would be massively appreciated. Thank you ReallyFedUp.

[SlowDragon Administrator]

Prune fingers can be a hypo symptom

For full Thyroid evaluation TSH, FT4, TT4, FT3 plus TPO and TG thyroid antibodies. Plus vitamin D, folate, ferritin and B12.

Essential to test thyroid antibodies plus vitamins

Private tests are available

thyroiduk.org.uk/tuk/testin...

Medichecks Thyroid plus ultra vitamin or Blue Horizon Thyroid plus eleven are the most popular choice. DIY finger prick test or option to pay extra for private blood draw. Both companies often have money off offers.

All thyroid tests should ideally be done as early as possible in morning and fasting. This gives highest TSH and most consistent results. (Patient to patient tip, GP will be unaware)

If antibodies are high this is Hashimoto's, (also known by medics here in UK more commonly as autoimmune thyroid disease).

About 90% of all hypothyroidism in Uk is due to Hashimoto's

Or cheapest test for just vitamin D is vitamindtest.org.uk £28 postal kit

Essential to test vitamin D, folate, ferritin and B12. Always get actual results and ranges. Post results when you have them, members can advise

Link about thyroid blood tests

thyroiduk.org/tuk/testing/t...

Link about antibodies and Hashimoto's

thyroiduk.org.uk/tuk/about_...

thyroiduk.org.uk/tuk/about_...

List of hypothyroid symptoms

thyroiduk.org/tuk/about_the...

[Caroline369 in reply to SlowDragon]

Thanks so much SlowDragon. Your post is very helpful. I actually ladt night ordered the Thyroid test from Medichecks it covers TSH, T4, FT4 and T3 plus antibodies. My ferritin, folate and B12 were done last week, I have posted the results above. Just Vit D outstanding. I will wait to see what the Medichecks test reveals but I am defo checking out magnesium.

[Caroline369]

Thank you for searching for me, that's very kind. No I had not intended to sue, I could not prove they have made me sick. Mine weren't the PIP ones that were in the news but all implants are not safe even saline as they can contain mould and the saline shell is made of silicone. Silicone when in the body bleeds so always a steady supply of toxins . Mine were gummy bear ones which apparently were a gooey mess on the ruptured side. So much for staying solid.

[Caroline369]

Thanks ReallyFedUp I was going down town tomorrow to get magnesium citrate but will look for and buy the glycinate. Good job you posted. Yes I will Google for those 2 websites. Thanks again.

[Caroline369]

So got my Medichecks results back. My TSH is higher 3.01 than my GP's result of 1.97. Both bloods taken first thing and fasting. Anyhow how do these look in conjuti on with my low ferritin on my first post ? I see I have low free thyroxine. What does that mean?

ENDOCRINOLOGY

Thyroid Function

THYROID STIMULATING HORMONE

3.01 mIU/L 0.27 - 4.20

FREE THYROXINE

*11.6 pmol/L 12.00 - 22.00

TOTAL THYROXINE(T4)

70.0 nmol/L 59.00 - 154.00

FREE T3

4.15 pmol/L 3.10 - 6.80

THYROGLOBULIN ANTIBODY

<10 IU/mL 0.00 - 115.00

THYROID PEROXIDASE ANTIBODIES

<9.0 IU/mL 0.00 - 34.00