Could someone take a look at this link for me before I order as I don't want to make a mistake... I'd be grateful of all advice.Thanks in advance
Allywales
Could someone take a look at this link for me before I order as I don't want to make a mistake... I'd be grateful of all advice.Thanks in advance
Allywales
Those ampoules are the right type of B12,.( Hydroxocobalamin ) They are the make ( Hevert) that I used when I first started to self inject . I changed to the make called Panpharma. or Pascoe because they come in 1 ml ampoules , unlike Hevert which come in 2ml ampoules. I prefer to inject -1 ml . Also the lesser volume is better if you inject subcutaneously.
But Hevert are excellent , and will work very well . Hevert is excellent . I will send you some information privately , 👍
Just noticed that I already sent you the information 22 days ago , but I will send it again .
How to obtain B12 ampoules ( for U.K. patients)
As B12 ampoules for injection are strictly prescription items in U.K., we are forced to obtain them from reliable German online pharmacies. These pharmacies are strictly controlled by the German health authorities . In Germany , the ampoules are an over the counter item , requiring no prescription.
These are the different makes of B12 depot ( Hydroxocobalamin) ampoules that are obtainable
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PANPHARMA ( formerly Rotexmedica) , 1mg x 1ml ampoules
Reference no. 16199653 , in packets of 10 . These are the most popular ampoules.
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HEVERT 1mg x 2ml B12 depot ampoules
Packets of 10 ref no. 06078368
HEVERT 1mg x 2ml B12 depot ampoules
10x10packets( 100 ampoules) ref no. 06078380
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PASCOE. 1.5 mg x 1ml B12 depot ampoules packet of 10 ref no 07568672
PASCOE 1.5x 1ml B12 depot ampoules , 10 x 10 packets ( 100 ampoules ) ref.no.07568695
It is advantageous to order 10 packs of Pascoe (100 ampoules ) as this means that the cost of 1 packet is halved . But bear in mind that the “ use by” date will be about 2 years . …….. ————————————————————————
These companies also make B12 Cynocobalamin ampoules. ( they are called just B12) If you want Hydroxocobalamin you need B12 DEPOT .
The following pharmacy sites are in German so you may need to use Google Chrome for translation .
versandapo.de sell all 3 brands , but of late keep running out of Panpharma . When out of stock ,there is an opportunity to leave your email address , and they will let you know when they are back in stock . Then you need to order quickly .
Best to register , then you can take advantage of their points system.
Using Google Chrome will translate for you .
It is easiest to use the reference numbers to order .But always check that you are ordering exactly what you want , as the pharmacies cannot take back any items because they don’t know how they have been handled (eg been in great heat , frozen etc ) they
When filling in your address you MUST FIRST OF ALL, ENTER YOUR COUNTRY ( on the drop down list ) UNITED KINGDOM OR VEREINIGTES KÖNIGREICH ./ GROSS BRITTANIEN . This is important with all the German online pharmacies , otherwise your postal code and the rest of your address cannot be recognised , and you will not be able to proceed . …….
Payment by card , PayPal or Bank Transfer .
Also the following
apohealth.de Obtainable in English - Click on Union Jack for English .
apominga.de click Union Jack bottom right on my device for English.
apotheke-marienbrunn.de ( also deliver to Australia and New Zealand .)
amazon.de sell Pascoe and Hevert . BUT NOT PANPHARMA . You can only use the brand names to search NOT the reference numbers when ordering from amazon.de .
amazon.de is available in English . Various different online pharmacies sell through amazon.de You will only be able buy from pharmacies which deliver to U.K.
Remember Hydroxocobalamin is called B12 DEPOT . Cynocobalamin is called B12
How to obtain B12 ampoules ( for U.K. patients)
As B12 ampoules for injection are strictly prescription items in U.K., we are forced to obtain them from reliable German online pharmacies. These pharmacies are strictly controlled by the German health authorities . In Germany , the ampoules are an over the counter item , requiring no prescription.
These are the different makes of B12 depot ( Hydroxocobalamin) ampoules that are obtainable
————————————————————————
PANPHARMA ( formerly Rotexmedica) , 1mg x 1ml ampoules
Reference no. 16199653 , in packets of 10 . These are the most popular ampoules.
————————————————————————
HEVERT 1mg x 2ml B12 depot ampoules
Packets of 10 ref no. 06078368
HEVERT 1mg x 2ml B12 depot ampoules
10x10packets( 100 ampoules) ref no. 06078380
————————————————————————
PASCOE. 1.5 mg x 1ml B12 depot ampoules packet of 10 ref no 07568672
PASCOE 1.5x 1ml B12 depot ampoules , 10 x 10 packets ( 100 ampoules ) ref.no.07568695
It is advantageous to order 10 packs of Pascoe (100 ampoules ) as this means that the cost of 1 packet is halved . But bear in mind that the “ use by” date will be about 2 years . …….. ————————————————————————
These companies also make B12 Cynocobalamin ampoules. ( they are called just B12) If you want Hydroxocobalamin you need B12 DEPOT .
The following pharmacy sites are in German so you may need to use Google Chrome for translation .
versandapo.de sell all 3 brands , but of late keep running out of Panpharma . When out of stock ,there is an opportunity to leave your email address , and they will let you know when they are back in stock . Then you need to order quickly .
Best to register , then you can take advantage of their points system.
Using Google Chrome will translate for you .
It is easiest to use the reference numbers to order .But always check that you are ordering exactly what you want , as the pharmacies cannot take back any items because they don’t know how they have been handled (eg been in great heat , frozen etc ) they
When filling in your address you MUST FIRST OF ALL, ENTER YOUR COUNTRY ( on the drop down list ) UNITED KINGDOM OR VEREINIGTES KÖNIGREICH ./ GROSS BRITTANIEN . This is important with all the German online pharmacies , otherwise your postal code and the rest of your address cannot be recognised , and you will not be able to proceed . ……. Then you will start pulling your hair out ! ( we don’t want that )
Payment by card , PayPal or Bank Transfer .
Also the following
apohealth.de Obtainable in English - Click on Union Jack for English .
apominga.de click Union Jack bottom right on my device for English.
apotheke-marienbrunn.de ( also deliver to Australia and New Zealand .)
amazon.de sell Pascoe and Hevert . BUT NOT PANPHARMA . You can only use the brand names to search NOT the reference numbers when ordering from amazon.de .
amazon.de is available in English . Various different online pharmacies sell through amazon.de You will only be able buy from pharmacies which deliver to U.K.
Remember Hydroxocobalamin is called B12 DEPOT . Cynocobalamin is called B12
Just looked up artzneiprivat.de and they don’t seem to deliver to U.K.
Out of interest , did you manage to order from artzneiprivat.de ? If you did , I will add it to my list of German online pharmacies that deliver to U.K. . On their site , U.K. is not listed as a country they deliver to . Thanks .
They are fine. They are 2ml of B12 fluid though. That's a lot if you are SI regularly like EOD.
For Subcu SI only - I would kindly suggest that you split the 2ml dose into two 1ml syringes - and do two injections on opposite sides of your tummy. I found that 2mls in one place got me bruising and made the area tender sometimes. But thats just me.
Hi Treesong2023, I'm lucky enough to work with nurses in my job and a HCSW but one nurse doesn't like the idea of SC B12 for some reason. One nurse SC herself and she stated no problems with this process. I will IM with the 2ml and then do SC when I get over my fear of handling needles. You might laugh but I purchased cheap needles to practice on a whole lemon at home. Drawing water up and injecting it into the lemon. I'm a bit less nervous after doing this, as daft as it sounds.
Regards
Allywales
That sounds like a clever thing to do...! When i do my SC. as i press the hypo in...I say outloud.....Better! As in getting better.
As I was also rather worried about it, its a natural thing. Hope all goes well.
Injecting subcut is a lot less daunting and definitely far less painful..uses a much smaller needle...therefore it would make sense to inject subcut if you are nervous of injecting This is what I do ..daily.. using a 30g half inch needle..virtually painless
They used to use oranges when I learnt to give injections to my husband.My GP surgery does not give out B12 to self administer because the nurses training for B12 injections was that it should only be given as an IM injection. The reason they told me was that because it is injected into the muscle it means the absorption is more efficient and much quicker ( in as little as an hour) . Doses given by SC are much slower 24 hours or more and the amount of the dose absorbed may not be as efficient.
But I assume that is why people whom do SC injections may also need to inject more regularly.